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JustRalph
09-22-2008, 02:58 AM
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=577161&postcount=54

This could go deep. It even includes a guy who had a Kentucky Derby Horse, he is the head honcho in this deeply layered conspiracy.

Funny Cide kicked his horses ass........ :lol: Domestic Dispute was the horse.


I hope the sheer complicated nature of this doesn't stop the mainstream media from covering it. I will be forwarding a letter to have the justice department look into it. :lol:

September 22, 2008

Hope, Change, & Lies: Orchestrated "Grassroots" Smear Campaigns & the People That Run Them
Extensive research was conducted by the Jawa Report to determine the source of smears directed toward Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin. Those smears included false allegations that she belonged to a secessionist political party and that she has radical anti-American views.

Our research suggests that a subdivision of one of the largest public relations firms in the world most likely started and promulgated rumors about Sarah Palin that were known to be false. These rumors were spread in a surreptitious manner to avoid exposure.

It is also likely that the PR firm was paid by outside sources to run the smear campaign. While not conclusive, evidence suggests a link to the Barack Obama campaign. Namely:

Evidence suggests that a YouTube video with false claims about Palin was uploaded and promoted by members of a professional PR firm.
The family that runs the PR firm has extensive ties to the Democratic Party, the netroots, and are staunch Obama supporters.
Evidence suggests that the firm engaged in a concerted effort to distribute the video in such a way that it would appear to have gone viral on its own. Yet this effort took place on company time.
Evidence suggests that these distribution efforts included actions by at least one employee of the firm who is unconnected with the family running the company.
The voice-over artist used in this supposedly amateur video is a professional.
This same voice-over artist has worked extensively with David Axelrod's firm, which has a history of engaging in phony grassroots efforts, otherwise known as "astroturfing."
David Axelrod is Barack Obama's chief media strategist.
The same voice-over artist has worked directly for the Barack Obama campaign.
This suggests that false rumors and outright lies about Sarah Palin and John McCain being spread on the internet are being orchestrated by political partisans and are not an organic grassroots phenomenon led by the left wing fringe. Our findings follow.

WHO PRODUCED THE VIDEO?

[UPDATE: Within 1 hour of posting, "eswinner" has removed all videos from YouTube and began removing any traces of his activities. But we have the video and all relevant websites backed up.

If "eswinner" isn't Ethan Winner of the Publicis Groupe, then why did "eswinner" yank the video so quickly? Or if this was just an innocent homemade ad, then what does he have to hide? You'd think he'd want more attention for it.

I uploaded it to my YouTube acount from the original unwatermarked Google version (see below for explanation) and that is the version you now see embedded below. Here's an image that show's he had the videos in question just moments ago. Click for bigger. I'll be able to provide a backup of the original YouTube page in the morning. For now, this will have to do.

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Who is behind this video against Sarah Palin? It alleges:

Sarah Palin was a member of an Anti-American separatist organization.
It claims that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party and cites The New York Times for that source. Then it quotes the founder of that Party with some pretty outrageous statements.
But here's what FactCheck.org says about that:

[Sarah Palin] was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She’s been registered as a Republican since May 1982.
And The New York Times was forced to retract their earlier claim that Palin was a member of the party, blaming the error on the party's chair. That retraction was published Sept. 3rd, 8 days before the video was first made publicly available.
Sarah Palin wasn't even physically at the party's convention. The clip you see is part of Palin's videotaped welcome for the convention's opening in which she gives some general remarks about the need for party competition and then tries to draw some common ground on the need to reel in government spending. Hardly evidence of extremism or anti-American sentiment.

In our opinion the Palin smear video appears professionally produced. Especially revealing is the voice over, which has a ring of familiarity to it and which also sounds professional.

If we are correct, that means that someone paid for the ad and for the talent behind it. Yet no one identifies themselves as being behind the video.

Using techniques that we've used in the past to find the identity of online terrorist supporters, the Jawa team went to work trying to figure out who was behind what appeared, in our opinion, to be a professionally orchestrated smear campaign aimed at Sarah Palin with the ultimate goal of electing Barack Obama.

VIOLATION OF FEC RULES?

Federal election law requires that a disclaimer from those paying for campaign ads, "must appear on any "electioneering communication" and on any public communication by any person that expressly advocates the election or defeat of a clearly identified candidate or solicits funds in connection with a federal election." Even when the ad is not paid for nor coordinated with the candidates election committee, "the disclaimer notice must identify who paid for the message, state that it was not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee and list the permanent street address, telephone number or World Wide Web address of the person who paid for the communication."

No such disclaimer appears on the ad in question. However, "General public political advertising does not include Internet ads, except for communications placed for a fee on another person’s web site." It is not clear to us whether a video is considered an "internet ad" or if the wording only meant to include banner ads or other more common forms of internet advertising.

All of the web only video ads that we could find produced by the Obama campaign carried the disclosure or some other clearly identifiable notice that they were responsible for its content.

It would appear that the ad, while professionally produced, was put on YouTube and then spread in such a way as to make it seem like amateurs had made it and spread it. We can't help but wonder if the missing disclaimer on the video was an intentional exploitation of a loophole meant to distance the people behind the ad from its outright lies?

We also can't help but wonder if maybe those who produced the ad believed that the lack of disclaimer constituted an FEC violation? Which would be an alternative explanation for why they did not wish to be connected to it.

Beyond the disclaimer, though, our reading of FEC regulations suggests that political campaign and 527 groups, such as Moveon.org, are required to report money spent on advertising opposing a candidate for public office. We can find no exception for advertising intended for web only campaigns.

We assume that if some group paid for the production of the video, that it would be reported to the FEC. Not doing so, we believe, would constitute a breach of federal campaign law.

PR FIRM BEHIND THE VIDEO?

The YouTube poster who uploaded the video did so under the account name "eswinner". He names his channel "AGroupofConcernedAmericans". The goal of his channel, says "eswinner", is:

Offering a fair and unbiased view towards life and politics...
I try to give an unbiased account of all things American.

The video was uploaded four times under the "eswinner" account, using different titles for each video. The video was also uploaded to Google Video on the same day and with the same title.
A Google search of other people using the nickname or account name “eswinner” reveals that someone very interested in yachts also goes by that name. There is, for example, a Picasa page under the account name “eswinner”. I won't link to that page because it also has pictures of his family, but I will include a screenshot here.

~ please go to the link for much much more info~ **including the stupidity of these guys and their user names

ArlJim78
09-22-2008, 10:02 AM
this was the story I mentioned last night that was supposed to be big.

if you read the whole thing (it takes some time) you get a sense of how truly slimey and dirty this campaign is. Here is the link to the guy the headed up the investigation. http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php

this is what is meant by the politics of hope?
after you read how they slimed Palin, recall some of the rhetoric from Obamas convention speech.

"It's a promise that says each of us has the freedom to make of our own lives what we will, but that we also have the obligation to treat each other with dignity and respect".

"Because one of the things that we have to change in our politics is the idea that people cannot disagree without challenging each other's character and patriotism"

"Because if you don't have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters. If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from."

what a fraud, using the same dirty campaign tactics that got him elected twice in Illinois.

TurfRuler
09-22-2008, 11:01 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/opinion/22observer.html?partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss

It was not that long ago that black people in the Deep South could be beaten or killed for seeking the right to vote, talking back to the wrong white man or failing to give way on the sidewalk. People of color who violated these and other proscriptions could be designated “uppity ******s” and subjected to acts of violence and intimidation that were meant to dissuade others from following their examples…..
In the Old South, black men and women who were competent, confident speakers on matters of importance were termed “disrespectful,” the implication being that all good Negroes bowed, scraped, grinned and deferred to their white betters.
In what is probably a harbinger of things to come, the McCain campaign has already run a commercial that carries a similar intimation, accusing Mr. Obama of being “disrespectful” to Sarah Palin. The argument is muted, but its racial antecedents are very clear.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/opinion/21kristof.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin

Here’s a sad monument to the sleaziness of this presidential campaign: Almost one-third of voters “know” that Barack Obama is a Muslim or believe that he could be.

In short, the political campaign to transform Mr. Obama into a Muslim is succeeding. The real loser as that happens isn’t just Mr. Obama, but our entire political process.
A Pew Research Center survey released a few days ago found that only half of Americans correctly know that Mr. Obama is a Christian. Meanwhile, 13 percent of registered voters say that he is a Muslim, compared with 12 percent in June and 10 percent in March.

Tom
09-22-2008, 11:52 AM
Rolling out the excuses early this time, huh?

ArlJim78
09-22-2008, 12:04 PM
the argument is already over and won when they start trotting out the racist stuff. you might as well just wave a white flag because it means you've emptied your holster of ideas and there is nothing left.

bigmack
09-22-2008, 12:26 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/opinion/22observer.html?partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss

It was not that long ago that black people in the Deep South could be beaten or killed for seeking the right to vote,
The author of that piece also wrote last year that blacks don't get his "blackness".

The claim that Mr. Obama has not lived the typical African-American life is closer to the nub of what bothers his black traditionalist critics. Their complaint goes right back to the race police of the 1960s who decreed that the only authentic black experience was one that featured hardship and crushing encounters with racism, preferably with an urban American backdrop.

At bottom, the hue and cry over Barack Obama’s identity stems from a failure by black traditionalists to recognize multiracial versions of themselves. Soon enough, perhaps by year’s end, however, the Obama story, which seems so exotic to so many people now, will have found its place among all the other stories of the sprawling black diaspora.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/11/opinion/11sun3.html

Poor Barack. He's so misunderstood. :D

HUSKER55
09-22-2008, 12:32 PM
I don't think people are afraid of his religon. What they don't forget and should not forget is the GOD DAMN AMERICA church he belonged to for upteen years.

Or maybe it is the fact that Michell is not proud to be an American.

A lot of people equate that as Muslim. Good, bad, right or wrong.

bigmack
09-22-2008, 12:39 PM
A lot of people equate that as Muslim. Good, bad, right or wrong.
You're kidding, right?

boxcar
09-22-2008, 12:39 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/opinion/22observer.html?partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss

It was not that long ago that black people in the Deep South could be beaten or killed for seeking the right to vote, talking back to the wrong white man or failing to give way on the sidewalk. People of color who violated these and other proscriptions could be designated “uppity ******s” and subjected to acts of violence and intimidation that were meant to dissuade others from following their examples…..
In the Old South, black men and women who were competent, confident speakers on matters of importance were termed “disrespectful,” the implication being that all good Negroes bowed, scraped, grinned and deferred to their white betters.
In what is probably a harbinger of things to come, the McCain campaign has already run a commercial that carries a similar intimation, accusing Mr. Obama of being “disrespectful” to Sarah Palin. The argument is muted, but its racial antecedents are very clear.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/opinion/21kristof.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin

Here’s a sad monument to the sleaziness of this presidential campaign: Almost one-third of voters “know” that Barack Obama is a Muslim or believe that he could be.

In short, the political campaign to transform Mr. Obama into a Muslim is succeeding. The real loser as that happens isn’t just Mr. Obama, but our entire political process.
A Pew Research Center survey released a few days ago found that only half of Americans correctly know that Mr. Obama is a Christian. Meanwhile, 13 percent of registered voters say that he is a Muslim, compared with 12 percent in June and 10 percent in March.

So let me see if I have this right, TR: When a white person disagrees with NoBam's politics, he/she is a racist. Correcto? But a black person can say anything he/she wants about some white person and we don't dare accuse him of being "disrespectful", let alone a racist!? Therefore, disrespectfulness and racism is strictly a white race problem? It's simply not possible for blacks to manifest this kind of behavior?

Boxcar

ElKabong
09-22-2008, 01:07 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/opinion/22observer.html?partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss

It was not that long ago that black people in the Deep South could be beaten or killed for seeking the right to vote, talking back to the wrong white man or failing to give way on the sidewalk.


It was even more recent when OJ Simpson's defense team used one racial slur by a detective 20 years prior as an out for his double murder.

That nonsense doesn't work anymore.

It's 2008. One party seems to have moved on (pardon the pun), the other uses long ago history as a final crutch when defeated on an issue.