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highnote
08-19-2008, 08:11 PM
Here's an interesting thought presented in a letter from filmmaker Michael Moore:

Dear Caroline,

We've never met, so I hope you don't find this letter too presumptuous or inappropriate. As its contents involve the public's business, I am sending this to you via the public on the Internet. I knew your brother John. He was a great guy, and I know he would've had a ball during this thrilling and historic election year. We all miss him dearly.

Barack Obama selected you to head up his search for a vice presidential candidate. It appears we may be just days (hours?) away from learning who that choice will be.

The media is reporting that Senator Obama has narrowed his alternatives to three men: Joe Biden, Evan Bayh and Tim Kaine. They're all decent fellows, but they are far from the core of what the Obama campaign has been about: Change. Real change. Out with the old. And don't invade countries that pose no threat to us.

Senators Biden and Bayh voted for that invasion and that war, the war Barack ran against, the war Barack reminded us was the big difference between him and Senator Clinton because she voted for the war and he spoke out against it while running for Senate (a brave and bold thing to do back in 2002).

For Obama to place either of these senators on the ticket would be a huge blow to the millions that chose him in the primaries over Hillary. He will undercut one of the strongest advantages he has over the Hundred-Year War senator, Mr. McCain. By anointing a VP who did what McCain did in throwing us into this war, Mr. Obama will lose the moral high ground in the debates.

As for Governor Kaine of Virginia, his big problem is, well, Obama's big problem -- who is he? The toughest thing Barack has had to overcome -- and it will continue to be his biggest obstacle -- is that too many of the voters simply don't know him well enough to vote for him. The fact that Obama is new to the scene is both one of his most attractive qualities AND his biggest drawback. Too many Americans, who on the surface seem to like Barack Obama, just don't feel comfortable voting for someone who hasn't been on the national scene very long. It's a comfort level thing, and it may be just what keeps Obama from winning in November ("I'd rather vote for the devil I know than the devil I don't know").

What Obama needs is a vice presidential candidate who is NOT a professional politician, but someone who is well-known and beloved by people across the political spectrum; someone who, like Obama, spoke out against the war; someone who has a good and generous heart, who will be cheered by the rest of the world; someone whom we've known and loved and admired all our lives and who has dedicated her life to public service and to the greater good for all.

That person, Caroline, is you.

I cannot think of a more winning ticket than one that reads: "OBAMA-KENNEDY."

Caroline, I know that nominating yourself is the furthest idea from your mind and not consistent with who you are, but there would be some poetic justice to such an action. Just think, eight years after the last head of a vice presidential search team looked far and wide for a VP -- and then picked himself (a move topped only by his hubris to then lead the country to near ruin while in office) -- along comes Caroline Kennedy to return the favor with far different results, a vice president who helps restore America to its goodness and greatness.

Caroline, you are one of the most beloved and respected women in this country, and you have been so admired throughout your life. You chose a life outside of politics, to work for charities and schools, to write and lecture, to raise a wonderful family. But you did not choose to lead a private life. You have traveled the world and met with its leaders, giving you much experience on the world stage, a stage you have been on since you were a little girl.

The nation has, remarkably (considering our fascination with celebrity), left you alone and let you live your life in peace. (It's like, long ago, we all collectively agreed that, with her father tragically gone, a man who died because he wanted to serve his country, we would look out for her, we would wish for her to be happy and well, and we would have her back. But we would let her be.)

Now, I am breaking this unwritten code and asking you to come forward and help us in our hour of need. So many families are hurting, losing their homes, going bankrupt with health care bills, seeing their public schools in shambles and living with this war without end. This is a historic year for women, from Hillary's candidacy to the numerous women running for the House and Senate. This is the year that a woman should be on the Democratic ticket. This is the year that both names on that ticket should be people OUTSIDE the party machine. This is the year millions of independents and, yes, millions of Republicans are looking for something new and fresh and bold (and you are the Kennedy Republicans would vote for!).

This is the moment, Caroline. Seize it! And Barack, if you're reading this, you probably know that she is far too humble and decent to nominate herself. So step up and surprise us again. Step up and be different than every politician we have witnessed in our lifetime. Keep the passion burning amongst the young people and others who have been energized by your unexpected, unpredicted, against-all-odds candidacy that has ignited and inspired a nation. Do it for all those reasons. Make Caroline Kennedy your VP. "Obama-Kennedy." Wow, does that sound so cool.

Caroline, thanks for letting me intrude on your life. How wonderful it will be to have a vice president who will respect the Constitution, who will support (instead of control) her president, who will never let her staff out a CIA agent, and who will never tell her country that she is "currently residing in an undisclosed location."

Say it one more time: "OBAMA-KENNEDY." A move like that might send a message to the country that the Democrats would actually like to win an election for once.

Yours,
Michael Moore

prospector
08-19-2008, 09:03 PM
Michael Moore.....filmmaker??

highnote
08-19-2008, 09:33 PM
Michael Moore.....filmmaker??


I didn't say he was a good one. I just said he was one. :D

In any case, Kennedy for VP is an interesting idea I had not heard before.

Boris
08-19-2008, 10:06 PM
In any case, Kennedy for VP is an interesting idea I had not heard before.

That's because its INSANE! Obama croaks, and we're stuck with a fat retard's fantasy. Brilliant.

GameTheory
08-19-2008, 10:15 PM
That's because its INSANE! Obama croaks, and we're stuck with a fat retard's fantasy. Brilliant.Caroline, not Ted. Of course they can't do it now since MM suggested it, so it really doesn't matter...

Boris
08-19-2008, 10:28 PM
Caroline, not Ted. Of course they can't do it now since MM suggested it, so it really doesn't matter...

Yeah, I read it. Ted would be even more insane. Look at what MM is writing:

Now, I am breaking this unwritten code and asking you to come forward and help us in our hour of need. So many families are hurting, losing their homes, going bankrupt with health care bills, seeing their public schools in shambles and living with this war without end. This is a historic year for women, from Hillary's candidacy to the numerous women running for the House and Senate. This is the year that a woman should be on the Democratic ticket. This is the year that both names on that ticket should be people OUTSIDE the party machine. This is the year millions of independents and, yes, millions of Republicans are looking for something new and fresh and bold (and you are the Kennedy Republicans would vote for!).

This is the moment, Caroline. Seize it! And Barack, if you're reading this, you probably know that she is far too humble and decent to nominate herself. So step up and surprise us again. Step up and be different than every politician we have witnessed in our lifetime. Keep the passion burning amongst the young people and others who have been energized by your unexpected, unpredicted, against-all-odds candidacy that has ignited and inspired a nation. Do it for all those reasons. Make Caroline Kennedy your VP. "Obama-Kennedy." Wow, does that sound so cool.

Barf! It's our election, not a TV show.

You libs should gag your wingnuts. They are helping you lose an unloseable election.

highnote
08-19-2008, 10:34 PM
That's because its INSANE! Obama croaks, and we're stuck with a fat retard's fantasy. Brilliant.


You talking about Ted or Caroline. Moore was talking about Caroline.

I was just surprised no one ever mentioned her before. Obama choosing her is not outside the realm of possibilities.

highnote
08-19-2008, 10:36 PM
Yeah, I read it. Ted would be even more insane. Look at what MM is writing:



Barf! It's our election, not a TV show.

You libs should gag your wingnuts. They are helping you lose an unloseable election.


I don't think it's unloseable for the dems. I think McCain is going to win it.

Not all libs are democrats. I'm sure some liberal independents hope Obama loses.

Tom
08-20-2008, 07:34 AM
It is all moot. Hillary will walk away with the nomination after a brokered convention and her secret deals with the super delgates.

lsbets
08-20-2008, 07:59 AM
It is all moot. Hillary will walk away with the nomination after a brokered convention and her secret deals with the super delgates.

You have to wonder with the Clintons. Zogby gives McCain a 5 point lead today. Do you think she has people pushing the panic button telling the supers that Obama has already lost the election, that McCains portrayal of him as an empty celeb has worked, that he's been on the losing end of almost everything since SUper Tuesday, etc .... I doubt that happens, but I bet some of her diehards are trying.

rastajenk
08-20-2008, 09:14 AM
It's all about 2012. A President McCain would be 76; might not even run for re-election. A President Osama (oops.... :p ) could take eight years to dislodge, unless he has a historically disastrous first term. The Clintons' chips are entirely on McCain. Their place in history comes first; the party, the nation, and everything else is nowhere.

As for Kennedy, I'm reminded that Cheney was selected to vet VP candidates for Bush...and came up with no one better than himself. :D So it wouldn't be a first.

Marshall Bennett
08-20-2008, 09:27 AM
A perfect match , Obama / Kennedy , neither have the experience to be a school janitor , let alone president . This would be the most pathetic ticket ever casted for the white house . :D

Tom
08-20-2008, 09:40 AM
McCain may be coming up with a worse one - with a DEM on his ticket!!!:eek:

DJofSD
08-20-2008, 09:48 AM
Sure, make it Ted, instead. That way Nancy has a shot at getting into the White House sometime during the BHO administration.

highnote
08-20-2008, 11:27 AM
McCain may be coming up with a worse one - with a DEM on his ticket!!!:eek:


A weak dem at that. Lieberman couldn't even win the dem primary for Senator, so he switched to independent because the republican candidate was so weak. It was republican's who voted him back into the senate.

Lieberman is about Lieberman and is a member of the party of the incumbents. Nothing matters to these politicians except getting re-elected.

BlueShoe
08-21-2008, 08:08 PM
A great choice would have been Gus Hall.He and the senator would have agreed on all the major issues.The only problem is that old Gus has been deceased for nearly ten years.Oh well,am sure that the Dems will come up with someone with an ideology quite similar to that of Mr. Hall.For those of you with short memories or that are 'history challenged",Gus Hall was the the long time leader of the Communist Party USA.

highnote
08-21-2008, 08:18 PM
A great choice would have been Gus Hall.He and the senator would have agreed on all the major issues.The only problem is that old Gus has been deceased for nearly ten years.Oh well,am sure that the Dems will come up with someone with an ideology quite similar to that of Mr. Hall.For those of you with short memories or that are 'history challenged",Gus Hall was the the long time leader of the Communist Party USA.

:lol:

That was pretty good. :D

While reading Obama's book, I was surprised to find how conservative he is on many issues. He seems pro-business to me.

However, it doesn't matter. McCain is more likely to win.

RaceBookJoe
08-21-2008, 10:43 PM
McCain may be coming up with a worse one - with a DEM on his ticket!!!:eek:

I would love to see mccain choose biden, i liked him more than any of the other dems. You want a way to save the country a lot of money...vote for mccain. why? Well, the pension for an ex-pres is just under $200k/yr. If mccain goes 2 terms, that makes him 80....how much long do you think he will will. If obama wins, he will still be young after 8 years. More payout for his pension...probably save the US $5M by voting mccain. :bang:

46zilzal
08-22-2008, 02:44 AM
I didn't say he was a good one. I just said he was one. :D

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He has won more awards and box office records that many others in his field: DOCUMENTED FACT.

PaceAdvantage
08-22-2008, 04:39 AM
I would be pretty shocked if McCain went with a pro-choice VP...

prospector
08-22-2008, 09:43 AM
He has won more awards and box office records that many others in his field: DOCUMENTED FACT.
its too bad his FACTs aren't checked before he does his movies(?)

wes
08-22-2008, 10:06 AM
A perfect match , Obama / Kennedy , neither have the experience to be a school janitor , let alone president . This would be the most pathetic ticket ever casted for the white house .


Obama would have to cross to many bridges alone.

wes

Tom
08-22-2008, 10:14 AM
Overheard the the dem convention.....

"Senator Kennedy.....Mr. Obama was riding here with you. Where is he? He is due to speak."

"Uhhh, I uhh, uhh, he, uhmm, uh......."

:rolleyes:

Tom
08-22-2008, 10:16 AM
He has won more awards and box office records that many others in his field: DOCUMENTED FACT.

And an unqualified Hoo hum! :sleeping::sleeping::sleeping:

Awards have zero to do with facts.
Much like your posts. :D

toetoe
08-22-2008, 03:49 PM
I can't blame Mr. Moore for choosing sides. Look what happened the last time he sat on a fence. It made Humpty Dumpty's affair look quite minor.

Miss Kennedy has suffered enough. To be cajoled by these two and/or their minions is a distasteful thought. (:heaving. :eek: )

Mr. Moore, we need a human bomb to drop upon the nasty folks in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. That bomb, Mr. Moore, is you. Please consider it.

Light
08-22-2008, 04:40 PM
Paris Hilton

JustRalph
08-22-2008, 07:35 PM
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