Mountaineer RIP

[michiken]

I used to love Mountaineer but it has become a whore ground to shippers chasing racino money. The racing has become pathetic!

I am officially declaring it as dead and adding it to Penn National as tracks I will not play.

[njcurveball]

Management is worried to death, handle is down $2 tonight! :eek:

[Cangamble]

Management is worried to death, handle is down $2 tonight! :eek:
It was probably up because I donated there tonight. It was one of better nights there in a while. I only lost $70.

[rufus999]

I used to love Mountaineer but it has become a whore ground to shippers chasing racino money.

Not unlike many other low end tracks. Charlestown gets its fair share of shippers that come in fit and score at a reasonable clip. And some come in off form on a claim and spin their wheels. With Mountaineer its almost always the last stop before the petting zoo.

rufus:9::9::9:

[098poi]

Management is worried to death, handle is down $2 tonight! :eek:

With all due respect, that is funny! :D

[dav4463]

With the exception of tonight, I have had some great nights at Mountaineer and Charlestown.

Mountaineer should have been great for the public tonight. I think one of the top 3 last race Beyer horses won almost every race. That's why I lost money!

[timtam]

I was just at my OTB today (Monday) and I heard a guy say one of the

most crooked tracks is Mountaineer. I usually go to the races in the afternoon

and don't see much from MNR but to hear a guy say that and this thread

I feel there may be something to it.

[SMOO]

If only more t-bred tracks ran at night, that horrid place could be put out of business.

[Ron]

I was just at my OTB today (Monday) and I heard a guy say one of the

most crooked tracks is Mountaineer. I usually go to the races in the afternoon

and don't see much from MNR but to hear a guy say that and this thread

I feel there may be something to it.

Guys at OTB say a lot of things.

[Imriledup]

Had a good night betting last night at the Mountain. Caught a late exacta pretty nice (the 4-5 shot finished 3rd) and in the finale, the mountainman steered me onto the 10 horse who crushed. I was very happy to toss out the favorite who was 4-5 with a low pctg trainer and MORE than happy to head to the cashiers window on the winner. Thanks Mtn Man!:ThmbUp:

[dav4463]

There are many who say every track is crooked when they are losing.

[Cangamble]

There are many who say every track is crooked when they are losing.
I made money there last night. Cashed one ticket, the first exactor. Handicapped the race with 6 minutes to post, and the ex paid over 500. Had it for a fin. Didn't cash another ticket the rest of the night. Wasn't close actually. Made a G note. First time I won betting the Mountain in probably 10 cards over the last few months.
I know they close their eyes to milkshakes over there. The track is probably the least on the up and up of any track I play.

The last 9 races yesterday, when I say I wasn't close, I didn't even have a chance to cash any race at the head of the stretch.

[Tom Barrister]

If only more t-bred tracks ran at night, that horrid place could be put out of business.

Moutaineer won't be going out of business. The racing handle would probably fall if more thoroughbred tracks switched to nighttime. The casino supports the racing operations, and is probably required to do so to a degree.

[ldiatone]

There are many who say every track is crooked when they are losing.
AND they still KEEP ON BETTING!!! would one still play a game that one knows is crooked? carnival games for example! :bang:

[Imriledup]

I love the Mountain. Large fields and good payouts. 3-5 shots don't win at this place like they do at Del mar...you actually have a chance at a horse that pays over 6 bucks.

[skate]

The job is Not to make it easy.


Go figure, whoever puts the card together, just might NOT be as Ingenuous as to be Ingratiated for all players, like always, hello!

[Imriledup]

Anyone watch the 7th at Mountaineer on Friday the 22nd? A 7-2 shot lost the rider at the start and well, you guessed it, went to 4-1 after the race. This was a 3-1 ML with Dana Whitney.

[lamboguy]

i don't want to get you riled up, but this is common occurance. i got a few pm's last night from people that know of it happening. 7 seconds to pick the horse and then another 14 seconds to cancel your bet if you don't like it.

my adw provider says he will fight for me!!

[socantra]

A 7-2 shot lost the rider at the start and well, you guessed it, went to 4-1 after the race. This was a 3-1 ML with Dana Whitney.

And your point is? That's not exactly major movement. A few cents can move the odds from 7-2 to 4-1. All that 7-2 tote odds say is that they quarantee you will get 7-2 at that point. It could have been just shy of 4-1 already.

Conspiracy theories are a wonderful thing and may even be true at times, but in this case it seems the conspirators went to a lot of trouble to produce very little effect. Wow. a whole 2 1/2% points in probability.

[cj's dad]

And your point is? That's not exactly major movement. A few cents can move the odds from 7-2 to 4-1. All that 7-2 tote odds say is that they quarantee you will get 7-2 at that point. It could have been just shy of 4-1 already.

Conspiracy theories are a wonderful thing and may even be true at times, but in this case it seems the conspirators went to a lot of trouble to produce very little effect. Wow. a whole 2 1/2% points in probability.

You can't be serious !!

[socantra]

You can't be serious !!
Not very often. Would you care to expand on that a bit, or are you just into short, pithy comments. :kiss:

[Imriledup]

And your point is? That's not exactly major movement. A few cents can move the odds from 7-2 to 4-1. All that 7-2 tote odds say is that they quarantee you will get 7-2 at that point. It could have been just shy of 4-1 already.

Conspiracy theories are a wonderful thing and may even be true at times, but in this case it seems the conspirators went to a lot of trouble to produce very little effect. Wow. a whole 2 1/2% points in probability.

100 % of the time the horse that loses the rider at the start goes UP in price or stays the same. ONE hundred percent of the time. You will never see one lose the rider and go DOWN. They either stay the same or go up.

[socantra]

100 % of the time the horse that loses the rider at the start goes UP in price or stays the same. ONE hundred percent of the time. You will never see one lose the rider and go DOWN. They either stay the same or go up.

That is impressive. How big is your database? What percentage of the races does a horse throw a rider at the start of the race? Is your data confined to Mountaineer, or does it encompass other tracks? I've seen so few stats in racing that come out to 100% of anything that I really look forward to seeing your data.