2 Year Old Maiden Picks

[cmoore]

A Majority of handicappers don't like 2 year old maiden races. For me they are my favorite races by far. High priced mdns are usually way over bet. No 1st time starter at low odds (under 5/2) will ever get my money. Early speed usually rules in these races. Knowing the best sprint sire in each race is very important. Deciphering the works and patterns plays into it also. So don't hesitate, post your 2 year old mdn picks here.

[Bill Cullen]

The best thing you said, IMHO, is

"A Majority of handicappers don't like 2 year old maiden races."

I didn't specifically know that.

Thanks,

Bill C

[lamboguy]

in the spirit of saratoga, the 5 horse storm hope is a dead bang runner, and if my guess is right, and this one happens to be fairly educated, the 8 horse, teapot dome should be flying late. i might be wrong but the 1+2 seeem to be coming out of a fairly weak race. of course if you want to look at this another way, the stallion for the 5 horse stands at mcmahon's of saratoga, while mr.greely is in kentucky somewhere!

plus bella ransom was as big a runner as i have ever seen. she broke her maiden coming from dead last and won by over 10 lengths, then she won her 1x in an open allowance by 20 lengths! barry swartz wound up with the horse and has been breeding her ever since.

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 2)..Cognito a 700k purchase failed at 3-1 in 1st start and is bet down again..currently 9/5..going against..

4, 5 to win....Flying Private very fast out of gate in last. Shows an excellent 5
...................in the mud. Gone astray shows an excellent work tab.

[cmoore]

Ellis race 1)..10 to win out of concordes tune. getting a fast track today..

[cmoore]

Ellis race 1)..10 to win out of concordes tune. getting a fast track today..

another 3rd...damn

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 5)..2 Lookin At her to win, Hook and Ladder best sire in
......................... mud.....also a tri 1,2/1,2/5,7

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 5)..2 Lookin At her to win, Hook and Ladder best sire in
......................... mud.....also a tri 1,2/1,2/5,7


Hook And Ladder runs 1-2 in the mud...urrrrrrrrg

2 wins $11.40

[juanepstein]

what up biatch!!!

Trainer nameGlatt MarkNoteshillsideHorse nameLovely OliviaActivity typeEntryActivity date07-23-2008TrackDel MarSurfaceTurfDistance1 MileRace number3Purse$34,000Max claim price$40,000Individual claim priceNot Entered for TagRace typeStarter AllowancePost position7JockeyBejarano RRace entryhttp://www.drf.com/entries/23/eDMR23.html#3

[cmoore]

what up biatch!!!

Trainer nameGlatt MarkNoteshillsideHorse nameLovely OliviaActivity typeEntryActivity date07-23-2008TrackDel MarSurfaceTurfDistance1 MileRace number3Purse$34,000Max claim price$40,000Individual claim priceNot Entered for TagRace typeStarter AllowancePost position7JockeyBejarano RRace entryhttp://www.drf.com/entries/23/eDMR23.html#3

I think I got Lovely Olivia out of that cluster f_ _ k...lol..this is a 2 year old mdn thread..I don't believe that race qualifies.

[juanepstein]

I think I got Lovely Olivia out of that cluster f_ _ k...lol..this is a 2 year old mdn thread..I don't believe that race qualifies.

ill do what i want:mad:

[cmoore]

ill do what i want:mad:

I started a thread for you..Any race qualifies..lol..

[cmoore]

Del Mar race 1)1,3 to win..the 1 Octoberfest ran well 1st time out against
.....................tougher..Didn't fire in last..Should improve and getting 7-1.

.....................The 3 sweet Yvett has shown early speed in both starts.
.....................Could wire this field..

[cmoore]

Del Mar race 1)1,3 to win..the 1 Octoberfest ran well 1st time out against
.....................tougher..Didn't fire in last..Should improve and getting 7-1.

.....................The 3 sweet Yvett has shown early speed in both starts.
.....................Could wire this field..

3 $10.00

[juanepstein]

give me slop data for the 9th at toga.

love trippi for the slop in the 10th.

[cmoore]

give me slop data for the 9th at toga.

love trippi for the slop in the 10th.

here you go...http://www.breedingwinners.com/reports/sar0723i.PDF

[juanepstein]

here you go...http://www.breedingwinners.com/reports/sar0723i.PDF


higher the #s the better?

#4 has a big dirt win # and an average mud number.

love tale of the cat on the slop and they kick asz down underr on the wet grass.

[cmoore]

higher the #s the better?

#4 has a big dirt win # and an average mud number.

love tale of the cat on the slop and they kick asz down underr on the wet grass.

yes..higher the better..i'm looking at the race right now also..

[cmoore]

give me slop data for the 9th at toga.

love trippi for the slop in the 10th.

how the hell is this one Ocean colors 8/5..

[juanepstein]

how the hell is this one Ocean colors 8/5..

the dam

[cmoore]

In arlingtons race 7..there's a catalano claim and she's being moved up..everyone and thier brother is aboard this filly at 6/5..She has failed 3 times at 5/2 or less..Will the catalano's magical training touch bring her home today??? LOL..

[cmoore]

arlington race 7)..3,7 to win...

[cmoore]

arlington race 7)..3,7 to win...

nope ..Catalanos Filly closes like a monster and wins..lmao..maybe he'll hit 50% winners for the meet..

[cmoore]

Del Mar race 4)..DD 4,5,7/5,6....Going against the 8 who had a commanding lead in last at a shorter distance and gave it up..at 3/5, they can have him..

[juanepstein]

del mar 4th- w- :1: satyrs
..................w- :3: saint chocolate
.................w- :5: 7 lucky j's

[cmoore]

del mar 4th- w- :1: satyrs
..................w- :3: saint chocolate
.................w- :5: 7 lucky j's

8 torr us up..shoot.

[juanepstein]

thinking about trying my luck at FAIR MEADOWS in about 18 minutes.

its like a day time los alamitos card.

see if i can nail some bombers to make things up for today.

[cmoore]

DelMar race 5)..5 Can Can Girl wp..

[juanepstein]

del mar 5th-w- :8:
.................w- :9:

[juanepstein]

fair meadows 1st- w- :1:
.........................w- :3:
..........................w- :7:

[juanepstein]

ooops wrong thread:(

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 2)..:5: to win....

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 4)..9 wps.....ex 6,7,9/4,6,7,8,9,10

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 4)..9 wps.....ex 6,7,9/4,6,7,8,9,10

:9:

$10.60 $5.40 $4.70

[cmoore]

Arlington race 3)..:2:, :9: to win.........ex :8: / 2,9

[cmoore]

Louisiana Downs Race 3)...:4: to win....lack of early speed in race should let
.................................the Carson City grand sire get to the lead easily..This .................................2 faced a little weaker in last. They can have her at .................................2-1..

[cmoore]

sara toga race 6)..2,6 to win.....ex all/2,6

[HEY DUDE]

SAR R6 #9

[cmoore]

sara toga race 6)..2,6 to win.....ex all/2,6


The 2 closed fast to get 3rd at 25-1...Another 100 feet and she would of gotten 2nd..Just missed the $100 ex for a buck..Damn!!!

[HEY DUDE]

SAR R6 #9

Hey Cmoore,

went 8-9 9 paid 11.80 6.70

[cmoore]

Hey Cmoore,

went 8-9 9 paid 11.80 6.70

Tale of the Cat is the grand sire...speedster for sure..Did u see that 303 layoff fig on the sire race reports on that 9..the top 3 sprinters are the 2,6,8 and throw in your 9 with the 303 layoff fig..easy tri..shoot

[cmoore]

arl race 5)..6,7 win......ex 1/6,7.....tri 1/9/6,7

[cmoore]

saratoga race 5)..3,5,6,9,12 ex box

[cmoore]

saratoga race 5)..3,5,6,9,12 ex box

Damn!!..I ran 1st,3rd and 4th

12-10-5-6

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 5)...ex 5/1,8,10........1,10 to win

[cmoore]

Woodbine race 1)...5 wps...huge overlay....ex box 2,4,5

[cmoore]

Woodbine race 1)...5 wps...huge overlay....ex box 2,4,5

my 40-1 got 4th...He could of gotten a better ride..watch next time out.

[sally]

In the 4th at Saratoga every one of the horses is a first time starter...:confused:

[cmoore]

In the 4th at Saratoga every one of the horses is a first time starter...:confused:

Don't you just love these races...

[JBmadera]

Hey C - you remember to unlock the door?......:lol:

[cmoore]

In the 4th at Saratoga every one of the horses is a first time starter...:confused:

Saratoga race 4)...Ex :5:,:7: / :3::5::6::7:

[sally]

I'm taking a stand--

2$ w/p on the #5 Aoja :cool:

[cmoore]

Calder race 5)..:3:,:9: to win.....ex :1: / :3:,:9:

[cmoore]

I'm taking a stand--

2$ w/p on the #5 Aoja :cool:

chalkie got me..oh well.. at least u got a place payout..

[sally]

didn't I read somewhere that favs tend to win maiden races?

anyway, I got the place spot! :D

[sally]

chalkie got me..oh well.. at least u got a place payout..

thanks cmoore--

[cmoore]

didn't I read somewhere that favs tend to win maiden races?

anyway, I got the place spot! :D

hell no..I hit longshots all the time betting mdn races. How anyone can bet on a horse first time out at 3/2 is beyond me. I didn't like the prices on the 5 and 7, thats why I tried the exactas..

[sally]

hey I lost a dime on that bet...:D :D

[cmoore]

Calder race 5)..:3:,:9: to win.....ex :1: / :3:,:9:

:3:... $13.40

[cmoore]

3 year olds

saratoga race 5).. :5:wps

[cmoore]

Louisiana race 3)...ex 9/2,4,7.......tri 9/8,11/2,4,7,8,11

[cmoore]

3 year olds

saratoga race 5).. :5:wps


:5:
. . $7.30

[cmoore]

Louisiana race 3)...ex 9/2,4,7.......tri 9/8,11/2,4,7,8,11

$1.00 Exacta 9-2 $42.10

[cmoore]

calder race 8)...8,9 to win....ex 10/8,9

[cmoore]

Ellis race 9)..:1: Wholelotatricks to win..ex wheel box :1: / :6:,:8:,:10: Sire is Favorite Trick..38% 1st time out and 63% sprint sire last 3 years. 9 workouts..3 excellent 4f works. Rail is wiring 6F races at a clip of 45% for the meet..ML 6-1..Let's hope he stays there.

[cmoore]

Emerald race 3)..Win :7: Siberian cocktail out of Siberian Summer..
.......................Win :5: Slewleview out of Slewledo..

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 4)..1 out of forest wildcat
.........................7 out of five star day
........................win on both

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 4)..1 out of forest wildcat
.........................7 out of five star day
........................win on both

The 3/5 beat me..

6-7-1 urrrrrrrrrg

[cmoore]

Santiago

race 4)..2,13 to win

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 5)...:5: wp...showed some early speed on the dirt first time out. Came back with a :47.3 work 1/8 but 1/89 for the week for 2 year olds..

........................:9: win..trainer wins 3x the avg within this race type..awesome work tab.

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 5)...:5: wp...showed some early speed on the dirt first time out. Came back with a :47.3 work 1/8 but 1/89 for the week for 2 year olds..

........................:9: win..trainer wins 3x the avg within this race type..awesome work tab.


Dead Heat for 1st..What a race...I'll take it..

:4:
$14.40 $13.40 $8.10
:5:
$19.00 $16.40 $8.60
:8:. . ................$3.30

[JBmadera]

nice score on that 5!

[cmoore]

3 year olds

Woodbine race 6)..5,6 to win

[cmoore]

nice score on that 5!

thanks JB

[JBmadera]

war room?

[cmoore]

lets go

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 5)...:3: wp out of Northern Afleet..
.........................ex :3:,:5:,:7: /:2::3::5::9:

[juanepstein]

SARATOGA 5TH- W- :1::8:

[cmoore]

SARATOGA 5TH- W- :1::8:

2 figured but didn't like 5/2..

[juanepstein]

theres a 2 yr old turf race at delaware coming up.

[cmoore]

theres a 2 yr old turf race at delaware coming up.

No race reports for that one. Looking at it right now..

Taking a risk here..2 Wild leap is bred for speed..Turf??? Maybe he can steal it..win only

[juanepstein]

delaware 7th- w- :6: tatnall street
.....................w- :7: sky clipper
......................w- :8: the optimist

[cmoore]

No race reports for that one. Looking at it right now..

Taking a risk here..2 Wild leap is bred for speed..Turf??? Maybe he can steal it..win only


my betting is terrible..no place bet and the other speedster sire wins it out of Dance fkn Master at 16-1...omg!!!!

[cmoore]

No race reports for that one. Looking at it right now..

Taking a risk here..2 Wild leap is bred for speed..Turf??? Maybe he can steal it..win only

:2: place and show payout
. $28.00 $11.40
somebody shoot me now

[juanepstein]

delaware 7th- w- :6: tatnall street
.....................w- :7: sky clipper
......................w- :8: the optimist

:6: tatnall street - 1st- $35.20 $13.20 $7.60


theyre gonna overlay bruce jackson on the turf,lol! he used to be a top contender on the turf in so. cal in the 80's early 90's.

[juanepstein]

:2: place and show payout
. $28.00 $11.40
somebody shoot me now

always wp if you bet one horse. especially when hes going off at 24/1.

that race was tough to pick. i couldnt decide between the #2 or #8.

one thing ive noticed about turf maiden winners they show alot of bone density and muscle. thats the main reason besides the trainer why i chose the #6. damn #6 crushed!

[cmoore]

saratoga race 7

:6:win
:7:win
:10:wp

Don't like the 8..only one work in 28 days..2-1 is a joke

Don't like the 4..ran well but didn't show early speed..Will have to pass many today to get the job done..5/2 pass

[juanepstein]

jorge chaves scares me when hes outside in a sprint.

#4 out of more than ready- early winners.

[cmoore]

Monmouth race 9

:11: All Of Her Twist..Win...Clocker Special..1/82 is the best 4 furlong work for 2 year olds in the last 7 days..
Forest Wildcat is a 33% 1st time out lat 3 years and a top sprint sire..

:13: Got That Money...WP..I can't leave the other Forest Wildcat Filly out. That wouldn't be right..

11 just went form 6-1 to 7/2..still 9 mtp..somebody hammered her..she should drift back up..

[juanepstein]

Monmouth race 9

:11: All Of Her Twist..Win...Clocker Special..1/82 is the best 4 furlong work for 2 year olds in the last 7 days..
Forest Wildcat is a 33% 1st time out lat 3 years and a top sprint sire..

:13: Got That Money...WP..I can't leave the other Forest Wildcat Filly out. That wouldn't be right..

11 just went form 6-1 to 7/2..still 9 mtp..somebody hammered her..she should drift back up..

she looked great on the track.

so di the asmussen horse- overlayed from 9/2 to 7/1

[cmoore]

saratoga race 7

:6:win
:7:win
:10:wp

Don't like the 8..only one work in 28 days..2-1 is a joke

Don't like the 4..ran well but didn't show early speed..Will have to pass many today to get the job done..5/2 pass

all fkn 3 baby...thats 2 year old MSW handicapping at its finest..

[juanepstein]

saratoga race 7

:6:win
:7:win
:10:wp

Don't like the 8..only one work in 28 days..2-1 is a joke

Don't like the 4..ran well but didn't show early speed..Will have to pass many today to get the job done..5/2 pass

nice hit on #7 kensei

i had her too. posted up at track champion though.:rolleyes:

[juanepstein]

monmouth 9th-w- :6: misty rose
.....................w- :11: all of her twist

[juanepstein]

monmouth 9th-w- :6: misty rose
.....................w- :11: all of her twist


brutal!!!! cooked by the 4/5 favorite!

though maybe one of them had a chance there for a second.

[cmoore]

Monmouth race 9

:11: All Of Her Twist..Win...Clocker Special..1/82 is the best 4 furlong work for 2 year olds in the last 7 days..
Forest Wildcat is a 33% 1st time out lat 3 years and a top sprint sire..

:13: Got That Money...WP..I can't leave the other Forest Wildcat Filly out. That wouldn't be right..

11 just went form 6-1 to 7/2..still 9 mtp..somebody hammered her..she should drift back up..

11 was bet way down..I shouldn't of put my bet in so damn early..2-1 is a sucker bet betting 2 year olds..

[juanepstein]

11 was bet way down..I shouldn't of put my bet in so damn early..2-1 is a sucker bet betting 2 year olds..

thats why i took a chance with the #6 and used the #11 as just a cover.

thought the #9 looked beatable compared the looks of #6 and #11.

[cmoore]

There's only two more 2 year old mdn races left

Delmar race 3
Bay Meadows race 6

[JBmadera]

DMR R3 - :1: W

[sally]

Del Mar R3 going with the #7 Legacy North

trying to beat the #4... :cool:

[cmoore]

Delmar race 3

:1:,:2: win + place

ex box :1::2::7:

[HEY DUDE]

DELMAR RACE 7

#:8: Evita Argentina Win/Place

:8: /:3: -:5: -:7: Ex Key Box


How are you doing Cmoore.

[cmoore]

DELMAR RACE 7

#:8: Evita Argentina Win/Place

:8: /:3: -:5: -:7: Ex Key Box


How are you doing Cmoore.

not bad..need to get something to eat..

[cmoore]

Bay meadows race 6

:5:,:7: to wp

[juanepstein]

there was a crappy post parade they just showed at bay meadows fair.

the parga horse #12 on the outside was putting out a nice stride. lil ansty so i hope the horse doesnt wear himself out.

[cmoore]

there was a crappy post parade they just showed at bay meadows fair.

the parga horse #12 on the outside was putting out a nice stride. lil ansty so i hope the horse doesnt wear himself out.


5-1 is too low from that post imo..Not familiar with Ocean Terrace..

[juanepstein]

bay meadows 6th- wp- :12: ocean plains

[juanepstein]

bay meadows 6th- wp- :12: ocean plains

scratched!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


fk!!!!!!!!!

[cmoore]

scratched!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


fk!!!!!!!!!

they haven't scrtched her yet..No way they are going to run this Filly...

[cmoore]

they haven't scrtched her yet..No way they are going to run this Filly...

odd just went up to 4-1..People are scrambling to the windows to void thier tickets. That filly got loose and ran to the finish line and they haven't scratched her. Unreal!!! Longest delay for a lose horse I've ever seen.

[cmoore]

odd just went up to 4-1..People are scrambling to the windows to void thier tickets. That filly got loose and ran to the finish line and they haven't scratched her. Unreal!!! Longest delay for a lose horse I've ever seen.

it took 5 minutes plus to finally scratch her..Idiots!!!!!

[juanepstein]

im gonna put her on my watchlist.

[HEY DUDE]

DELMAR RACE 7

#:8: Evita Argentina Win/Place

:8: /:3: -:5: -:7: Ex Key Box


How are you doing Cmoore.

:8: -:6: -:2:

$17.20 $6.40:jump:

[juanepstein]

:8: -:6: -:2:

$17.20 $6.40:jump:

nice hit.

no double?

[HEY DUDE]

nice hit.

no double?

No Double. I usually don't play the dbls, pk3, and pk4's

[juanepstein]

No Double. I usually don't play the dbls, pk3, and pk4's

il ike doubles,because if you have a single like that you can look at the probables into the 2nd leg of the double and see what is being played and compare.

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 4)..:5: She's Got Thunder..Thunder Gulch wins 3x the avg 1st time out on the turf over the last 3 years. Excellent workout pattern. Second best turf breeding in race..At 5-1..the best value in the race..wp

[cmoore]

Monmouth race 6)..:5: The Crooner...Broke slow in last and still got lead against tougher. Pleasa scratches the nine and runs the five..Plesa is easily top trainer in races under 6 furlongs..wp

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 5)....ex :1: / :2:,:4:,:6:

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 5)....ex :1: / :2:,:4:,:6:

:2:,:6: to win also

[cmoore]

Ellis race 5)..:6: Hurricane Ginger to win only

[JBmadera]

LAD R4 :12: W


JB

[cmoore]

LAD race 4)....ex :1: / :4:,:7:,:11:,:12:

[cmoore]

Whats up JB..Did u just get home from work??

[cmoore]

LAD race 4)....ex :1: / :4:,:7:,:11:,:12:


Results...

:7:----:11:----:1:
5-1.--35-1---2/5


Just not in the right order..SOB!!!

[JBmadera]

Waz up C - yeah, had to work this a.m....will be on board for a few hours>>>>how the heck are you doing today?

jb

[cmoore]

Waz up C - yeah, had to work this a.m....will be on board for a few hours>>>>how the heck are you doing today?

jb

I let a forest wildcat runner get by in the 5th at Saratoga at 18-1..The race snuck up on me. I didn't do any homwork the night before and I rushed and concentrated on the mud sires more then just pure early speed. Just plain stupid. One thing I believe in. Always look for value. I totally failed in that race.

[JBmadera]

wow - best ped, best fts stats and pays $39! damn, that would have been a nice score

jb

[cmoore]

3 year old mdns

Monmouth race 9)...:7:,:12: to win

[cmoore]

3 year olds

Woodbine race 8)..:10:,:16: to wps

[cmoore]

3 year olds

Woodbine race 8)..:10:,:16: to wps



:16:
$23.50 $8.70 $4.70

[JBmadera]

NICE!!!......I played the stupid 1, think that one is still running......:bang:

[cmoore]

Woddbine race 2)...:2:,:8: wp

[JBmadera]

what's up C? ready for a big day?


JB

[cmoore]

Had to wash up..Time to eat some chicken..Off to work at 5:15..only have 3 hours to make some money..

[JBmadera]

Mth r4, :4: WP

[cmoore]

28 two year old maiden races today..

52 three year old and up mdn races also..

Thats a handfull for sure..

[JBmadera]

Mth r4, :4: WP

$7.60 to place......the 2 tried to give it away by drifting out late but no go

[JBmadera]

WO R4 -:1: W....will play if it drifts back to 2-1

[cmoore]

$7.60 to place......the 2 tried to give it away by drifting out late but no go

I couldn't come up with anything that race. That was a toughy..

[JBmadera]

WO R4 -:1: W....will play if it drifts back to 2-1

:1: paid 5.10 but didn't get back to 2-1 so I passed

[JBmadera]

Suf R1 :6: W, 2nd best PED rating.

[JBmadera]

Mth R6 :3: W.....love the PED and A+ on the works

[cmoore]

Mth R6 :3: W.....love the PED and A+ on the works

I went with the 7 out of Malibu moon..win only

[JBmadera]

I went with the 7 out of Malibu moon..win only

wow, sweet hit 6-1!

[cmoore]

I went with the 7 out of Malibu moon..win only

:7:
$14.60 $7.00 $4.60

[JBmadera]

FL R7 :6: W....

[cmoore]

3 year old mdns..I just posted in wrong thread also JB..LoL!!!

Lad race 3)..Ex :3: / :9:,:10:

[cmoore]

3 year old mdns..I just posted in wrong thread also JB..LoL!!!

Lad race 3)..Ex :3: / :9:,:10:

3-6-9..lost 2nd at the wire..

[juanepstein]

wazzzz up foooooos!

just got off the phone with my licensing company and they are loving my patent.

yeeeee-haaaaw!!

[JBmadera]

wazzzz up foooooos!

just got off the phone with my licensing company and they are loving my patent.

yeeeee-haaaaw!!

now you'll be rolling in the $$$$$$$! good news!

[cmoore]

wazzzz up foooooos!

just got off the phone with my licensing company and they are loving my patent.

yeeeee-haaaaw!!

When u strike it rich..You'll have to stake all the horse racing contests in Vegas and I'll fly out..We split everything 50/50.. You pay for the flight also..
LOL!!!!!

[juanepstein]

now you'll be rolling in the $$$$$$$! good news!

will see

[cmoore]

Arl race 4)..:3::4: ex box..both are short prices

[cmoore]

Arl race 4)..:3::4: ex box..both are short prices


3 wins for fun...2-1 got me off the win bet..

[cmoore]

Calder race 6)..:5: win out of songandaprayer

[cmoore]

Philly race 1)...:2: Silverrod's Kate wp

[cmoore]

Arlington race 1)...:4: wp.......ex box..:1::2::4:

[cmoore]

Calder race 2)..:2: Pay Zone..wp

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 2)..:3:,:8: to win

[JBmadera]

what's up C? doing any good? got back just in time to play sar r2 and bet the 4, didn't see the race but I guess he didn't run a lick.


JB

[juanepstein]

arlington 4th- :11: south beach luv

cant bet it but it looks like a possible bomb threat!!!

[JBmadera]

arlington 4th- :11: south beach luv

cant bet it but it looks like a possible bomb threat!!!

hey dude, bet that 11 as well via twinspires....waz up??

[JBmadera]

hey dude, bet that 11 as well via twinspires....waz up??


no bueno, 9 ripped their bu***

[juanepstein]

no bueno, 9 ripped their bu***

waz up?!?!

yeah that was a pathetic bunch so i thought maybe the #11 had a chance or even that maiden winner on the outside.

i cant bet that place anyways so im gonna play the wet turf at saratoga.

[JBmadera]

making a freakin' mess of my wagers today, had to go on a training ride this am so I wasn't able to sort my picks and I got mixed up and dumped a ton on the wrong horse......:bang: , then only have a few $$$ on that 6 at LAD...craaaaaap!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

[juanepstein]

arlington 4th- :11: south beach luv

cant bet it but it looks like a possible bomb threat!!!

:11: south beach luv- 2nd- 9.20 $7.60

nice place pay if i could bet it.

[cmoore]

what's up C? doing any good? got back just in time to play sar r2 and bet the 4, didn't see the race but I guess he didn't run a lick.


JB

4 wagers, nothing yet...my best was n 11-1 that ran 3rd..

[cmoore]

Arl race 5)..:11:,:12: wp

[JBmadera]

:11: south beach luv- 2nd- 9.20 $7.60

nice place pay if i could bet it.

So. beach was the :10: and he did run 2nd.....i bet the :11:

[juanepstein]

So. beach was the :10: and he did run 2nd.....i bet the :11:

i picked the :9: last night for a contest but changed it to the :10:.

so i cost myself 3+ contest points,lol.

hey chris!!!!!

did you see the ANAABA horse in the :1: post in the saratoga 7th. aussie wet track sire!!!!!

[cmoore]

Arl race 5)..:11:,:12: wp




:5:
$29.20 $17.80 $10.60 ...the Filly with 12 workouts beats me...
:11:
. $15.60 $9.60
:12:
. . $5.80

[juanepstein]

i picked the :9: last night for a contest but changed it to the :10:.

so i cost myself 3+ contest points,lol.

hey chris!!!!!

did you see the ANAABA horse in the :1: post in the saratoga 7th. aussie wet track sire!!!!!

ANABAA- aussie wet sire stats

Perc
wet-424 runs win66 %15.6 dry-2593 runs wins426 %16.4 all- runs 3017 wins492 %16.3


Range Runs Wins Perc
Sprint (1200m and less) 1267 220 17.4
Mile (1201m - 1600m) 1278 201 15.7
Middle (1601m - 2000m) 302 55 18.2
Stayer (2001m and further) 170 17 10.0

[JBmadera]

ANABAA- aussie wet sire stats

Perc
wet-424 runs win66 %15.6 dry-2593 runs wins426 %16.4 all- runs 3017 wins492 %16.3


Range Runs Wins Perc
Sprint (1200m and less) 1267 220 17.4
Mile (1201m - 1600m) 1278 201 15.7
Middle (1601m - 2000m) 302 55 18.2
Stayer (2001m and further) 170 17 10.0

gets the top PED rating for this race, about 125 pts higher than the 9

[juanepstein]

gets the top PED rating for this race, about 125 pts higher than the 9

the negative is channing hill.

gonna take a close look at her on the track.

[cmoore]

ANABAA- aussie wet sire stats

Perc
wet-424 runs win66 %15.6 dry-2593 runs wins426 %16.4 all- runs 3017 wins492 %16.3


Range Runs Wins Perc
Sprint (1200m and less) 1267 220 17.4
Mile (1201m - 1600m) 1278 201 15.7
Middle (1601m - 2000m) 302 55 18.2
Stayer (2001m and further) 170 17 10.0

the top NFT sires in that race according to my database..(LOL )..is

Repriced and Lemon Drop Kid..

[juanepstein]

the top NFT sires in that race according to my database..(LOL )..is

Repriced and Lemon Drop Kid..

lemon drop kid for turf???!!?!? i can see slop.

i just got a pm at trackchampion from someone thats going heavy on the repriced horse(irishnip).

what does it say for the 6th- adcat?

[JBmadera]

the negative is channing hill.

gonna take a close look at her on the track.

I used to really like him but there have been several rides lately that have left me...:mad:

[cmoore]

lemon drop kid for turf???!!?!? i can see slop.

i just got a pm at trackchampion from someone thats going heavy on the repriced horse(irishnip).

what does it say for the 6th- adcat?

Lemon Drop Kid has 95 turf wins in the last 3 years.. Behind Stormy Atlantic who has 97 turf wins..war Chant is 3rd with 74 wins and Ap Indy is 4th with 65, then it drops off alot for the rest..

Hers's the sire report for saratoga ..http://www.breedingwinners.com/reports/sar0809.PDF

[juanepstein]

Lemon Drop Kid has 95 turf wins in the last 3 years.. Behind Stormy Atlantic who has 97 turf wins..war Chant is 3rd with 74 wins and Ap Indy is 4th with 65, then it drops off alot for the rest..

Hers's the sire report for saratoga ..http://www.breedingwinners.com/reports/sar0809.PDF

how and the hell do you read that?

didnt do to well in the 1st picking the lear fan horse and the maria mon horse. everyone knows maria mon excells on wet anything.

[cmoore]

how and the hell do you read that?

didnt do to well in the 1st picking the lear fan horse and the maria mon horse. everyone knows maria mon excells on wet anything.

http://www.breedingwinners.com/UnderstandingSireStatistics.PDF

[cmoore]

Arapahoe race 2)..:1: wp

[juanepstein]

http://www.breedingwinners.com/UnderstandingSireStatistics.PDF

friends dont give friends literature!:mad:

[JBmadera]

Arapahoe race 2)..:1: wp

Can't play Ara but I thought the 5 looked good

[JBmadera]

Sar R6 :6: WP.....I like Western Expressions

[cmoore]

friends dont give friends literature!:mad:

What..You want me to walk u fkn though it...The info is there..Read and you shall learn..

[juanepstein]

What..You want me to walk u fkn though it...The info is there..Read and you shall learn..

i donts needs nos stinkins instructions!!!!

[cmoore]

What..You want me to walk u fkn though it...The info is there..Read and you shall learn..

Or you can come to my Pedigree Seminar..My guest speaker will be 46zilzal..

[juanepstein]

Or you can come to my Pedigree Seminar..My guest speaker will be 46zilzal..

oh snap im there!

[cmoore]

Saratoga race 6)..:2:,:10: wp

[juanepstein]

toga 6th-w- :3::6::9:

[juanepstein]

fk i knew i should of just went wp on the ADCAT horse even though he looked like dog terd on the track.

[juanepstein]

louzana 4th- w- :7::10::11:

[cmoore]

fk i knew i should of just went wp on the ADCAT horse even though he looked like dog terd on the track.

4.90 for 2nd...u didn't miss much..

[juanepstein]

4.90 for 2nd...u didn't miss much..

i miss my $30

[cmoore]

Ellis race 6)..:1: Go Getem..wp...Posse wire to wire..

[JBmadera]

Ellis race 6)..:1: Go Getem..wp...Posse wire to wire..

went w/the :5:

[JBmadera]

Ellis race 6)..:1: Go Getem..wp...Posse wire to wire..

sweeeeeet!

[juanepstein]

louzana 4th- w- :7::10::11:

the damn :11: wouldnt switch leads

been plagued with bad rides the last three days im getting pissed!

[juanepstein]

what a piece of craap post parade at saratoga.

[cmoore]

Ellis race 6)..:1: Go Getem..wp...Posse wire to wire..

:1:
$17.00 $8.40 $6.60

The $2 super paid 26,000...It only costs 21 bucks to wheel the field in a 8 horse superfacta betting a dime..return of $1,345 would of been nice..I had that horse circled last night handicapping at work..

[juanepstein]

just saw the #2 at saratoga on the track and im getting a boner over the way she looks. 14/1!!

[cmoore]

Sar race 7)..ex :5: / :3:,:8:,:9:

[JBmadera]

c-ya boys!

[juanepstein]

toga 7th- w- :1::2::8:

[juanepstein]

toga 7th- w- :1::2::8:

fk this track! i cant any good visuals on the horses before the race.

be back in 30 minutes to hit del mar hard!

[cmoore]

fk this track! i cant any good visuals on the horses before the race.

be back in 30 minutes to hit del mar hard!

Pete..don't go on TILT...I lost my first 6 races today..You'll be back on a winning streak in no time..

[juanepstein]

i will play a trifecta for the 11th race at toga.

toga 11th- $1 tri

:5:
:2::3::6::7:
:2::3::6::7::4::8:

[cmoore]

c-ya boys!

Later on JB..

[cmoore]

Sar race 7)..ex :5: / :3:,:8:,:9:

$1.00 Exacta :5:-:8: $20.20

[juanepstein]

Pete..don't go on TILT...I lost my first 6 races today..You'll be back on a winning streak in no time..

i never leave. i always know things turn around so never go but ill be back for del mar in 15 minutes.

need to feed the brain.

[juanepstein]

$1.00 Exacta :5:-:8: $20.20

nice hittin

i always thought toga had a decent post parade.

what happened?

[juanepstein]

pour salt in my wounds!

8th race at arlington- WINCHESTER wins and pays $17 for douglas on a dermot weld horse.

i got that horse in at eponies contest and trackchampion contest.

micheal de cock horse is coming up soon too. he wont be that price though.

[cmoore]

Suffolk race 9)..:1:, :6:to win

[juanepstein]

i thought angel arroyo was at SULFOLK DOWNS.

cant locate the kid anywhere.

the kid is the shiit on the turf when he can get away from the top NEW YORK tracks.

[cmoore]

Lad race 6)..ex:8: / :2:,:3:,:9:

[juanepstein]

i just watched the replay of arlington 8th and WINCHESTER crushed them badly.

douglas was looking around before hitting the stretch to see if anyone was coming. saw no one so he just unleased the horse.

[cmoore]

Lad race 6)..ex:8: / :2:,:3:,:9:

$1.00 Exacta
:8:-:9: $11.80

[cmoore]

Hastings race 3)..:2: wp....ex box :1::2:

[cmoore]

Hastings race 3)..:2: wp....ex box :1::2:


that 2 was bet way down from 10-1 to 3-1 last minute and fizzled out late..

[juanepstein]

DEL MAR 2ND- W- :1: RAISE THE HEAT
..........................W- :2: BE REALISTIC
..........................W- :3: OUTRAGEOUS LIMIT

[juanepstein]

they just mentioned that WINCHESTER wasnt even in the top 20 list in europe.

so it might be smart to pound the euros at arlington.

[juanepstein]

DEL MAR 2ND- W- :1: RAISE THE HEAT
..........................W- :2: BE REALISTIC
..........................W- :3: OUTRAGEOUS LIMIT

how can espinoza lose to julien couton?

wtf!

[cmoore]

Not betting..arlington Million..Einstein is my pick..just gonna watch

[cmoore]

Not betting..arlington Million..Einstein is my pick..just gonna watch

Spirit One wires em at 13-1..That jockey is going to have a nice flight home after bagging 90k..

[juanepstein]

Spirit One wires em at 13-1..That jockey is going to have a nice flight home after bagging 90k..

euro trifecta too.

might be a note for the breeders cup.

they all look tough this year.

[juanepstein]

del mar 3rd- $1 tri

:2::4:
:2::4::8:
:2::4::8::3::5::7:

[cmoore]

Delmar race 3)..:1:,:9: win

[juanepstein]

del mar 3rd- $1 tri

:2::4:
:2::4::8:
:2::4::8::3::5::7:


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UDGE!!!!!!!!!!!

[cmoore]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UDGE!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought that 9 was going to run away with at first..That 4 ran great off a 2 year layoff. 12 workouts..I've noticed a lot that horses that have a real long workout tab whether first time out or off long layoffs run well at big prices..

[juanepstein]

I thought that 9 was going to run away with at first..That 4 ran great off a 2 year layoff. 12 workouts..I've noticed a lot that horses that have a real long workout tab whether first time out or off long layoffs run well at big prices..

im off my game. race luck and betting wise.

the #8 should of been keyed up and down with the #2 and #4.

[cmoore]

Emerald race 3)...Superfecta..:1: / :2: / :3:,:5: / :3:,:5:,:6:,:7:,:8:

[juanepstein]

you guys are getting crushed at eponies,lol!!!!

are team has finally made a late rally the last 4 events.

[cmoore]

you guys are getting crushed at eponies,lol!!!!

are team has finally made a late rally the last 4 events.

I've played once in the last month..They hardly ever pick mdn races..I won't be playing that again..

[juanepstein]

del mar 4th- w- :5: kailee rush
.................w- :8: caddymaster....cover!
.................ws- :9: aureliano....seems like isiais is only taking live mounts.

[cmoore]

Delmar race 4)..DD..:2:,:8:,:10: / :9:

[juanepstein]

del mar 4th tri changed to

:5::8:
:5::8:
:1::2::4::6::9:

:5::8:
:1::2::4::6::9:
:5::8:

[cmoore]

del mar 4th tri changed to

:5::8:
:5::8:
:1::2::4::6::9:

:5::8:
:1::2::4::6::9:
:5::8:

the tri and super paid good with the 2 favorites running 1-2..Did u have it the other..Don't tell me u changed a winning bet..

[juanepstein]

del mar 4th- w- :5: kailee rush
.................w- :8: caddymaster....cover!
.................ws- :9: aureliano....seems like isiais is only taking live mounts.

:8: caddymaster- 1st- $5.40 $3.00 $2.80

[juanepstein]

del mar 5th- WP- :8: ARASHI CAT

$1 TRI

:8:
:3::5::7::9:
:3::5::7::9::1::6:

[cmoore]

Delamr race 5)..ex :3: / :8:,:9:.............tri :7: / :9: / :3::5::8:

[cmoore]

del mar 5th- WP- :8: ARASHI CAT

$1 TRI

:8:
:3::5::7::9:
:3::5::7::9::1::6:


nice hit..too bad the 7 beat the 5 at the wire..

[juanepstein]

i didnt want that damn #7 to get up for 2nd.

[juanepstein]

nice hit..too bad the 7 beat the 5 at the wire..

yep i was doing the big lean back at my desk hoping he wouldnt get there.

didnt think that was him at the rail for a minute there. thought he was out of the money. my main focus was on clinton potts who ran a text book race.

[juanepstein]

del mar 5th- WP- :8: ARASHI CAT

$1 TRI

:8:
:3::5::7::9:
:3::5::7::9::1::6:


:8: arashi cat- 1st- $10.40 $3.60 $3.20

$1 tri- :8::7::5:= $72.60

[juanepstein]

del mar 6th- win- :1::2::3:

[juanepstein]

seems like the track is slow on the inside posts on the back stretch.

the outside horses have been either leaving the inside horses behind coming out of the gate or they are sitting pretty stalking.

[juanepstein]

del mar 7th- $1 pk4-:4::6::7:-:8::10::12:-:1::5::7::10:-:6::9::12:

[cmoore]

del mar 7th- $1 pk4-:4::6::7:-:8::10::12:-:1::5::7::10:-:6::9::12:

108 bucks..you feelin it..

[cmoore]

Delmar race 7)..pick threee...:1:,:2: / :7:,:12: / :5:,:6:

[cmoore]

Delmar race 7)..pick threee...:1:,:2: / :7:,:12: / :5:,:6:

also 4/12/5,6