My man Ron Paul

[skate]

Hey i do like the guy, but like the guy trying to place his bet as the bell goes off, you're too late.

But here today, i heard him again and like i say i like the man, so when i heard him say, regards to printing money for cenral banks, "the first people that have access to the money do well, but the last people with access get hurt.

Very good point, of which i've not took the time to follow exactely, but i do believe Ron.

Problem being, years ago something helpful was possible. Not today.

[Dave Schwartz]

Very true.

He was the top choice of a lot of right-wingers, btw.


Dave

[rastajenk]

Not a lot. A few. A zealous few, but only a few. The kinds of right-wingers you don't want to be associated with.

[Tom]

I could say the same about Juan McCain't. :ThmbDown:

[ddog]

Yeah, WHy be associated with the kind of right wingers that founded the country, NAH, let's go with the ones that are socialist righties, yeah , that's the ticket.

That would be all the righties in the main Since/including Reagan.

You look at not what they say but what their flunkies do, it's two different universes.

[Tom]

Juan-boy is the one who associated with them then stabbed them in the back.

No forgiveness for this SOB.
He is a traitor to conservatism.
Anyone who reaches out to Ted Kennedy is a persona non gratis.

[skate]

A little off topic but still on issue.

It seems way too difficult for congress to grasp the fact that "THEY" make LAW.

i say this again, because yesterday while congress was questioning Paulsin, Bunning ask about Paulsins idea regarding more money, "what should we do when you ask for more money and we think it not a good idea"?
Paulsin answer, YOU VOTE NO.... Da!

Oh that was good.

[JustRalph]

there were a few things about paul that were ok..............

But they were soon outweighed by the fact that he is a

Crazy ass old man!!!!

[ddog]

sometimes, the crazy guy , is just WAY WAY ahead of his time.
I expect , either via our choice or world forcing us , his econ/monetary views will be in large part seen to have been spot on.

Sooner we get on with the creative destruction that is the very HEART and SOUL of a capitalist society the sooner we get back to a strong and robustly growing job creating economy.


There is nothing wrong with this country in the large part , that a good ole round of bank/business failures/mergers wouldn't fix.

Get these weak sisters and the incompetents who run them out of the way.

People need to learn again that if you take foolish and extreme risks you CAN get the HORNS.


Only the strong well capitalized should go forward.

NO BAIL OUTS NONE.

All the paper being held by the foreign countries, Fan/Fred paper!!, if they don't want to see the stuff go belly up, let them throw in some more chips.

If not, then kill their positions along with the rest.

Why should we bail them out, they invested and reaped the rewards, now the pain.

I don't know which is worse , the whiners or the cowards(bernie/paulson/bushie), hey let the markets work, you were fine with till now?? I would have included our beloved "Congress" , but they are beyond thought.

What happened, talk about your flippers and floppers.

[Dave Schwartz]

Dog,

I think the thing that made Ron Paul unelectable is the way he pisses people off. I think, no matter how good his ideas may be, he still has to be liked by enough powerful people in order to get elected.

Of course, when you are going against the grain - arguably what this country needs - it is sometimes difficult to be well-liked.


Regards,
Dave Schwartz

[Marshall Bennett]

Dog,

I think the thing that made Ron Paul unelectable is the way he pisses people off. I think, no matter how good his ideas may be, he still has to be liked by enough powerful people in order to get elected.

Of course, when you are going against the grain - arguably what this country needs - it is sometimes difficult to be well-liked.


Regards,
Dave Schwartz
...well said !! :ThmbUp:

[classhandicapper]

Most Americans are too dumb, too uneducated, or too busy with life to understand things like monetary policy, the REAL role of the Fed in our country, the real reason we have economic booms and busts, currency problems, etc... So when Ron Paul talks about these things, they are lost. Heck, have you ever actually watched one of the congressional meeting with Greenspan or Benanke. There isn't a person on the committee that even knows what Paul is talking about while his ripping the Fed chief a new asshole.

[lamboguy]

in case you haven't figured it out, RON PAUL IS THE MAN!!!

i wish we could get polititions to listen to him.

[skate]

Most Americans are too dumb, too uneducated, or too busy with life to understand things like monetary policy, the REAL role of the Fed in our country, the real reason we have economic booms and busts, currency problems, etc... So when Ron Paul talks about these things, they are lost. Heck, have you ever actually watched one of the congressional meeting with Greenspan or Benanke. There isn't a person on the committee that even knows what Paul is talking about while his ripping the Fed chief a new asshole.


I gotta agree, as a mater of fact, i try not to miss "Hearings", S N Live has got nothing on this Congress.

I'll go one better, i've seen, twice in the lastr six months, the congress person giving the interview, addressed the interviewee while giving the wrong name for interviewee.
Let alone, the congress person doesnt know the subject, they also didnt know who they were talking too.

[skate]

My thoughts on Ron Paul, nice, inteligent American.


My problem with Ron, he's way too late, the train is moving.


I look at the economic situation, IMO, i think the economy is very strong.
Problems, always, always...

Similar to drive an Nascar, you need the speed very high if only to stay on the track, no way you place well if you slow down. Ron wants to stop, which would be fine, except we would give up every advance, give up your house and live in a tent, give up your car and ride a horse.

Sorry, but you can't just stop the process, no way. Sure, you get a flat tire, you fix the tire. Your bank needs money, you print. The bottom line, you get back in the race, either way, you'll find yourself in the same game that you just left. Same Game, unless you go back to the tent, same game.

Will not be done, never. Nice guy, sure.

[toetoe]

Ralph,

That puts him a few ahead of Lucas McCain and Obamanation, right ?

[bigmack]

RP urged a stop to the Fed's involvement on the war on drugs - How come?

[skate]

RP urged a stop to the Fed's involvement on the war on drugs - How come?

i didn;t here that before, but he could have some good reasons.

1) make em legal
2) let the states do the job ( idoubt this to be the answer)
3) I gotta think, it's really not the Business of the Fed.
4) good source of rev.

[lamboguy]

ron paul represents a good man. he is a true republican. what ever happened to the republican party, all they want to do is lie to you and steal your money these days. the party the way it is is nothing like what nixon and regan would ever dream of. all i ever see republicans do these days is label people that don't like getting fleeced out of their money lefties! its the same line every single time from diehard republicans these days. ask these guys for a solution they will only blame democrats for al the problems they have created.

if you want to be a good republican, go out and support people like romney or ron paul,

[boxcar]

ron paul represents a good man. he is a true republican. what ever happened to the republican party, all they want to do is lie to you and steal your money these days.

Shirley, you jest. The party who lies the most and wants to steal the most are the DemRats through taxation.

Boxcar

[JustRalph]

Suggestion to any candidate:

Stop the "War on drugs" and make Marijuana legal, and tax the hell out of it.
Deport anybody caught with cocaine or increase the prison sentences for it. Zero tolerance on Cocaine would be a good thing. End its use in America in five years. It is a different animal. It needs to go away completely. In fact, I wouldn't mind the death penalty in some circumstances............

Make Prostitution legal, and tax the hell out of it.

Cut taxes on Gambling etc.....racing and others pay too much and have for too long. See the model in Canada.........no taxes on big scores.....

Cut taxes on Windfall items and prizes etc. 45% taxes on that Winner of the Showcase showdown on the Price is Right or any other game show etc, is way too much. Not to mention lottery winners who are the biggest idiots in the world.

End State Lotteries

End the Death Tax

Shut down the department of education and the EPA. Shut down the department of Homeland Security and about five other Cabinet departments.

Shut down FEMA and throw the FEMA budget at the States who need it.

Same with Homeland Security.

Eliminate the Public School systems. They are a total failure.

Shut Down NASA! Now! We can no longer afford it. If somebody wants to go to the moon, let them pay for it. The ROI is awful. I don't care how much you love your velcro

This candidate would get my vote right away.

[riskman]

One thing is certain: The American establishment controls a world-wide empire, has the power to print the world’s reserve currency at will, and can enact virtually any law without constitutional constraint. Such power is rarely surrendered without a long, bitter struggle.

If Rep. Paul were ever a credible threat to win the presidency, then things could get dicey.

The establishment may decide to let him take office ( there would be a lot of dirty tricks beforehand)and then use their considerable influence to ensure his presidency ended in failure – mostly through their control of Congress, the federal bureaucracy, and the mainstream media.

The problem with this strategy is that it entails considerable risk. As president, Rep. Paul could use the substantial powers of the office to inflict untold damage to the imperial structure (especially if he chose to withdraw American troops stationed overseas). Worse, he could appoint anti-government “ideologues” to a variety of positions in the federal government. :jump:

The damage could take decades to undo. :cool:

If these options fail, " The Establishment" could resort to various “extra-legal” strategies – anything from vote-rigging to trumped-up impeachment charges.


Through its control of the Federal Reserve, the banking elites make billions of dollars in unearned profits and exert enormous influence over the American economy. Countless industries and special interest groups (both foreign and domestic) have sprung up around our defense and national security budgets. The bureaucratic elites who dominate the federal government despise the Constitution’s limitations on their power and view the document as just an archaic "piece of paper."

Anyone who believes these folks will simply "walk away" if Ron Paul was or someone similiar is elected president obviously doesn’t understand with whom they are dealing.

[IBCNU]

Most Americans are too dumb, too uneducated, or too busy with life to understand things like monetary policy, the REAL role of the Fed in our country, the real reason we have economic booms and busts, currency problems, etc... So when Ron Paul talks about these things, they are lost. Heck, have you ever actually watched one of the congressional meeting with Greenspan or Benanke. There isn't a person on the committee that even knows what Paul is talking about while his ripping the Fed chief a new asshole.

I completely agree....exactly what about this man makes others on this board catagorize him as "crazy"?

[Tom]

He looks far better than wither of the two nitwits we ended up with.
I would seriously try som ekind of coup at the convention...perhaps he could wake up enough people who have litened to Juan McCain't long enough to realize he is a huge mistake. Right now, I would support anyone who went after the dipstick.

[Tom]

Although, McCain does have his good points.....
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