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Valupix
06-27-2008, 04:09 PM
Woodbine R5

Win: 9 & 10

Valupix
06-27-2008, 04:20 PM
Woodbine R5

Win: 9 & 10
10...$17.40 $10.10 $5.90
13............$14.80 $8.30
11.....................$4.30

Valupix
06-27-2008, 04:34 PM
Suffolk R2

Win: 1

whyhorseofcourse
06-27-2008, 04:40 PM
Do you use software?
Nice call at woodbine.

Valupix
06-27-2008, 04:40 PM
Woodbine R6

Win: 1

beenacoach
06-27-2008, 04:47 PM
I am trying out some software. Use it as a jumping off point not as blackbox. It has turned my game around a LOT. Had a great day yesterday and bet the first two race today at Belmont and at Suffolk, hitting two exactas out of the first four races.

Valupix
06-27-2008, 04:58 PM
Woodbine R6

Win: 1
1...$11.30 $6.10 $4.20
5............$5.10 $4.00
7...................$2.50

Valupix
06-27-2008, 05:00 PM
Do you use software?
Nice call at woodbine.

I think using more than one thing is essential.

I use software and Bris pp's.

Valupix
06-27-2008, 05:11 PM
Louisiana R1

Win: 3

Valupix
06-27-2008, 05:17 PM
Churchill R4

Win: 4


Finger Lakes R9

Win: 3 & 4

Valupix
06-27-2008, 05:30 PM
Belmont R4

Win: 5, 7 & 8

Valupix
06-27-2008, 05:35 PM
Suffolk R4

Win: 1 & 9

Valupix
06-27-2008, 05:38 PM
Woodbine R8

Win: 2

Valupix
06-27-2008, 07:25 PM
Colonial R4

Win: 2 & 7

HEY DUDE
06-27-2008, 07:33 PM
BEL R8 ex 3-5/3-5-7-8

Valupix
06-27-2008, 07:44 PM
Louisiana R6

Win: 5 & 7

Valupix
06-27-2008, 07:52 PM
Colonial R5

Win: 7 & 9

Valupix
06-27-2008, 07:56 PM
Indy R1

Win: 3, 4, 6 & 8

Valupix
06-27-2008, 07:59 PM
Mountaineer R1

Win: 1, 4, 7 & 9

Valupix
06-27-2008, 08:02 PM
Arlington R8

Win: 5

HEY DUDE
06-27-2008, 08:06 PM
BEL R9 GOING LONG WITH THE #2 Chernobyl Princess

P6 carry over on the 5 and not the 2 and 20% Sire FTS.

W/P/S f

Valupix
06-27-2008, 08:07 PM
Belmont R9

Win: 9

HEY DUDE
06-27-2008, 08:14 PM
BEL R9 GOING LONG WITH THE #2 Chernobyl Princess

P6 carry over on the 5 and not the 2 and 20% Sire FTS.

W/P/S f


OUCH! 3 ran a nice race.

Valupix
06-27-2008, 08:16 PM
Louisiana R7

Win: 7

Valupix
06-27-2008, 08:20 PM
Colonial R6

Win: 5


Indy R2

Win: 2

Valupix
06-27-2008, 08:25 PM
Churchill R10

Win: 3 & 9


Mountaineer R2

Win: 6

Valupix
06-27-2008, 08:35 PM
Lone Star R1

Win: 1


I can't back into one right now...

Valupix
06-27-2008, 08:48 PM
Evangeline R2

Win: 5 & 10

HEY DUDE
06-27-2008, 08:49 PM
MNR R3 W/P 9

Valupix
06-27-2008, 08:49 PM
Mounatineer R3

Win: 5, 6, 7 & 8

Valupix
06-27-2008, 08:53 PM
Churchill R11

Win: 7 & 10

Valupix
06-27-2008, 09:02 PM
Churchill R11

Win: 7 & 10

7...$29.00 $12.00 $6.40
3.............$4.40 $3.20
9....................$3.20

Valupix
06-27-2008, 09:06 PM
Indy R4

Win: 10

Valupix
06-27-2008, 09:15 PM
Mountaineer R4

Win: 6

Valupix
06-27-2008, 09:16 PM
Evangeline R3

Win: 3 & 12

HEY DUDE
06-27-2008, 11:03 PM
HOL R1 W 4

HEY DUDE
06-27-2008, 11:13 PM
HOL R1 W 4

4$4.40$2.40$0.003.$3.20$0.00

Anoniem
06-27-2008, 11:15 PM
Do you guys mind playing this Hollywood card with me? I'd like to pick up some techniques.

In the first race I had Win #2 because he was 8/5 morning line (with better betting odds at post), and a faster speed figure at this distance (albeit from Aug07).

HEY DUDE
06-27-2008, 11:21 PM
Do you guys mind playing this Hollywood card with me? I'd like to pick up some techniques.

In the first race I had Win #2 because he was 8/5 morning line (with better betting odds at post), and a faster speed figure at this distance (albeit from Aug07).

Join in dude. I use the bris utls and the 2-3-5 are early speed. The 4 is early presser type with better closing speed demonstrated than the other 3. Also, the 2 starts out fast, but seems to die in the strech demonstrated. I'm no pro at this dude, but I think this was probably an easy race, plus luck.

Anoniem
06-27-2008, 11:27 PM
I think Hollywood R2 #3, but I'd like to see #5 if the pace is slow to begin with.

Thoughts?

Burls
06-27-2008, 11:32 PM
HOL R3

357 EXB
357 TBX
Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggg Money!!!!!!!!!!!!

HEY DUDE
06-27-2008, 11:33 PM
Hey Burls,


Ex Bx 2/3-5-6-8

Anoniem
06-27-2008, 11:34 PM
What do you see in the #7?

Burls
06-27-2008, 11:38 PM
HOL R3

357 EXB
357 TBX
Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggg Money!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bettor's OBJECTION on the 1.

Valupix
06-27-2008, 11:40 PM
Evangeline R8

Win: 4, 7 & 8

Burls
06-27-2008, 11:42 PM
Bettor's OBJECTION on the 1.

The Stewards have quashed the Bettor's Objection.

Valupix
06-27-2008, 11:44 PM
Mountaineer R10

Win: 1 & 8

Valupix
06-27-2008, 11:45 PM
Prairie Meadows R8

Win: 10

Valupix
06-27-2008, 11:48 PM
Emerald R5

Win: 7 & 11

Anoniem
06-27-2008, 11:54 PM
Anyone think you're seeing good values on the #1, #8, #9 at Hollywood R3?

Valupix
06-27-2008, 11:55 PM
Emerald R5

Win: 7 & 11

11...$21.40 $9.20 $5.60
6..........$33.20 $17.20
9...................$17.80

Valupix
06-27-2008, 11:58 PM
Anyone think you're seeing good values on the #1, #8, #9 at Hollywood R3?

I looking for these prices;

3: 9/5
8: 4/1
1: 10/1
5: 11/1
6: 12/1
7: 14/1

I'm not considering the 9.

Burls
06-27-2008, 11:59 PM
What do you see in the #7?
I'm looking at the 60 Beyer as a FTS.
With Campos riding, I thought there was definitely some value there.
But I never gave the 1 more than about 2/3 of a second's attention.
There ya go.

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:00 AM
Hollywood R3

Win: 5 & 7

HEY DUDE
06-28-2008, 12:01 AM
HOL R3 W #8 and w/p #7

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:04 AM
Anyone think you're seeing good values on the #1, #8, #9 at Hollywood R3?
I hope you found some value in them.

Burls
06-28-2008, 12:06 AM
Hey Burls

Hey Dude....what does it say on the teeny little writing on your av's forehead?

Burls
06-28-2008, 12:07 AM
HOL R3 W #8 and w/p #7

You ended up even on that one.

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:07 AM
Evangeline R9

Win: 8

***I really like this one!!!...

HEY DUDE
06-28-2008, 12:08 AM
HOL R3 W #8 and w/p #7

8$6.00$3.60$2.80

1

.$5.20$3.406..$4.60

Would have liked to had seen the 7 cross 1 or 2. But I'll take the 6 bucks!

HEY DUDE
06-28-2008, 12:10 AM
You ended up even on that one.

Burls,
Trust me. Thats better than what I've been doing. That was a freebie:lol:

Burls
06-28-2008, 12:11 AM
Evangeline R9

Win: 8

***I really like this one!!!...

Nice Call!!!
Did ya like it so much you threw a crisp $100 bill on it?

Uh Oh!.....
Jockey's Objection....
The tension mounts...

DENIED!!!

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:15 AM
Emerald R6

Win: 1


Praire Meadows R9

Win: 1, 3 & 7

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:19 AM
Nice Call!!!
Did ya like it so much you threw a crisp $100 bill on it?

Uh Oh!.....
Jockey's Objection....
The tension mounts...

DENIED!!!

The unfortunate thing is I can not bet Evangeline
@#%&X!!!!!!!

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:20 AM
Evangeline R9

Win: 8

***I really like this one!!!...

8...$9.40 $4.80 $2.60
7..........$3.60 $2.20
4..................$2.60

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:27 AM
Hollywood R4

Win: 7

Ex: 5 with 3,4,7,8,9

Burls
06-28-2008, 12:27 AM
HOL R4

1/459 EX
1/459/459 TRI
1/459/459/459 SPF

Anoniem
06-28-2008, 12:28 AM
#3 Hollywood R4?

Burls
06-28-2008, 12:28 AM
The unfortunate thing is I can not bet Evangeline
@#%&X!!!!!!!

Why not?

Where do you live?

HEY DUDE
06-28-2008, 12:28 AM
HOL R4 exbx 1-2-9

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:31 AM
Why not?

Where do you live?

Kentucky.

And I refuse to open more than one account.

They lose out on far more than I do.

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:32 AM
Hollywood R4

Win: 7

Ex: 5 with 3,4,7,8,9



#$%&X!

Burls
06-28-2008, 12:35 AM
HOL R4

1/459 EX
1/459/459 TRI
1/459/459/459 SPF

Nada ...
Time to slow down a little bit.

HEY DUDE
06-28-2008, 12:35 AM
RACE 4 at HOL, We all sucked on that one.

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:36 AM
Evangeline R10

Win: 6

beenacoach
06-28-2008, 12:37 AM
I am still getting used to the software I am trying but had a big day yesterday and a positive ROI today so I cant complain. Complete reversal from what I was doing

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:43 AM
I know some of you like Q-Horse racing. But if it takes longer to load 'em in the gate than it does to run the race, you really don't have much of a show.

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:44 AM
Emerald R7

Win: 3

beenacoach
06-28-2008, 12:45 AM
very true, but such great horses they are....getting into TB racing but will always prefer the QH as a breed.

My first TB finally had her first out tonigh

Burls
06-28-2008, 12:45 AM
Kentucky.

And I refuse to open more than one account.

They lose out on far more than I do.

I have a Premier Turf Club account that I use for EVD and some other tracks.
Unfortunately, PTC doesn't carry any Cal tracks.
But they carry EVD and most of the smaller tracks.
EVD has a 17% takeout on WPS bets - 6% rebate from PTC = 11% takeout.
EVD has a 20.5% takeout on EX bets - 8% rebate from PTC = 12.5% takeout.

That gives the horseplayer a real edge that can make the difference between being in the red or in the black.

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:46 AM
Additions

Evangeline R10

Win: 5 & 7

beenacoach
06-28-2008, 12:47 AM
How do Belmont and Suffolk stack up? I am betting Twinspire but have no idea about their rebates

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:49 AM
Prairie Meadows R10

Win: 3 & 5

beenacoach
06-28-2008, 12:49 AM
Oh yeah I bet Hollywood Park a lot too ....just not tonight

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:51 AM
Emerald R7

Win: 3

3...$19.60 $6.60 $5.00
1............$2.40 $2.10
6....................$3.20

HEY DUDE
06-28-2008, 12:55 AM
HOL R5 exbox 2-3-4-8 w/p/s #3

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:55 AM
Hollywood R5

Win: 4

Anoniem
06-28-2008, 12:56 AM
I have HOL R5 SHOW#4

Valupix
06-28-2008, 12:58 AM
Has the 10th at Evangeline been run?

Anoniem
06-28-2008, 01:02 AM
I win/placed #4 in that last Hollywood race after showing him. Excellent!

Valupix
06-28-2008, 01:04 AM
Hollywood R5

Win: 4

4...$8.60 $4.20 $3.20
2..........$3.40 $2.40
7..................$3.40

HEY DUDE
06-28-2008, 01:05 AM
HOL R5 exbox 2-3-4-8 w/p/s #3

Shiest! Was hopping the 3 was in.

4-2= $13.something

Burls
06-28-2008, 01:06 AM
How do Belmont and Suffolk stack up? I am betting Twinspire but have no idea about their rebates

PTC doesn't have BEL.
Unfortunately, they don't have any of the really big tracks.
But they have almost all of the smaller tracks.
They give 5% rebates on WPS bets and 7% on everything else at SUF.
I have two accounts.
One for the big tracks with no rebates and PTC for the small and midsize tracks where I get about 7% back on all my wagers.
I'll take any edge I can get.
This horseplaying game is tough!

Oh, and there's no rebates at Twinspires, but they do have all the big tracks.

Valupix
06-28-2008, 01:11 AM
PTC doesn't have BEL.
Unfortunately, they don't have any of the really big tracks.
But they have almost all of the smaller tracks.
They give 5% rebates on WPS bets and 7% on everything else at SUF.
I have two accounts.
One for the big tracks with no rebates and PTC for the small and midsize tracks where I get about 7% back on all my wagers.
I'll take any edge I can get.
This horseplaying game is tough!

Oh, and there's no rebates at Twinspires, but they do have all the big tracks.

Twinspires rebates.

Valupix
06-28-2008, 01:13 AM
Emearld R8

Win: 1 & 2

Valupix
06-28-2008, 01:20 AM
Emearld R8

Win: 1 & 2

1...$12.60 $5.20 $3.40
10..........$4.80 $3.20
7..................$2.20


It got reallly ugly throw the middle of the day, but I cut my losses to a modest amount.

I think I'm 8 for 75, minus $21.70

With a wide open Hollywood race 6 coming up.

HEY DUDE
06-28-2008, 01:20 AM
HOL R6 I'm liking the 3 & 9 for win


ex keybx 3-9/3-9-2-4-6

HEY DUDE
06-28-2008, 01:22 AM
1...$12.60 $5.20 $3.40
10..........$4.80 $3.20
7..................$2.20


It got reallly ugly throw the middle of the day, but I cut my losses to a modest amount.

I think I'm 8 for 75, minus $21.70

With a wide pen Hollywood race 6 coming up.

Nice job dude!

Valupix
06-28-2008, 01:25 AM
Hollywood R6

Win: 4, 7 & 9

Burls
06-28-2008, 01:25 AM
HOL R6

469 EXB
469 TBX
4 W

Burls
06-28-2008, 01:28 AM
Twinspires rebates.

I didn't know that.
How much do they give?
I'm in Canada and Twinspires doesn't accept non-US people, as I understand.

Valupix
06-28-2008, 01:31 AM
I didn't know that.
How much do they give?
I'm in Canada and Twinspires doesn't accept non-US people, as I understand.

I don't think they publish it becasue I don't think it's the same for everyone. But it is there for those that put enough money throw the windows.

Burls
06-28-2008, 01:31 AM
HOL R6

469 EXB
469 TBX
4 W

I had my hopes up for a while there.

HEY DUDE
06-28-2008, 01:32 AM
HOL R6 I'm liking the 3 & 9 for win


ex keybx 3-9/3-9-2-4-6

FKN NAKATOMOA OR WHATEVER THE FK YOUR NAME IS. THIS GUY DECIDES TO PULL ONE OUT OF HIS ARSSE TONIGHT!:bang:

Valupix
06-28-2008, 01:50 AM
Hollywood R7

Win: 2

DD: 2 with 2,6,7

juanepstein
06-28-2008, 01:51 AM
holywood 7th- w- #3 highland torree
......................w- #5 wickedandwackyingrid

Anoniem
06-28-2008, 01:51 AM
Rebates at TwinSpires? I've bet $1,000 there the last couple of days. Is that the type of handle that would deserve a rebate... or not really?

Valupix
06-28-2008, 02:00 AM
Rebates at TwinSpires? I've bet $1,000 there the last couple of days. Is that the type of handle that would deserve a rebate... or not really?

A million a year. Which doesn't take as much of a bankroll as you might think.

juanepstein
06-28-2008, 02:01 AM
holywood 7th- w- #3 highland torree
......................w- #5 wickedandwackyingrid

#3 highland torree-1st- $10.80 $5.00 $2.60

Burls
06-28-2008, 02:02 AM
3245

I'll bet that cleared out some P6 tickets.

juanepstein
06-28-2008, 02:08 AM
3245

I'll bet that cleared out some P6 tickets.

the pk6 players who gave a ton of respect to highland torree will be rewarded nicely.

HEY DUDE
06-28-2008, 02:09 AM
HOL R8 3-6-7 exbx

HEY DUDE
06-28-2008, 02:20 AM
HOL R8 3-6-7 exbx

Add also exbx 3-6-9-10

Burls
06-28-2008, 02:21 AM
HOL R8

6,7,10 TBX
6 W X 2

Valupix
06-28-2008, 02:22 AM
Hollywood R8

Win: 3, 6 & 10

Tri: 6 with 2,3,7,9,10 with all

juanepstein
06-28-2008, 02:23 AM
hollywood 8th- wp- #6 kerzner
......................w- #9 warrens blvd

Burls
06-28-2008, 02:23 AM
the pk6 players who gave a ton of respect to highland torree will be rewarded nicely.

If the 7 doesn't win the last race, there'll be a carryover.

juanepstein
06-28-2008, 02:31 AM
los al 8th- $1 tri

2,7
2,7
1,3,4,5

2,7
1,3,4,5
2,7

juanepstein
06-28-2008, 02:45 AM
aus 7b- $1 tri

2,4
2,4
3,5,7,10

2,4
3,5,7,10
2,4

juanepstein
06-28-2008, 02:53 AM
los al 9th- w- #8 cartel sizzle
................w- #9 catchinon

$1 tri

8,9
8,9
2,3,4,6

8,9
2,3,4,6
8,9

juanepstein
06-28-2008, 03:03 AM
los al 9th- w- #8 cartel sizzle
................w- #9 catchinon

$1 tri

8,9
8,9
2,3,4,6

8,9
2,3,4,6
8,9

#9 catchinon- 1st- $7.40 $2.80 $3.00

$1 tri- 9/4/8= $37.70