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King Ritchie
06-24-2008, 05:48 AM
Obama people are saying that whites who won't vote for Obama are racists. How do you feel about that?

Greyfox
06-24-2008, 05:55 AM
Obama people are saying that whites who won't vote for Obama are racists. How do you feel about that?

There are quite a few whites who are voting for Obama to prove that they are not racists, when in fact they really are racists, but it's not in to be a racist.

There are quite a few blacks who are voting for Obama because finally they have a chance to have a black man in the Oval office. I can't blame them for that. But in doing so they are being "racists."

Skin color should have nothing to do with your vote. You should vote on who will best represent you and your issues. Unfortunately, I haven't seen my candidate yet. I'm not voting for Obama simply because he repeats cliche empty mantras over and over. I haven't heard any substance, yet.

JustRalph
06-24-2008, 06:28 AM
Try this one on for size........these are Obama Supporters.........

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PzFOOcEQtP0

Shenanigans
06-24-2008, 08:33 AM
Obama's black?? I thought he was half white.:p
I am not voting for Obama because of his Socialist views. His skin color has nothing to do with my vote.
If anyone is a racist, he is. I see where he has finally pulled out his "race card" at a rally/dinner/benefit? with mostly black supporters. He is saying that the Reps. are going to try to use his name to "strike fear" into voters and the "did we mention he is black" line. He's playing the victim. Here's a man that is claiming to try to "unite" us all, but with that speech, he is doing nothing more than seperating us.

Hank
06-24-2008, 09:29 AM
Obama people are saying that whites who won't vote for Obama are racists. How do you feel about that?

:lol::lol:

hcap
06-24-2008, 09:32 AM
Racists come in all political colors

http://images.salon.com/comics/tomo/2008/06/24/tomo/story.jpg

Hank
06-24-2008, 09:32 AM
There are quite a few whites who are voting for Obama to prove that they are not racists, when in fact they really are racists, but it's not in to be a racist.

There are quite a few blacks who are voting for Obama because finally they have a chance to have a black man in the Oval office. I can't blame them for that. But in doing so they are being "racists. "

Skin color should have nothing to do with your vote. You should vote on who will best represent you and your issues. Unfortunately, I haven't seen my candidate yet. I'm not voting for Obama simply because he repeats cliche empty mantras over and over. I haven't heard any substance, yet.

please look up the word racist and stop making a fool of youself.:lol:

Hank
06-24-2008, 09:48 AM
Try this one on for size........these are Obama Supporters.........

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PzFOOcEQtP0

Ahh ...What did your hero W accomplish before he become president? And getting loaded and running 6 companys into ruin dont count as accomplishments.OK GO I all ears:lol::lol:

Greyfox
06-24-2008, 10:07 AM
please look up the word racist and stop making a fool of youself.


I've never met anyone in "real life" Hank who refers to me as a "fool."

rac·ism (rhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/amacr.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gifshttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ibreve.gifzhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/lprime.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gifm)
n. 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.



In your apparent understanding of the term, where am I in err? Please explain.

Tom
06-24-2008, 10:24 AM
According to 2. above, a synonym for racism would be affirmative action.

Greyfox
06-24-2008, 10:40 AM
According to 2. above, a synonym for racism would be affirmative action.

:ThmbUp: Right. It's one form of racism designed to compensate for a more vile form of racism. You're exactly right.

Marshall Bennett
06-24-2008, 10:42 AM
Obama people are saying that whites who won't vote for Obama are racists. How do you feel about that?
Are blacks that won't vote for McCain racist ?

Lefty
06-24-2008, 11:13 AM
Hank, GW was Gov. of Texas. That's a big job. Much bigger and more demanding than being a senator.

ddog
06-24-2008, 11:16 AM
Hank, GW was Gov. of Texas. That's a big job. Much bigger and more demanding than being a senator.



:lol:


legislature runs Texas.

46zilzal
06-24-2008, 11:22 AM
Racism is taught. It doesn't evolve de novo.

I have, what I would call in most other aspects, rational relatives who live in the South. From visiting them multiple times it is part of their culture.

Lefty
06-24-2008, 11:25 AM
dog, and of course the Gov sits around and doesnothing...

alydar
06-24-2008, 12:38 PM
Obama people are saying that whites who won't vote for Obama are racists. How do you feel about that?

What person from the campaign actually said something like this?
Answer, nobody. Are there people out there saying it who are supporters of Obama yes, but they are not people from the campaign.

It is not hard to find ignorant comments and beliefs on all sides.

ddog
06-24-2008, 01:39 PM
dog, and of course the Gov sits around and doesnothing...


yes, you got it.
congrats.


:)

ddog
06-24-2008, 01:42 PM
yes, I don't know ANYONE who isn't to some degree.
The acceptance of that fact and your willingness to deal with it, even if painfull is what seperates the good from the bad.

The question in and of itself is meaningless.

It's what you do with it after that counts.

Everyone is hard-wired to want to be with their type - what they were born/bred into/with.

It's as natural as breathing.

prospector
06-24-2008, 03:09 PM
Obama people are saying that whites who won't vote for Obama are racists. How do you feel about that?
if not voting for obama makes you a racist...call me a racist

46zilzal
06-24-2008, 05:10 PM
The implicit association test can bring out just how much the culture has branded your racists tendencies.
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/

Bruddah
06-24-2008, 05:58 PM
to be nice to people of other races because I like "them" as individuals. Then again, I do go out of the way to people of other races because I don't like them as individuals. I suppose, in some peoples eyes, this could be considered racist. However, I see it as either liking or disliking individuals.

Gee! Now that I think of it, I was just having agreements or disagreements with people who just happen to be of a different race. Whew!! I'm glad I cleared that up in my mind. This thread had me convinced I was a Neo Nazi skin head.

Guess what? I don't think I am going to vote for Obama because he is inexperienced and naive about many geo political issues. Uh oh! He's Black and I'm not voting for him, I must be a racist. Now I'm all confused again. :confused:

Hell, I'm just not going to vote so I won't be considered a racist. I'd rather to be thought of as Un American than racist. Is this what the Obama people want, to cancel your vote, if voting for McCain? :confused:

HUSKER55
06-24-2008, 07:32 PM
Obama has no qualities to be president so he plays the race card. I never vote for anybody that thinks they need to use their race to be elected. How many unqualified people do you see in office that got there playing the race card or women who played the sex card. The list goes on and on and on.

If you fall for that, black, white or polka dot, you are an idiot and that is a bigger problem than you being a racist.

Think about it.

husker55

Lefty
06-24-2008, 07:38 PM
Husker, so right on. I wouldn't vote for Obama if he was an Albino! He'll raise taxes, appear weak to the world, and create prgm after prgm that does nothing but "eat" money.

Secretariat
06-24-2008, 07:44 PM
dog, and of course the Gov sits around and doesnothing...

no, he signs orders for executions and prays a lot.

Lefty
06-24-2008, 07:53 PM
sec, yeah excutions that were ordered by a judge and jury. If you guys thinks that is all a Gov does you're even more naive than I thght.

WinterTriangle
06-24-2008, 11:28 PM
What person from the campaign actually said something like this?
Answer, nobody. Are there people out there saying it who are supporters of Obama yes, but they are not people from the campaign.

It is not hard to find ignorant comments and beliefs on all sides.

Campaign workers/managers/press make gaffs all the time. McCain's people made a big one this week, noting that "another terrorist attack would be good for McCain's chances...." or something to that effect.

McCain, of course, was horrified. But he can't control other people.

I'm sure it's the same with Obama.

I personally don't hold anyone accountable for what their friends, preachers, wife, managers say. I listen to what they themselves have to say.

As for racism...everyone is to a degree. Even being non-racist, you have to be hyper-aware of skin color in order to denounce judging people on it. I've met maybe 2 or 3 people in my entire life who just don't seem to even *notice* skin color/race. Human beings will always pick up on *differences*....we are hard-wired to do that. That's what makes us curious about other people. Our brains naturally make these differentiations for us.

What you *do* with that information, however, is what's important. Not being overly judgemental and being somewhat tolerant is what we should strive for.

JustRalph
06-25-2008, 12:42 AM
McCain, of course, was horrified. But he can't control other people.

I don't get it? Why McCain responded like that is beyond me. The guy was telling the truth. A Terrorist attack prior to the election benefits McCain, and that is obvious to anyone with half a brain. There won't be any type of large attack...........the Terrorists want McCain to lose.

A new terrorist attack nullifies the Left/Dems and their squawking about the Patriot act etc. It also makes Obama's "I will talk to them" foreign policy mantra look weaker. Why McCain felt the need to disown the guy is the usual McCain wanting to kiss up with the world act. He is going to run a weak campaign that is afraid to hit anybody hard on anything and he is going lose if he keeps that mindset.

PaceAdvantage
06-25-2008, 02:30 AM
no, he signs orders for executions and prays a lot.Well, Obama is halfway there...he prays alot, AND we're been told his FAITH will play a big part in his public policy decisions....

Imagine if Bush said that publicly....what would you write about him? Would you scream THEOCRACY A 'COMMIN, THEOCRACY A 'COMMIN!

lamboguy
06-25-2008, 04:17 AM
this time around, kinda think guys like reagan and kennedy are rolling around in their graves right now with this election. i mentioned those 2 because they were intensely dedicated to public service, whether their opinion's were right or wrong.

elections today look like games. pollsters and spinartist's rule the day. a candidate checks out the popularity of his views before he speaks these days.

none of them have any guts to make tuff choices. mr. obama claims he is a religious man, i suppose he will get a few replican evagelical votes that way,
i suspect not enough to get elected though.

i promise you that no matter what the polls say, he is a tough guy to walk in the boooth and pull that lever down for him.

for the record, i bet on mccain, and am gonna step in for more if i can get +200 on him now.

ezpace
06-25-2008, 03:12 PM
in Ron Paul... McCain is to white*,old and dumb... Obama is

Kremlin RED *ARMY type.......! jesse ventura and Ron Paul are just the right color:)

and jesse will kick your ass black/white/brown /or red


call me a red/white/black/brown racist and ... week end semi-anarchist ;)

headhawg
06-25-2008, 03:22 PM
Well, Obama is halfway there...he prays alot, AND we're been told his FAITH will play a big part in his public policy decisions....Which God does he pray to?

Presidential candidates have left a lot to be desired the last few elections, no? Maybe its time to be under British rule again. (I'm kidding, I'm kidding.)

Lefty
06-25-2008, 07:04 PM
ezpace, Ventura blves the b.s. about the 9-11 towers not entirely caused by the airplanes that hit them. He's an idiot. Paul is a libertarian and they blve in the right to dope and open borders. Another idiot.
Face it, you're choice is between Obama and MCain.

BlueShoe
06-25-2008, 08:49 PM
My decision on voting for a candidate is based mostly on political ideology.My aversion to Senator Obama is simply that I do not share his Marxist/Lenisist beliefs.If things were different and we had a different set of candidates,for example,a white WASP liberal vs. a Black conservative,without hesitation would vote for the conservative,no thought required.A disturbing trend in the election is that a few Black conservatives are considering voting for Obama,the reason being "pride" at seeing a Black runing for president.If this is not blatent racism,then what is?In todays America,if you are Black,Latino,Asian,Native American,female,or gay,it is PC to scream racism,sexism,or discrimination,but heaven help you if you are a white heterosexual male and do not toe the line with the above mentioned.

Lefty
06-25-2008, 09:04 PM
blueshoe, Amen Brother!

chickenhead
06-25-2008, 10:20 PM
A disturbing trend in the election is that a few Black conservatives are considering voting for Obama,the reason being "pride" at seeing a Black runing for president.If this is not blatent racism,then what is?

To go from being told you and your peeps aren't even human, to having a "brother" with a shot to sit in the drivers seat of the most powerful entity mankind has yet invented...within a portion of a lifetime?

I guess I can understand a certain amount of pride being taken in that, apart from politics. It's a journey I'll never have to take, god willing.

chickenhead
06-25-2008, 11:07 PM
we did some funky stuff to one another once upon a time, not so long ago, in a place not so far far away. Alien, to look at.

ddog
06-26-2008, 01:43 AM
Obama has no qualities to be president so he plays the race card. I never vote for anybody that thinks they need to use their race to be elected. How many unqualified people do you see in office that got there playing the race card or women who played the sex card. The list goes on and on and on.

If you fall for that, black, white or polka dot, you are an idiot and that is a bigger problem than you being a racist.

Think about it.

husker55


think about it? why , it's senseless in the orginal question of the thread.

bizzarre.

ddog
06-26-2008, 02:06 AM
ezpace, Ventura blves the b.s. about the 9-11 towers not entirely caused by the airplanes that hit them. He's an idiot. Paul is a libertarian and they blve in the right to dope and open borders. Another idiot.
Face it, you're choice is between Obama and MCain.

Ron Paul believes in OPEN BORDERS????
Are you on the "dope" ALL THE TIME?

From his web site even for you , easy to find if you would stop spewing long enough to click once or twice.........


Ron Paul 2008 — Hope for America
Announcement from Texas Home About Ron Issues Debt & TaxesHealth CareInflation TaxIraqNational DefenseBorder Security & ImmigrationPrivacy & Personal LibertyVeteransMore Issues
Issue: Border Security and Immigration Reform
“I don’t think the problem of illegal immigration will ever be solved until we have a healthy, thriving economy.”
The talk must stop.
We must secure our borders now.
A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked.
This is my six point plan:

Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
Enforce visa rules.
Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law.
This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
No amnesty.
Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.

No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.

End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.

Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation.
This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.
©2008 Ron Paul 2008 PCC Paid for by the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign Committee

As to "the dope", here's a blurb of his position.
You can go to his web site to read more if you can manage.

"In cases where patients are not high profile celebrities like Mr. Limbaugh, it is pain management physicians who bear the brunt of overzealous prosecutors. Faced with the failure of the war on drugs to eliminate drug cartels and kingpins, prosecutors and police have turned their attention to pain management doctors, using federal statutes designed for the prosecution of drug dealers to prosecute physicians for prescribing pain medicine."


You can always be counted on to never let facts or thought get in between you and the keyboard.
:lol:

BlueShoe
06-26-2008, 08:39 PM
A mature remark was made recently by former Maryland lieutenent governor Michael Steele about Obamas run for the White House.Mr. Steele is considered to be a leading Black Conservative with a bright futture and occasionally appears on Fox News.He said that while he is pround to see a Black man advance this far,"that said,I intend to do everything in my power to defeat him,and see to it he does not become president".Well said Mr. Steele.

Lefty
06-26-2008, 08:45 PM
I greatly admire Michael Steele and would vote for him a millisecond if he were running.

HUSKER55
06-27-2008, 12:07 AM
ddog, you just proved my point.

thank you

Lefty
06-27-2008, 01:04 AM
ddog, he's supposed to be a libertararan is he not? Reread my post. I said libertarians blve in open borders and dope. Maybe the fool doesn't know what the hell he is. But the point is moot.
Your choice is between Mcain or Obama. Realistically that is.

PaceAdvantage
06-27-2008, 02:48 AM
mr. obama claims he is a religious man, i suppose he will get a few replican evagelical votes that way,
i suspect not enough to get elected though.Holy Bat Shit! Now being RELIGIOUS is OK? I thought religion was OUT!

Bush was highly criticized throughout his two terms for being some sort of crazed religious man who would bring about a THEOCRACY to these United States. Christians were/are being blamed for EVERYTHING under the sun these days during the Bush tenure...

But now, now that Obama says he's religious, NOW it's OK to be religious again. It's OK to say that your FAITH will play a role in your PUBLIC POLICY decisions.

To recap:

Bush faith injected into public policy = BAD LUNATIC THEOCRACY

Obama faith injected into public policy = GOOD SOUND MORAL GENTLE HUMAN BEING CHRIST-LIKE SAVIOR OF HOPE AND SOFT FUZZY ANIMALS


I give up. :faint:

JustRalph
06-27-2008, 05:07 AM
Holy Bat Shit! Now being RELIGIOUS is OK? I thought religion was OUT!

Bush was highly criticized throughout his two terms for being some sort of crazed religious man who would bring about a THEOCRACY to these United States. Christians were/are being blamed for EVERYTHING under the sun these days during the Bush tenure...

But now, now that Obama says he's religious, NOW it's OK to be religious again. It's OK to say that your FAITH will play a role in your PUBLIC POLICY decisions.

To recap:

Bush faith injected into public policy = BAD LUNATIC THEOCRACY

Obama faith injected into public policy = GOOD SOUND MORAL GENTLE HUMAN BEING CHRIST-LIKE SAVIOR OF HOPE AND SOFT FUZZY ANIMALS


I give up. :faint:

This cracks me up............ now we need a messiah with religion just to round out the picture.............. I know what his religion is..........for 20 years he attended a church........and I think I have a handle on it...........

ddog
06-27-2008, 09:09 AM
ddog, you just proved my point.

thank you


for your sake I WISH you had made one.

:lol:

ddog
06-27-2008, 09:11 AM
ddog, he's supposed to be a libertararan is he not? Reread my post. I said libertarians blve in open borders and dope. Maybe the fool doesn't know what the hell he is. But the point is moot.
Your choice is between Mcain or Obama. Realistically that is.


Lefty, nice try , but you need to bring "some" facts with you sometimes just for a change of pace.

No , you don't get to make anyone elses choice for them , you commie shlub!

Like I try to point out to you, your small minded labels don't reflect anything of reality.


:lol:

applebee
06-27-2008, 05:13 PM
if Obama gets elected Black Americans lose the ability to pull out their racist cards.:jump:

JustRalph
06-27-2008, 06:27 PM
if Obama gets elected Black Americans lose the ability to pull out their racist cards.:jump:


I actually heard a black professor on CNN say that this wouldn't be true because Obama doesn't have any "real slave blood" in him. He says Obama is just as much white as he is black, so it doesn't count............

He also says that Obama's Momma's family owned slaves..........so it doesn't count???????/

Tom
06-27-2008, 09:08 PM
if Obama gets elected Black Americans lose the ability to pull out their racist cards.:jump:

With a hand like this one, I'm going to go "FISH!"
Ya got to know when to fold'em!
kn481KcjvMo

aspireadream
06-28-2008, 12:55 AM
White or black, I don't find anything appealing about Osamabama. He won't protect our nation, and if he is elected, we'll probably end up like a 3rd-world country, riding bicycles everywhere. The only people with guns will be the criminals. He says we drive our SUVs and keep our houses at a comfortable 72 degrees, and that other countries are not "ok" with that. I don't really care what other countries are "ok" with, as far as that goes. So, to answer your question, no, I am not a racist. Why won't Powell or Rice run? I'd seriously consider voting for either of them because 1. they have experience 2. they are extremely intelligent 3. they have class...something Osamabama and his "baby mama" seem to lack. Give me a ballot with Powell or Rice v. John Kerry, Al Gore, John Edwards, or either Clinton, and I would not hesitate to vote Powell or Rice. It is about ideals, not color.

dav4463
06-28-2008, 03:08 AM
I think Obama is the racist and he did all his praying in a racist church.

jcrabboy
06-28-2008, 03:16 PM
Obama people are saying that whites who won't vote for Obama are racists. How do you feel about that?

Hi King Ritchie:

Obama People. I guess they must be a communist threat.

Where the hell do you get your info? CRACKER DIGEST. It is simply ludicrous.

If you are going to post something like this, show a link to the direct quote.

Obama's no great shakes, but he is not out to alienate a large segment of the voting population.

This is in keeping with your Democrats are communists rants. Even ex fat ass Rush Limburgher wouldn't touch some of the crap you post.

Both candidates suck and it is easy enough to find actual verbal gaffs without resorting to hearsay and halfassed Swiftboating.

Jimmie