A Serious Political Discussion

[King Ritchie]

I came across the following article:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/the_audacity_of_the_democrats.html

If I were a writer I couldn't have said it any better and I believe in over 95% of the material presented here.

I would like to get people's perspective of this article.

I am a conservative or maybe a constitutionalist. I am an American. I believe in our founding fathers. I love this country. I am not far-right. I am willing to listen to reasonable people, however, I just don't understand the far-left and their hatred of this country. In regard to this article I would like to understand how others see this. Do the democrats believe what was written here to be true? If not, then what is wrong with the article?

[ddog]

you won't find it in there, that's for sure.

[ddog]

http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=171135

[JustRalph]

That's not an article, it's a friggin book.


I agree with the first 1500 words........but I gave up after that.

[HUSKER55]

Somehow, men ceased being men in America. We should have said NO along time ago and nobody did anything. Values were assaulted, laws were assulted and even the Christian Religion and nobody did anything but play word games.

Now it is time to put up or shut up.

I still maintain that the lawyers, judges and politicians need to be hit hard. But how is anybody going to stop what has started now?

Obama is a joke but, the scum of the earth is going to get him elected. Just you watch.

McCain is the last hope, if he is elected, which means there is 8 years to solve the problem.

Any ideas??

[wonatthewire1]

Somehow, men ceased being men in America. We should have said NO along time ago and nobody did anything. Values were assaulted, laws were assulted and even the Christian Religion and nobody did anything but play word games.

Now it is time to put up or shut up.

I still maintain that the lawyers, judges and politicians need to be hit hard. But how is anybody going to stop what has started now?

Obama is a joke but, the scum of the earth is going to get him elected. Just you watch.

McCain is the last hope, if he is elected, which means there is 8 years to solve the problem.

Any ideas??

Belgium

My first choice was Finland, but then I remembered the winter there! (unless you know one of the locals of the opposite *** :D

[46zilzal]

Belgium

My first choice was Finland, but then I remembered the winter there! (unless you know one of the locals of the opposite
Good choices both....

[NJ Stinks]

I stopped reading when I got to this sentence: "George W. Bush had become an extraordinarily popular president."

Americans came together after 9-11. Who the president was at that time was inconsequential in this regard IMO.

The only thing I ever found extraordinary about GWB was that he got a second term.

In short, unlike King Ritchie, I'm not buying what Rocco's selling.

[JustRalph]

I stopped reading when I got to this sentence: "George W. Bush had become an extraordinarily popular president."

Americans came together after 9-11. Who the president was at that time was inconsequential in this regard IMO.

The only thing I ever found extraordinary about GWB was that he got a second term.

In short, unlike King Ritchie, I'm not buying what Rocco's selling.

you ignore much in ignoring the article. You can disagree with part of the article but to 'stop reading" where you proclaim because of Bush, reeks of Bush Derangement syndrome.

You wholesale denial based a few lines makes me want to go back and finish the article...................... off I go

[JustRalph]

It's a good piece, but Damn it's long!!

He could have cut it up into a few different articles.

[riskman]

Americans hear about nation building in Iraq and Afghanistan, and they ask for it back home, in storm- and flood- and fire-ravaged cities in the south and west and in the heartland. Americans hear about roads and bridges being constructed and repaired abroad, and they’d like to see our tax dollars at home working on those exact same projects. Americans hear about the so-called security services our troops provide overseas, and they’d like to see that security applied at our ports and on our borders, even in our troubled urban areas. When Americans are told that they must wait for this kind of nation-building and security at home because our economy is in a tailspin, our government is broke, and the two primary political parties have matching unconstitutional war agendas, they begin to understand the nature of centralized unaccountable government. And they inherently despise it. :jump: :jump:

If one considers the economic policies of the main contenders for king of the empire, we find hard-core socialism offered by Obama.

The Club for Growth said, "Senator McCain’s eager embrace of grossly inaccurate class-warfare demagoguery demonstrated, at best, a painful ignorance of pro-growth economic principles." Bob Barr’s run for President as a libertarian offers some hope – his economic platform is based on reduced federal spending and corporate welfare, and sadly, replacing the income tax with a national sales tax. But only when you look under the issue of individual liberty on Barr’s website do you see veiled reference to unfettered capitalism, and then only if you use your imagination.
Unless unfettered capitalism prevails, we will not have a republic. In its place, we will have a contracted empire, replaced by a large socialist corpse. Many throughout the country, and around the world, worry that America has adopted a form of national socialism, even as we wave the tattered flag of a constitutional republic, and spout endlessly the verbiage of freedom. If we are to be republicans living in a republic, we must preserve and defend unfettered capitalism, and be prepared to fight for it.

[46zilzal]

QUOTE:Unless unfettered capitalism prevails, we will not have a republic.

That is one of the many reasons the place is falling apart today.

[riskman]

QUOTE:Unless unfettered capitalism prevails, we will not have a republic.

That is one of the many reasons the place is falling apart today.


Let the chips fall.The spirit of mutiny – is more necessary than ever. It is one thing to recognize and understand what is happening; it is another to actually live and work freely, to loudly challenge statist stupidity wherever it is found.

[PaceAdvantage]

It's not that long of an article, but it is an interesting and well framed piece. It just seems super-long because there are a ton of comments at the end....

[JustRalph]

if you are going to quote something from the net verbatim, you might want to fill us all in by providing a link so we can read it in context.



Tolstoy's Majority
by Karen Kwiatkowski
http://www.lewrockwell.com/kwiatkowski/kwiatkowski204.html

Americans hear about nation building in Iraq and Afghanistan, and they ask for it back home, in storm- and flood- and fire-ravaged cities in the south and west and in the heartland. Americans hear about roads and bridges being constructed and repaired abroad, and they’d like to see our tax dollars at home working on those exact same projects. Americans hear about the so-called security services our troops provide overseas, and they’d like to see that security applied at our ports and on our borders, even in our troubled urban areas. When Americans are told that they must wait for this kind of nation-building and security at home because our economy is in a tailspin, our government is broke, and the two primary political parties have matching unconstitutional war agendas, they begin to understand the nature of centralized unaccountable government. And they inherently despise it. :jump: :jump:

If one considers the economic policies of the main contenders for king of the empire, we find hard-core socialism offered by Obama.

The Club for Growth said, "Senator McCain’s eager embrace of grossly inaccurate class-warfare demagoguery demonstrated, at best, a painful ignorance of pro-growth economic principles." Bob Barr’s run for President as a libertarian offers some hope – his economic platform is based on reduced federal spending and corporate welfare, and sadly, replacing the income tax with a national sales tax. But only when you look under the issue of individual liberty on Barr’s website do you see veiled reference to unfettered capitalism, and then only if you use your imagination.
Unless unfettered capitalism prevails, we will not have a republic. In its place, we will have a contracted empire, replaced by a large socialist corpse. Many throughout the country, and around the world, worry that America has adopted a form of national socialism, even as we wave the tattered flag of a constitutional republic, and spout endlessly the verbiage of freedom. If we are to be republicans living in a republic, we must preserve and defend unfettered capitalism, and be prepared to fight for it.

[hcap]

you ignore much in ignoring the article. You can disagree with part of the article but to 'stop reading" where you proclaim because of Bush, reeks of Bush Derangement syndrome. BDS? Ah,the last refuge of the dying 25 percenters. BDS could be real. On the other hand, paranoia is not paranoia if someone is really out to get you.

[hcap]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/from/ET/

"Not a scientific survey. Results may not total 100% due to rounding" :rolleyes:

Maybe all these 600,000 all have BDS.

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 659338 responses
Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
89%
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4.1%
No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
4.6%
I don't know.
2%

[Tom]

"Not a scientific survey......says it all.

What's next, "Two out of three guys sitting at the bar feel that....." :rolleyes:

Put that one in your Poll Vault.

[hcap]

INPITAROTGY syndrome

It's Not Paranoia If They Are Really Out To Get You

Or the rational basis for BDS :jump:

[Tom]

SPWTFH

Some
People
Wear
Tin
Foil
Hats

[hcap]

"Not a scientific survey......says it all.

What's next, "Two out of three guys sitting at the bar feel that....." :rolleyes:

Put that one in your Poll Vault.You don't really need science to feel the knife. Next time you are disemboweled get a panel of Doctors to calculate where your guts used to be. All scientific like.

[hcap]

SPWTFH

Some
People
Wear
Tin
Foil
HatsYeah like the 25 percenters who still support George W. Churchill :lol: :bang: :eek:

[ddog]

it's not serious anything.
even if you grant all in it is someone's version of truth there are so many statements that are only personal opinion and outright pander-bear stuff that "serious" discussion is not possible starting from a screed like that.

you really are not looking for serious discussion when you call all that don't agree or fit your mold traitors and worse at the git-go.

the founders would not reconigze the state he seems to want to bring about.

[PaceAdvantage]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/from/ET/

:rolleyes:

Maybe all these 600,000 all have BDS.

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 659338 responses
Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
89%
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4.1%
No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
4.6%
I don't know.
2%Dude, you are way too funny. Actually posting this as if it means something. As if MSNBC is fair and balanced. As if those poll options aren't incredibly bent towards one side. As if that poll doesn't prevent someone from voting over and over and over again....probably via some software program sitting on the MoveOn/Soros servers....

And for your information, it's 28%, not 25%.....:lol:

[ezpace]

a unique craving to read PA off topic POLItickshun discussions... SLAP!!!!!