Figures for 6/7/08 [Archive] - Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com

JoeG

06-07-2008, 12:50 PM

Here's some projected figures for today's races.

Freehold:

Date Track Race PP Horse Fig Spd
6/7/08 FHL 1 8 BRICKYARD NA NA
6/7/08 FHL 1 6 GRAB YOUR 92.8 94
6/7/08 FHL 1 7 VIEW TO A 86.0 91
6/7/08 FHL 1 2 PJF 83.0 91
6/7/08 FHL 1 5 NICODEMUS 80.1 82
6/7/08 FHL 1 1 SWIFT SPOR 75.5 79
6/7/08 FHL 1 4 ROY WINTER 75.3 82
6/7/08 FHL 1 3 MAKIN A BE 74.6 78
6/7/08 FHL 2 7 LAST RESOR NA NA
6/7/08 FHL 2 6 LEGAL TROU 76.3 77
6/7/08 FHL 2 2 BUGS BOY 72.8 78
6/7/08 FHL 2 3 CHICORY MA 70.0 70
6/7/08 FHL 2 5 BOBBYCROMB 69.6 71
6/7/08 FHL 2 8 MYSTICAL S 67.4 71
6/7/08 FHL 2 4 C-G MAYNAR 67.2 72
6/7/08 FHL 2 1 POKER OAK 63.8 70
6/7/08 FHL 3 7 JEREMY 79.0 86
6/7/08 FHL 3 1 PACIFIC DE 78.8 82
6/7/08 FHL 3 6 PRINCE OLY 77.0 84
6/7/08 FHL 3 2 NO TEARS H 76.8 81
6/7/08 FHL 3 3 BJ'S ZEPHY 75.7 78
6/7/08 FHL 3 4 SEIZE THE 73.0 76
6/7/08 FHL 3 5 CHEYENNE B 66.6 71
6/7/08 FHL 3 8 BLACKEYEDC 61.9 73
6/7/08 FHL 4 7 B TOMM 92.3 94
6/7/08 FHL 4 2 SHINING JE 91.0 92
6/7/08 FHL 4 3 MOODY BLUE 90.3 93
6/7/08 FHL 4 5 FOX VALLEY 84.3 89
6/7/08 FHL 4 1 CANNAE CAN 83.4 87
6/7/08 FHL 4 6 VILAS BLUE 81.2 84
6/7/08 FHL 4 4 TRULY CAML 49.0 79
6/7/08 FHL 5 3 WAY OF LIF NA NA
6/7/08 FHL 5 2 THE BARON 91.1 94
6/7/08 FHL 5 4 FIRM WOODY 91.1 92
6/7/08 FHL 5 7 JESSICAS P 90.5 95
6/7/08 FHL 5 8 READY FOR 88.3 90
6/7/08 FHL 5 6 JOHNNY BAN 87.6 91
6/7/08 FHL 5 1 MAGIC DANC 83.7 90
6/7/08 FHL 5 5 RICHESSLIT 79.1 84
6/7/08 FHL 6 2 WHITESAND NA 98
6/7/08 FHL 6 3 PERDITION 101.0 103
6/7/08 FHL 6 7 WESLEY SNI 98.5 102
6/7/08 FHL 6 4 KENNANS JO 97.6 103
6/7/08 FHL 6 1 RAMBLIN BU 96.4 99
6/7/08 FHL 6 6 SHOTGUN A 94.6 98
6/7/08 FHL 6 5 STOPWATCH 93.1 96
6/7/08 FHL 7 1 OUR GIRLS 93.6 98
6/7/08 FHL 7 5 J K PURE P 91.6 102
6/7/08 FHL 7 4 WESTERN SC 91.3 94
6/7/08 FHL 7 2 IN THE CRE 88.1 93
6/7/08 FHL 7 6 DONTTELLME 87.8 93
6/7/08 FHL 7 3 PILGRIMS W 86.0 92
6/7/08 FHL 8 1 SAND HILL NA NA
6/7/08 FHL 8 6 COLE HAND NA NA
6/7/08 FHL 8 2 SINGLEMALT 85.8 89
6/7/08 FHL 8 8 P H SUPER 82.6 85
6/7/08 FHL 8 4 MAIN INTEN 81.6 84
6/7/08 FHL 8 3 ODE TO WIL 78.2 85
6/7/08 FHL 8 7 GLOSSY N 77.7 84
6/7/08 FHL 8 5 CHARLIE'S 71.3 81
6/7/08 FHL 9 5 BESMO 92.5 94
6/7/08 FHL 9 7 CAMBUSTION 90.4 94
6/7/08 FHL 9 4 LIFEISCAPE 88.2 90
6/7/08 FHL 9 1 COLORADO C 82.6 88
6/7/08 FHL 9 2 ISLAND ZOR 80.8 88
6/7/08 FHL 9 6 SCOOTERSLA 80.7 85
6/7/08 FHL 9 3 AFTER LIFE 77.3 86
6/7/08 FHL 10 7 FLAK JACKE NA 55
6/7/08 FHL 10 8 PASS THE D 91.8 96
6/7/08 FHL 10 5 HEZ DA MAN 91.0 94
6/7/08 FHL 10 1 FINE-TUNER 90.6 92
6/7/08 FHL 10 6 BORILLA 88.8 94
6/7/08 FHL 10 2 KINGS POIN 84.8 90
6/7/08 FHL 10 3 YOUR EXCEL 79.6 90
6/7/08 FHL 10 4 SPIRIT INM 74.8 82
6/7/08 FHL 11 5 JUNE'S SUN NA NA
6/7/08 FHL 11 4 ESCAPEFROM NA 101
6/7/08 FHL 11 8 DEUCES AND 91.4 93
6/7/08 FHL 11 2 BLUE CHIP 86.8 92
6/7/08 FHL 11 6 SPRING ALO 83.6 89
6/7/08 FHL 11 1 TWINSCAPE 81.3 87
6/7/08 FHL 11 7 SOUNDS LIK 80.9 83
6/7/08 FHL 11 3 PHIZZBEAU 79.2 85
6/7/08 FHL 12 7 BROOKLYN P 83.8 85
6/7/08 FHL 12 5 MR LOVE JO 78.8 80
6/7/08 FHL 12 1 PRINCE OF 76.0 78
6/7/08 FHL 12 3 BRING THE 74.4 77
6/7/08 FHL 12 8 GRAMPAS GR 74.3 75
6/7/08 FHL 12 2 LETS HAVE 72.3 75
6/7/08 FHL 12 6 HEARTY VIN 71.6 74
6/7/08 FHL 12 4 RETIREMENT 71.2 74

JoeG

06-07-2008, 01:47 PM

Date Track Race PP Horse Fig Spd
6/7/08 PCD 2 1 FIVE SOMEW 103.1 106
6/7/08 PCD 2 5 THEE TOWN 97.3 99
6/7/08 PCD 2 7 PLAY FOR S 96.3 99
6/7/08 PCD 2 3 THE FAKER 94.5 96
6/7/08 PCD 2 6 THE SKYLIG 94.2 97
6/7/08 PCD 2 2 RASCAL BLU 92.3 96
6/7/08 PCD 2 4 IMPERIEUX 91.8 97
6/7/08 PCD 3 7 STAR MAJOR 79.5 83
6/7/08 PCD 3 8 PIZZA JOE 79.0 83
6/7/08 PCD 3 6 SARGENT MA 78.0 82
6/7/08 PCD 3 4 THOM CAT 74.3 81
6/7/08 PCD 3 2 WALLY WEST 72.6 74
6/7/08 PCD 3 1 KID CURRY 50.4 66
6/7/08 PCD 3 5 VITA SIMBO 0.0 83
6/7/08 PCD 4 9 MYSTRA 85.6 89
6/7/08 PCD 4 1 BIG LEAG'I 82.0 84
6/7/08 PCD 4 5 JAZZY ART' 82.0 87
6/7/08 PCD 4 4 CELERITER 80.8 83
6/7/08 PCD 4 8 CANNAE COM 78.0 81
6/7/08 PCD 4 3 CATHY - D 70.4 75
6/7/08 PCD 4 7 NIGHT AND 69.6 79
6/7/08 PCD 4 2 MS MAE WES 68.8 78
6/7/08 PCD 4 6 CATCH A BR 63.8 78
6/7/08 PCD 5 6 WESTERN AR 98.0 100
6/7/08 PCD 5 3 PATCH ADAM 97.0 99
6/7/08 PCD 5 5 HATIES JIM 96.8 99
6/7/08 PCD 5 1 CAJUN MOON 95.7 98
6/7/08 PCD 5 2 YANKEE SYM 95.2 98
6/7/08 PCD 5 7 SOUTHWIND 92.9 98
6/7/08 PCD 5 4 KURT RUSTL 91.7 97
6/7/08 PCD 7 3 LOVING CAR 90.1 92
6/7/08 PCD 7 5 WOMAN REBE 89.3 99
6/7/08 PCD 7 2 SEE AND BE 87.0 89
6/7/08 PCD 7 6 ARTEXPRESS 83.3 93
6/7/08 PCD 7 1 GENTLE ART 83.0 87
6/7/08 PCD 7 7 RUSTY AGAI 73.6 90
6/7/08 PCD 7 4 PAVLA HANO 0.0 96
6/7/08 PCD 8 8 LOOK AT ME 102.0 106
6/7/08 PCD 8 2 BULLVILLE 100.4 105
6/7/08 PCD 8 1 FUN TIME 100.3 105
6/7/08 PCD 8 4 SKELETON K 98.2 104
6/7/08 PCD 8 9 LIGHT AND 95.4 98
6/7/08 PCD 8 7 ODDS ON B 94.6 100
6/7/08 PCD 8 3 MAHDI 94.4 98
6/7/08 PCD 8 6 ARMBRO CAY 94.4 98
6/7/08 PCD 8 5 SARATOGA J 0.0 0
6/7/08 PCD 9 5 TWIN OAKS 87.4 90
6/7/08 PCD 9 3 EARLY MORN 87.2 93
6/7/08 PCD 9 7 CHERRY BOM 85.5 90
6/7/08 PCD 9 6 SAND PLEAS 85.3 87
6/7/08 PCD 9 4 RESPECTABL 84.5 93
6/7/08 PCD 9 2 LIGHTNING 0.0 86
6/7/08 PCD 9 1 MOZZI HANO 0.0 0
6/7/08 PCD 10 2 NOBLE'S GR 109.2 110
6/7/08 PCD 10 3 CHEYENNE B 97.1 98
6/7/08 PCD 10 1 SILVER DRA 96.8 98
6/7/08 PCD 10 8 EXACTORMAN 96.3 97
6/7/08 PCD 10 5 JELLIS AS 93.9 98
6/7/08 PCD 10 4 CARDMASTER 93.3 96
6/7/08 PCD 10 6 SQUAW'S EB 93.1 97
6/7/08 PCD 10 9 PILGRIMS T 90.3 93
6/7/08 PCD 10 7 RENDAROSA 68.8 87
6/7/08 PCD 11 7 NATIVE BRI 92.6 98
6/7/08 PCD 11 3 REAL NASTY 88.4 91
6/7/08 PCD 11 5 IDEAL NEWT 88.0 95
6/7/08 PCD 11 4 FIDDLE ROS 87.6 89
6/7/08 PCD 11 2 ALICE'S RE 82.8 90
6/7/08 PCD 11 6 BON MOT 82.1 92
6/7/08 PCD 11 1 WILD WEST 81.0 88
6/7/08 PCD 12 6 CANNAE PRI 92.1 93
6/7/08 PCD 12 1 TRAZ 87.4 89
6/7/08 PCD 12 7 AINTSHENIC 87.0 90
6/7/08 PCD 12 9 AN ORIGINA 86.8 88
6/7/08 PCD 12 5 SWEET TEMP 83.8 87
6/7/08 PCD 12 3 QUICK QUES 81.0 83
6/7/08 PCD 12 4 SHIVA MAST 74.8 79
6/7/08 PCD 12 8 GRACEFUL A 74.7 79
6/7/08 PCD 12 2 MISS KITTY 72.0 78
6/7/08 PCD 14 3 DIAMOND DA 106.2 109
6/7/08 PCD 14 7 RIDGELINE 100.9 107
6/7/08 PCD 14 2 THAT'S JUS 97.9 102
6/7/08 PCD 14 9 REAL MYSTI 97.2 100
6/7/08 PCD 14 1 SAHARA HAL 96.7 99
6/7/08 PCD 14 5 BULLVILLEI 95.5 99
6/7/08 PCD 14 4 SOUTH PARK 95.5 99
6/7/08 PCD 14 6 BROADWAY J 95.1 100
6/7/08 PCD 14 8 DEVILFISH 91.0 102
6/7/08 PCD 15 6 DUKE DID I 101.8 103
6/7/08 PCD 15 7 ARMBRO CHI 96.6 99
6/7/08 PCD 15 5 MR RESTRIC 95.0 97
6/7/08 PCD 15 1 THE REAL D 94.6 97
6/7/08 PCD 15 3 TILT YA KI 94.6 97
6/7/08 PCD 15 8 JACCKA TUR 88.0 97
6/7/08 PCD 15 9 ANDY ROO 87.7 93
6/7/08 PCD 15 4 COPPERTONE 82.4 88
6/7/08 PCD 15 2 TRUE MAGIC 0.0 0

Ray2000

06-07-2008, 02:04 PM

Joe

I've looked over some of your posts from way back but can't find any reference to your projected figs and spd.

Mind telling us relatively new guys how they differ ?

Are you generating them from your program and Simubet?

thanx in advance

Ray

JoeG

06-07-2008, 02:46 PM

Ray:

These are 90% derived from Simubet with a slight assist from me. Works decently on Pace races at many tracks, especially Mohawk, MR, FHL, CHST, YR. The Fig is a projected figure (leans more toward recent races). Speed is a recent and/or average figure.

I normally use something different but had an issue with my database so I brought this one out from the mothballs this week. Mohawk killed last night while BigM stunk.

JoeG

06-07-2008, 02:49 PM

Not the best track to play but here are some figs:

Date Track Race PP Horse Fig Spd
6/7/08 NP 1 2 VAL QUINTO 72.2 75
6/7/08 NP 1 3 NEVER SKIP 67.8 69
6/7/08 NP 1 4 FIDDLIN PH 60.8 65
6/7/08 NP 1 6 PRAIRIE DR 60.3 72
6/7/08 NP 1 1 STRANGE MA 56.0 62
6/7/08 NP 1 5 POWER MAID 54.6 69
6/7/08 NP 1 7 G TS DILLI 42.7 51
6/7/08 NP 2 4 QUEENS LAC 71.1 72
6/7/08 NP 2 1 COGNITO PR 68.4 71
6/7/08 NP 2 7 LOVETOBEFR 63.5 67
6/7/08 NP 2 2 SENGA SANT 63.1 66
6/7/08 NP 2 6 CHUCKS DYN 60.9 68
6/7/08 NP 2 3 BARONA GAL 53.4 56
6/7/08 NP 2 5 REMINISCIN 44.9 59
6/7/08 NP 2 8 FLYING VEN 0.0 0
6/7/08 NP 3 5 ACES N DRE 71.0 71
6/7/08 NP 3 2 JOBY CHUNG 69.0 69
6/7/08 NP 3 8 KG EXPLORE 67.0 67
6/7/08 NP 3 1 LAP YA 61.8 67
6/7/08 NP 3 3 PTCHEYCONC 55.2 58
6/7/08 NP 3 6 PROMISE N 55.0 59
6/7/08 NP 4 2 KG WARRIOR 96.4 100
6/7/08 NP 4 6 WRANGLER M 96.3 98
6/7/08 NP 4 4 EL RANCHO 94.0 97
6/7/08 NP 4 3 CLASSY CHA 93.3 100
6/7/08 NP 4 1 TONKA TIK 91.0 91
6/7/08 NP 4 5 KG MATTATT 86.3 96
6/7/08 NP 5 3 THE CANDY 89.4 92
6/7/08 NP 5 2 RAYS EDGE 85.7 90
6/7/08 NP 5 1 CIGAR HALL 85.3 87
6/7/08 NP 5 4 RAYDAR MAV 83.2 87
6/7/08 NP 5 8 AMERICAN J 81.0 81
6/7/08 NP 5 7 OUTLAW BET 80.0 80
6/7/08 NP 5 9 DOUBLE TOU 76.2 79
6/7/08 NP 5 5 SPOOKTACUL 0.0 0
6/7/08 NP 5 6 KILLEAN CU 0.0 0
6/7/08 NP 6 2 DOOBER HOO 93.2 96
6/7/08 NP 6 4 MJJZ JOY 87.8 89
6/7/08 NP 6 1 CENTENNIAL 85.2 87
6/7/08 NP 6 5 WATCHASGIR 79.5 84
6/7/08 NP 6 3 ROSSRIDGE 76.4 79
6/7/08 NP 7 6 A PS MONEY 94.4 97
6/7/08 NP 7 1 WEAREVERIG 81.6 87
6/7/08 NP 7 4 THE BIG SL 78.4 82
6/7/08 NP 7 2 BLUE STAR 76.0 76
6/7/08 NP 7 5 WEST ATTIT 74.5 78
6/7/08 NP 7 3 SILVER PRI 0.0 0
6/7/08 NP 8 2 LUCKY JENN 90.2 91
6/7/08 NP 8 1 DOMESTIC B 86.8 88
6/7/08 NP 8 6 HARMONY OA 86.2 89
6/7/08 NP 8 5 SINISTER S 85.6 87
6/7/08 NP 8 7 DANCE HALL 85.3 91
6/7/08 NP 8 8 IDLE PROMI 84.6 90
6/7/08 NP 8 3 SHIRLEY HA 84.2 87
6/7/08 NP 8 4 LUCKS PLEA 83.9 90
6/7/08 NP 8 9 R B ETHEL 83.0 83
6/7/08 NP 9 4 SCHMOKIN S 88.9 93
6/7/08 NP 9 2 LUCKYS LIL 86.8 90
6/7/08 NP 9 3 NAMEDBYFRE 85.1 93
6/7/08 NP 9 1 THIEF ON T 85.0 85
6/7/08 NP 9 7 MOON ROCK 83.3 85
6/7/08 NP 9 5 RAIL BARON 82.2 85
6/7/08 NP 9 6 GOGO FAME 79.4 102
6/7/08 NP 9 8 CR BESTOFT 78.1 85
6/7/08 NP 9 9 COME WEST 76.1 85
6/7/08 NP 10 6 TAJMA HALL 108.2 112
6/7/08 NP 10 5 SKIP TO MY 103.2 105
6/7/08 NP 10 7 TRUST THE 103.2 108
6/7/08 NP 10 1A RAINING AG 102.9 108
6/7/08 NP 10 2 SHANE HALL 101.9 107
6/7/08 NP 10 3 TYBER KING 100.3 102
6/7/08 NP 10 4 CANACO NOL 100.0 105
6/7/08 NP 10 1 OVERCARD 98.2 101
6/7/08 NP 11 4 OSCARS PAS 76.4 79
6/7/08 NP 11 9 DEMI GLOSS 76.2 79
6/7/08 NP 11 5 RICH CACHE 76.0 78
6/7/08 NP 11 1 FINISH HIG 75.3 77
6/7/08 NP 11 6 MATTABBLE 73.0 73
6/7/08 NP 11 2 PRAIRIE MA 69.0 73
6/7/08 NP 11 3 JENNA DARL 68.8 74
6/7/08 NP 11 8 AIR FORCE 58.1 68
6/7/08 NP 11 7 MILLWOOD D 55.1 62

Ray2000

06-07-2008, 02:56 PM

I subscribed to simubet for over a year and found it works best for me when it agrees with me on straight exactas.

I used it for deciding my wager size

Thanks for the reply

Ray

headhawg

06-07-2008, 03:29 PM

Thanks Joe. Good to see a post from you. Quit taking so long between them. :)

spicytomato

06-07-2008, 04:38 PM

if you happen to have any for yonkers i would appreciate the view

ive been thinking of playing them tonight

thanks
:)

JoeG

06-07-2008, 05:38 PM

Date Track Race PP Horse Fig Spd
6/7/08 YR 1 8 TUFF E NUF 99.5 101
6/7/08 YR 1 2 RAPID CITY 94.9 96
6/7/08 YR 1 4 FLIRTIN FO 94.2 96
6/7/08 YR 1 7 SIDEREAL H 93.2 97
6/7/08 YR 1 6 TALK FOREV 92.7 96
6/7/08 YR 1 3 HANDSOME J 92.7 97
6/7/08 YR 1 1 KDK BELLAG 91.1 95
6/7/08 YR 1 5 PREMIER PR 90.6 96
6/7/08 YR 2 2 BOO YAH 96.4 102
6/7/08 YR 2 7 JUMPIN JAC 92.4 95
6/7/08 YR 2 8 DAVE AINT 92.2 95
6/7/08 YR 2 3 HEIDI'S DA 89.2 94
6/7/08 YR 2 6 MOLSAM I A 87.9 95
6/7/08 YR 2 5 CITY GUY 87.2 92
6/7/08 YR 2 4 ARISTIDE D 84.1 91
6/7/08 YR 2 1 OIL MAGNET 83.6 88
6/7/08 YR 3 4 SPANK ME F 93.9 94
6/7/08 YR 3 6 FOUR STARZ 92.6 95
6/7/08 YR 3 1 DESERT SIG 91.6 94
6/7/08 YR 3 8 ROMAN PUNC 91.1 94
6/7/08 YR 3 2 REALIST HA 90.8 95
6/7/08 YR 3 5 INDEED ONE 89.0 92
6/7/08 YR 3 7 BJ'S TSUNA 85.8 90
6/7/08 YR 3 3 FAKE EMBRA 83.4 90
6/7/08 YR 4 6 JAKE OF DI 95.0 97
6/7/08 YR 4 4 SUPREME ED 94.6 96
6/7/08 YR 4 7 CAUSEWAY G 94.2 96
6/7/08 YR 4 3 THE MAGIC 93.6 99
6/7/08 YR 4 1 WINSLOW DR 92.6 98
6/7/08 YR 4 5 MEDOLAND M 90.7 95
6/7/08 YR 4 2 FLIGHT SIG 83.6 90
6/7/08 YR 5 4 SUSUMNA 94.8 97
6/7/08 YR 5 6 PHARM REVI 93.1 98
6/7/08 YR 5 2 NO FREE PA 92.4 96
6/7/08 YR 5 7 SLY GRIN N 91.8 94
6/7/08 YR 5 5 DOINKS BEL 91.4 94
6/7/08 YR 5 1 MEANTNODIS 89.6 95
6/7/08 YR 5 8 FIVE CARD 87.7 93
6/7/08 YR 5 3 YETTY 83.8 91
6/7/08 YR 6 4 AMERICAN L 93.6 98
6/7/08 YR 6 5 NO MORE GO 88.8 92
6/7/08 YR 6 6 ARMBRO BAR 84.0 89
6/7/08 YR 6 3 I'M A SAKR 80.5 84
6/7/08 YR 6 2 UNSER DIAM 78.5 80
6/7/08 YR 6 1 GRECALE AS 73.6 79
6/7/08 YR 7 6 IMAGE OF D 99.9 103
6/7/08 YR 7 1 TENANT IN 99.4 102
6/7/08 YR 7 4 IDEAL MICH 98.6 105
6/7/08 YR 7 8 STONEBRIDG 93.3 95
6/7/08 YR 7 7 JOMARY 92.4 97
6/7/08 YR 7 3 SOUTHWIND 85.8 92
6/7/08 YR 7 5 SOUTHWIND 84.0 91
6/7/08 YR 7 2 BOMBER MAC 0.0 0
6/7/08 YR 8 3 POKER HAT 98.4 99
6/7/08 YR 8 6 LUCKY BETT 97.3 107
6/7/08 YR 8 5 WESTERN PR 97.1 98
6/7/08 YR 8 2 LESTERS WE 96.5 98
6/7/08 YR 8 1 NON COMMIT 95.9 101
6/7/08 YR 8 4 LET'S ROLL 95.8 100
6/7/08 YR 9 7 SYMPHONY I 108.8 110
6/7/08 YR 9 5 BENEAR 101.3 103
6/7/08 YR 9 6 OMEN HANOV 100.0 104
6/7/08 YR 9 2 MISS GALVI 95.6 99
6/7/08 YR 9 4 BRICKYARD 95.0 97
6/7/08 YR 9 3 WHAMBAM N 93.2 97
6/7/08 YR 9 1 SISTER KAE 80.1 90
6/7/08 YR 10 5 KING CAT A 104.5 108
6/7/08 YR 10 4 MR P B N 103.8 106
6/7/08 YR 10 8 CHEYENNE H 103.2 105
6/7/08 YR 10 6 SEMALU EXP 101.0 101
6/7/08 YR 10 1 ROYAL MAN 100.8 105
6/7/08 YR 10 2 GETTING RE 97.9 104
6/7/08 YR 10 3 CAM'S FOOL 97.6 103
6/7/08 YR 10 7 SECLUDED I 96.8 104
6/7/08 YR 11 6 MR CHIN N 98.6 100
6/7/08 YR 11 5 THE TRAVEL 97.6 103
6/7/08 YR 11 1 MATT HERSH 96.0 98
6/7/08 YR 11 7 POWERBALL 95.2 99
6/7/08 YR 11 4 QUANDARY H 94.6 98
6/7/08 YR 11 3 JJTHEJETHO 89.7 96
6/7/08 YR 11 8 CAUSEWAY B 89.4 94
6/7/08 YR 11 2 WALTER PAY 87.2 94

LottaKash

06-07-2008, 05:39 PM

Hey Joe G...since I am always late for the dance......and I haven't ever seen your numbers and ratings.....How well do they do?....could you publish a report of how many wins and losses come from betting the top picks......or exacta boxes etc, or something positive.....

I am alway interested in something new and interesting......but, I myself, could never take anyones' numbers at face value and make a play on his say so...without seeing proof before my eyes....
This is not to deride or demean your sincerity and validity, but again, how well do these things do?...Everyone, including myself is always looking for a magic black box....We all know that there is none, but some do come close, does this one ??

best,

JoeG

06-07-2008, 05:40 PM

Date Track Race PP Horse Fig Spd
6/7/08 MOH 3 3 CALL ME YO 96.2 103
6/7/08 MOH 3 7 MAEVE HANO 96.0 96
6/7/08 MOH 3 9 CUZ SHE CA 94.0 94
6/7/08 MOH 3 4 DRAGONFEST 90.0 91
6/7/08 MOH 3 6 MAJORED IN 89.0 93
6/7/08 MOH 3 8 BEYONCE BL 88.2 91
6/7/08 MOH 3 5 IM JUST SP 83.6 88
6/7/08 MOH 3 2 MARLA HANO 81.5 83
6/7/08 MOH 3 1 TUG RIVER 0.0 0
6/7/08 MOH 4 1 BADLANDS N 103.0 107
6/7/08 MOH 4 3 KEYSTONE H 102.0 102
6/7/08 MOH 4 2 SANTANNA B 101.0 101
6/7/08 MOH 4 6 SCAPE GHOS 99.0 99
6/7/08 MOH 4 4 HANDS TO Y 97.0 97
6/7/08 MOH 4 7 UPFRONT HA 94.6 96
6/7/08 MOH 4 8 TRADE EDIT 91.2 93
6/7/08 MOH 4 9 SPACE WALK 84.3 93
6/7/08 MOH 4 5 SHARE THE 81.1 95
6/7/08 MOH 5 5 MUCHO SLEA 100.3 101
6/7/08 MOH 5 2 LONESTAR L 100.0 100
6/7/08 MOH 5 4 SOMEBEACHS 99.0 99
6/7/08 MOH 5 3 LEGACY N D 97.0 97
6/7/08 MOH 5 1 ART OFFICI 97.0 101
6/7/08 MOH 5 6 FRANKYLUVS 96.4 99
6/7/08 MOH 5 7 ON THE BRI 95.0 95
6/7/08 MOH 5 9 SHADOW PLA 93.9 97
6/7/08 MOH 5 8 IDLE HOUR 92.8 97
6/7/08 MOH 6 7 THONG 93.8 98
6/7/08 MOH 6 2 WESTSIDE G 93.0 95
6/7/08 MOH 6 6 SHAKE THAT 90.6 92
6/7/08 MOH 6 1 GOLD NOT S 87.4 91
6/7/08 MOH 6 3 SPRIG HANO 81.5 94
6/7/08 MOH 6 4 HAPPY DREA 79.0 79
6/7/08 MOH 6 8 WONDROUS G 77.2 80
6/7/08 MOH 6 5 A AND GS C 0.0 0
6/7/08 MOH 7 6 WARNING ZO 116.0 116
6/7/08 MOH 7 4 SAND SHOOT 105.0 105
6/7/08 MOH 7 2 DALI 103.0 103
6/7/08 MOH 7 8 DEUCE SEEL 99.6 101
6/7/08 MOH 7 9 LENNON BLU 97.0 100
6/7/08 MOH 7 5 FOUR STARZ 95.3 100
6/7/08 MOH 7 7 DALEY DEPO 94.4 97
6/7/08 MOH 7 1 STONEBRIDG 91.6 97
6/7/08 MOH 7 3 RUDY REDNO 91.1 100
6/7/08 MOH 8 3 A FIESTY A 102.1 112
6/7/08 MOH 8 8 ARTS DIVA 91.6 97
6/7/08 MOH 8 5 ARTIMITTAT 91.0 98
6/7/08 MOH 8 6 LADYCINO 87.0 88
6/7/08 MOH 8 4 CHANGING G 86.2 89
6/7/08 MOH 8 7 GO GET HER 86.0 86
6/7/08 MOH 8 9 CRUZIN INY 84.9 92
6/7/08 MOH 8 1 LOLA PALOO 83.2 86
6/7/08 MOH 8 2 BEACHY GIR 0.0 0
6/7/08 MOH 9 4 BUTTON UP 102.9 107
6/7/08 MOH 9 7 SHADYWOOD 102.8 104
6/7/08 MOH 9 10 SKEDADDLE 98.8 100
6/7/08 MOH 9 9 ESCAPE THE 98.7 101
6/7/08 MOH 9 6 BLISSED OU 98.6 103
6/7/08 MOH 9 3 TUCK 96.2 99
6/7/08 MOH 9 5 ACCEPTABLE 95.7 102
6/7/08 MOH 9 8 AWESOME LI 93.5 97
6/7/08 MOH 9 2 VIDEO EXPR 90.0 94
6/7/08 MOH 9 1 FOUR STARZ 84.2 90
6/7/08 MOH 10 5 CHANCEY LA 96.6 106
6/7/08 MOH 10 8 UP FRONT B 90.9 102
6/7/08 MOH 10 7 BLUE MIST 90.8 94
6/7/08 MOH 10 6 BTWNYURHEA 88.0 88
6/7/08 MOH 10 4 HAS AN ATT 86.4 91
6/7/08 MOH 10 1 SOUTHWIND 85.1 86
6/7/08 MOH 10 3 OPEN BOOK 82.0 82
6/7/08 MOH 10 2 VOELZ HANO 0.0 0
6/7/08 MOH 11 2 WESTERN SH 105.4 108
6/7/08 MOH 11 1 RUSTLER ST 102.8 104
6/7/08 MOH 11 6 ESCAPABLE 101.2 103
6/7/08 MOH 11 3 EAGLE LUCK 101.0 113
6/7/08 MOH 11 4 SILENT SWI 100.1 111
6/7/08 MOH 11 5 JUSTICE CA 99.2 106
6/7/08 MOH 12 1 ALLAMERICA 107.8 109
6/7/08 MOH 12 2 SPEAKIN GR 106.1 107
6/7/08 MOH 12 3 RINESTONE 101.2 105
6/7/08 MOH 12 5 HYPERION H 99.8 102
6/7/08 MOH 12 4 FOX VALLEY 99.6 102
6/7/08 MOH 12 8 NIFTY FELL 99.2 101
6/7/08 MOH 12 7 STONEBRIDG 96.4 99
6/7/08 MOH 12 6 MAGICAL GG 95.8 98
6/7/08 MOH 12 9 IMPECCABLE 91.8 94
6/7/08 MOH 13 4 DEDALOS 98.0 100
6/7/08 MOH 13 3 SKY TANTRU 97.8 101
6/7/08 MOH 13 10 WINDSUN CA 97.8 98
6/7/08 MOH 13 2 RUTHLESS A 96.2 98
6/7/08 MOH 13 5 SHIPPS CAM 93.1 97
6/7/08 MOH 13 6 KAOS AGENT 93.1 96
6/7/08 MOH 13 7 LIFES ROCK 91.2 95
6/7/08 MOH 13 9 CUZZIN SID 89.6 94
6/7/08 MOH 13 1 MY MASTERP 88.3 101
6/7/08 MOH 13 8 JUSTSHOWYO 85.0 85

JoeG

06-07-2008, 05:41 PM

Date Track Race PP Horse Fig Spd
6/7/08 M 1 8 IDEAL VINT 105.8 107
6/7/08 M 1 2 WESTERN SM 105.5 107
6/7/08 M 1 5 ST LADS KI 103.6 105
6/7/08 M 1 7 BROTHER VI 102.1 105
6/7/08 M 1 10 PJ COUNT O 100.2 102
6/7/08 M 1 9 THE MANIAC 97.4 100
6/7/08 M 1 1 BIG AL'S D 94.4 99
6/7/08 M 1 4 VAPOR IN T 94.3 97
6/7/08 M 1 3 ON YOUR MA 90.0 90
6/7/08 M 1 6 TRACZAR 88.6 98
6/7/08 M 2 2 WELU'S DRE 99.8 101
6/7/08 M 2 5 MUHAMMAD A 96.9 100
6/7/08 M 2 3 CONTROL FR 95.8 100
6/7/08 M 2 4 TOO MUCH G 95.6 100
6/7/08 M 2 9 FOX VALLEY 95.1 98
6/7/08 M 2 1 REP TIE 94.5 98
6/7/08 M 2 8 ARMBRO ACQ 93.8 99
6/7/08 M 2 6 DEFINITELY 66.2 84
6/7/08 M 2 7 FORTE BLUE 61.8 83
6/7/08 M 3 2 FENMAN 104.5 107
6/7/08 M 3 6 KENTUCKY R 101.4 104
6/7/08 M 3 5 BASIL HANO 99.4 103
6/7/08 M 3 1 WINFALL NA 98.2 102
6/7/08 M 3 4 VIKING SMA 98.2 102
6/7/08 M 3 9 DON'T FOOL 96.1 100
6/7/08 M 3 3 SAND GOGH 96.1 99
6/7/08 M 3 8 MODEL RELL 95.9 102
6/7/08 M 3 7 JAGUAR JET 89.4 96
6/7/08 M 4 5 JOE SOMEBO 101.1 102
6/7/08 M 4 6 NORTHERN E 100.5 102
6/7/08 M 4 4 YANKEES IN 99.3 101
6/7/08 M 4 2 VEAL MARSA 97.4 101
6/7/08 M 4 10 ARMBRO DAN 97.4 100
6/7/08 M 4 7 TJ'S IDEAL 97.2 101
6/7/08 M 4 8 COUNTERFEI 95.8 99
6/7/08 M 4 1 CLOONEY DR 95.6 98
6/7/08 M 4 9 ARTS DAY 92.8 97
6/7/08 M 4 3 KENNANS BR 91.4 96
6/7/08 M 5 8 NOBLE FALC 107.2 113
6/7/08 M 5 3 HAVERFORD 105.2 107
6/7/08 M 5 4 ART AT HEA 102.8 109
6/7/08 M 5 7 EXTERMINAT 102.3 104
6/7/08 M 5 1 PROVEN LOV 101.4 105
6/7/08 M 5 5 ARTSTREOS 99.5 105
6/7/08 M 5 2 ALWAYS A V 0.0 0
6/7/08 M 5 6 RUNNING BO 0.0 0
6/7/08 M 6 5 YANKEE LAN 105.5 108
6/7/08 M 6 9 OBJECT OF 103.5 105
6/7/08 M 6 10 MICHELLES 103.4 107
6/7/08 M 6 6 BT'S SPICE 103.0 104
6/7/08 M 6 8 ALL HALL 102.8 105
6/7/08 M 6 4 MY FELLA 100.4 104
6/7/08 M 6 2 CORIS LUCK 100.3 103
6/7/08 M 6 1 IT'SJUSTAB 99.8 104
6/7/08 M 6 7 SPEED PROF 99.2 103
6/7/08 M 6 3 ITHINKI'MS 94.5 102
6/7/08 M 7 9 SEGUNDO HA 100.8 102
6/7/08 M 7 2 FIRST RATE 96.8 98
6/7/08 M 7 6 PRO ART 96.8 98
6/7/08 M 7 3 GET OUT OF 95.4 98
6/7/08 M 7 4 DAX HANOVE 93.0 97
6/7/08 M 7 1 ALLAMERICA 92.8 97
6/7/08 M 7 10 MR NICE GU 92.4 97
6/7/08 M 7 5 PROPER RES 92.1 102
6/7/08 M 7 8 COLD CAPE 90.9 96
6/7/08 M 7 11 DYMOND JOE 87.3 93
6/7/08 M 7 7 WEEKEND GA 65.3 80
6/7/08 M 8 9 EASTERN BU 102.5 106
6/7/08 M 8 3 LANDMARK H 99.7 103
6/7/08 M 8 7 PEMBROKE F 99.6 103
6/7/08 M 8 6 ANSWER ME 97.9 101
6/7/08 M 8 4 AMBER FELL 97.8 102
6/7/08 M 8 10 MAGIC FORC 96.6 100
6/7/08 M 8 2 STOCK MARK 95.5 99
6/7/08 M 8 1 BEST MAGIC 95.2 101
6/7/08 M 8 8 BOLERO LOU 93.7 98
6/7/08 M 8 5 SPIRITED S 85.9 96
6/7/08 M 9 6 DONTLOSEYO 98.0 102
6/7/08 M 9 10 CAMSHAFT H 97.0 97
6/7/08 M 9 9 YANKEE ROC 93.3 95
6/7/08 M 9 1 PERSEUS 92.0 93
6/7/08 M 9 7 MEANT TO B 91.4 96
6/7/08 M 9 5 INCREDIBLE 91.0 96
6/7/08 M 9 3 DEAR MAC 89.7 94
6/7/08 M 9 8 DUNESIDE P 87.0 87
6/7/08 M 9 4 RAGING RIV 84.4 89
6/7/08 M 9 2 SHOOT FIRS 77.5 87
6/7/08 M 10 4 STATELY'S 108.6 112
6/7/08 M 10 1 ARMBRO DUR 101.2 104
6/7/08 M 10 7 ALLSTAR BL 100.3 107
6/7/08 M 10 3 RACE TRACK 98.3 107
6/7/08 M 10 5 SCAPA N 98.0 100
6/7/08 M 10 2 DREAM PROO 97.0 103
6/7/08 M 10 8 EWIE DUNCA 91.7 95
6/7/08 M 10 6 J K CU LAT 89.3 101
6/7/08 M 11 7 WINBAK THE 102.0 103
6/7/08 M 11 2 ROCKINROLL 100.5 104
6/7/08 M 11 9 ALLAMERICA 98.8 100
6/7/08 M 11 8 SYNIDE 97.4 100
6/7/08 M 11 3 O NARUTAC 97.0 100
6/7/08 M 11 4 ARMBRO BEC 94.7 99
6/7/08 M 11 1 TYRANT HAN 93.8 95
6/7/08 M 11 6 FOOLS PARA 89.8 92
6/7/08 M 11 5 EYES ON KA 87.4 93
6/7/08 M 11 10 GEORGIA PA 73.8 87
6/7/08 M 12 3 HEART BROK 102.9 106
6/7/08 M 12 6 FINAL CURT 97.3 105
6/7/08 M 12 10 SUGAR'S PR 96.0 100
6/7/08 M 12 8 FUTURE CHA 95.9 104
6/7/08 M 12 2 RED HOT YA 95.6 102
6/7/08 M 12 1 ELMO 92.0 92
6/7/08 M 12 7 COWBOY HAN 91.8 96
6/7/08 M 12 9 PLACEITONL 91.5 98
6/7/08 M 12 5 FUNNY DEAC 90.8 95
6/7/08 M 12 4 MUD ON THE 0.0 0

JoeG

06-07-2008, 05:48 PM

I honestly don't have any numbers on top picks, exactas, etc. I haven't used these numbers for a long time. I have a database that I normally use for handicapping, but I have some size issues and will have to modify or port it to a different format then I currently use.

Also, these numbers are not even close to a black box. They are simply a computer generated speed figure projection. The way I have bet them in the past is to: 1) look for value in the top 2 or 3 if there is not much separation on the win side; 2) Use any separation to key a horse or two horses in exactas. If I have time I will start tracking the numbers and see what comes up.

JoeG

06-07-2008, 06:03 PM

Thursday at Mohawk was a terrific night for the infomercial-style redboard but does show a few examples.

Race 5. Here are the numbers:

6/5/08 MOH 5 10 EMMAS DESI 88.3 90
6/5/08 MOH 5 4 KAITLYN RO 88.1 91
6/5/08 MOH 5 7 COURTNEYS 87.3 89
6/5/08 MOH 5 9 HOW IS KAT 85.2 88
6/5/08 MOH 5 6 SPARKLE CA 84.8 89
6/5/08 MOH 5 5 STEINWAY 83.4 87
6/5/08 MOH 5 2 ATLANTIC F 81.7 88
6/5/08 MOH 5 8 NEEDMOREJE 81.2 85
6/5/08 MOH 5 1 SHOOTERS B 80.7 87
6/5/08 MOH 5 3 CMR MAYBE 74.4 82

Odds on horses: #10 - 4/1; #4 - 35/1; #7 - 8/1; #9 - 5/2. If the numbers (and any numbers you like) make sense like this you have a good betting race. Here #10 and #4 are close at top with great odds. Bet #4 to win and 4,10/4,10,7,9 exacta. My redboard selective choice of a race here pays $76.00 to win and $211.75 exacta per $1 as race finishes 4-9-10. Now if I like to play the tri (I usuallly don't) it came in at $3,149.70 per $1. Again this example is a not so usual highlight, but it represents what I would do (and did).

If the top two horses above were 8/5 and 5/2 I would have passed. Odds and money management are a big part of the game for me.

JoeG

06-07-2008, 06:13 PM

Here's a more realistic example that won on 6/5. MR 7th race:

6/5/08 MR 7 7 BJ'S JETST 84.0 84
6/5/08 MR 7 5 CHIEF BEAR 79.0 82
6/5/08 MR 7 1 SPORTY MOR 78.6 83
6/5/08 MR 7 2 BRYANS DIA 75.7 79
6/5/08 MR 7 3 SHOOTIN' D 74.8 78
6/5/08 MR 7 4 ELECTRIFYI 69.6 75

Here's and easy betting race. #7 (9/2) a clear fave even with the post. the next two horses are separated from the rest...a clear 7/1,5 exacta bet and with the top choice having a clear separation I will also bet the win at 9/2 (a little on the low side for my win bets). Exacta paid $23.90 per $1 and win was $11.60.

Looking over my bets from Thursday I had 15 win bets with 5 winners (two big winners at $76 and $30). This is above normal as I bet the odds on the win end.

Exactas hit 3 of those 5 win races including the two above and a $26 at chester.

Friday was 0 for 4 in my win and exacta bets.

Today have bet only a few races. Only one hit out of the ones I bet so far for a little loss.

spicytomato

06-07-2008, 06:31 PM

LottaKash

06-07-2008, 08:09 PM

Thx Joe for your straightforward answer....the numbers look very intriguing, and I believe if they are founded on good fundamental pace ratings, when adding the art-form part of the handicapping equation, they might hold some high promise and power....good luck with them.......

I am on a similar path lately, but for me, being a pencil and paper guy my numbers are very portable and there is no need for a computer of any sort, except maybe for recording success's and failures.......

Keep on keepin on...I'm watching you with great interest...

best,

Ray2000

06-07-2008, 08:29 PM

Joe

Did you have to use thurs Mohawk 5 as an example?:)

Just kidding ...(see my thursday picks)

Your numbers look pretty good

Ray