View Full Version : Returns so far this year
BCOURTNEY
06-01-2008, 04:39 PM
This poll is about your returns so far this year. Returns expressed as ROI. Meaning if you wagered 100 dollars and your current bankroll is 105 You have a postive ROI of 5%
JustRalph
06-01-2008, 11:15 PM
do I have to count the gas I bought to drive to the track?
If so, I am down............. :lol:
BCOURTNEY
06-01-2008, 11:19 PM
do I have to count the gas I bought to drive to the track?
If so, I am down............. :lol:
When gas prices go up I invest in oil stocks to pay for the gas price increase, and my gas. My energy fund is rocking, I'm hoping for 5 or maybe 10 dollars a gallon. :lol:
proximity
06-03-2008, 10:26 PM
This poll is about your returns so far this year. Returns expressed as ROI. Meaning if you wagered 100 dollars and your current bankroll is 105 You have a postive ROI of 5%
bc, are you sure you've worded this one right? i'm sure all but the most conservative of players here who are ahead for the year have wagered more than their current bankrolls.
are you looking for roi in terms of $returns/$bet or the actual percentage increase in bankroll?
BCOURTNEY
06-04-2008, 10:44 PM
bc, are you sure you've worded this one right? i'm sure all but the most conservative of players here who are ahead for the year have wagered more than their current bankrolls.
are you looking for roi in terms of $returns/$bet or the actual percentage increase in bankroll?
Your point is well taken. Percentage increase in the bankroll was the question for the poll. The "churn" of the money could be an interesting question, I think we would find wide variety there, such that the person's with poistive ROI for the year would have 100 bets with an average return of 1% or perhaps they play 1% of the races with a return of 80-90% and what not. This would mostly fall into the persons using a general / computer assisted approach to a single player with a nice model in their head that plays few races and only when they see the thing that work well for a particular angle or approach.
cj's dad
06-05-2008, 01:14 AM
I have to admit that until 2-3 years ago, I was a weekend hacker who although occasionally having a good weekend, would usually see more going thru the windows than coming back at me. It got so bad for a while that the tellers were giving me my tickets already torn in half.:D
With the advent of a certain program and the ability to read same thru trial and error and the study of almost EVERY LOSING and WINNING wager, I have finally began to achieve a modest ROI. I have realized that one cannot bet EVERY race and expect to win long term. Selective wagering and deciding what wager type you are best (comfortable) at is the one to play. This post is not directed at the pros on this site, but at the many who have come on board lately and are asking tons of questions regarding wagering philosophies.
JBmadera
06-11-2008, 03:56 PM
I have to admit that until 2-3 years ago, I was a weekend hacker who although occasionally having a good weekend, would usually see more going thru the windows than coming back at me. It got so bad for a while that the tellers were giving me my tickets already torn in half.:D
With the advent of a certain program and the ability to read same thru trial and error and the study of almost EVERY LOSING and WINNING wager, I have finally began to achieve a modest ROI. I have realized that one cannot bet EVERY race and expect to win long term. Selective wagering and deciding what wager type you are best (comfortable) at is the one to play. This post is not directed at the pros on this site, but at the many who have come on board lately and are asking tons of questions regarding wagering philosophies.
Thanks for your post as you've nailed exactly where I am in my evolution (or degeneration - :confused: ) as a horseplayer. I'm spending a lot of time just watching races, working on speed and pace figs as well as evaluating several software programs. I've never done this via ADW/video, I had always gone to the track/simulcast so it seems really different. Hopefully the wagering methodology will fall into line before the bank roll runs out!
MONEY
06-15-2008, 01:54 PM
I was doing very well until I checked off the over 20% on this poll at the beginning of this month. I've lost $1,500 since then.
Money
BCOURTNEY
06-20-2008, 02:59 AM
I was doing very well until I checked off the over 20% on this poll at the beginning of this month. I've lost $1,500 since then.
Money
The poll has eyes. Yuk.
mannyberrios
06-21-2008, 05:15 PM
I was doing very well until I checked off the over 20% on this poll at the beginning of this month. I've lost $1,500 since then.
Money:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
jfdinneen
06-21-2008, 07:58 PM
As indicated elsewhere, I do not consider myself a particularly good handicapper but I usually manage to compensate for this deficiency by using my knowledge of mathematics in order to generate a modest annual profit.
This year, however, I decided to limit my plays exclusively to turf races and to concentrate my firepower on pedigree plays with the result that today I have reached the almost unbelievable position of doubling my bankroll. As a weekend golfer, this current position reminds me of an occasion a few years ago when I was one under-par (eight pars, one birdie) for the first nine holes at one of the major links courses in Scotland (on vacation). I felt so completely out of my depth that I was unable to enjoy the experience or even to indulge in the usual banter with my playing partners. Not surprisingly, the pressure gauge eventually registered a system overload (on the 10th) leading to a double-bogey and spiralled into a complete collapse soon afterwards (by the 14th).
Thus, my reason for posting the current milestone is to both encourage others to address their own weaknesses and to try to prevent another meltdown in my own game!
I trust this will meet with your approval.
John
pktruckdriver
06-21-2008, 08:35 PM
When gas prices go up I invest in oil stocks to pay for the gas price increase, and my gas. My energy fund is rocking, I'm hoping for 5 or maybe 10 dollars a gallon.
People like you scare me, 10.00 fuel would definetly kill my career. Yes it would. What is exxon trading for and what is it paying in dividends??
Losing at the horses has been something I've been doing for years, all by myself, but lately I've gotten better and almost break even, sometimes.:bang:
cmoore
01-18-2009, 04:10 PM
Just checked my accounts..+16% so far..Two big exactas have bailed me out..Not betting as much so far this year..I'm looking at a sire angle in mdn races. So far it's profitable on paper since the 1st of Jan.
I have a very impressive string of second place finishes so far this year. :D I'm still showing a small, but positive edge from the middle of November when I started.
The new tracks I'm working on are starting to show promise. Plus, I've about got an exacta strategy mapped out to add to my win bets. I'd like to add bet types instead of tracks to increase my churn from this point. I feel maxed out handicapping five tracks.
acorn54
01-18-2009, 10:50 PM
Just checked my accounts..+16% so far..Two big exactas have bailed me out..Not betting as much so far this year..I'm looking at a sire angle in mdn races. So far it's profitable on paper since the 1st of Jan.
profitable on paper
i remember a conversation i had many years ago with a social worker who dabbled in the horses. he said isn't it interesting that as soon as you bet real money you start losing.
cmoore
01-19-2009, 03:25 AM
profitable on paper
i remember a conversation i had many years ago with a social worker who dabbled in the horses. he said isn't it interesting that as soon as you bet real money you start losing.
Isn't that the truth. I print the days maiden races out every day. I notice certain sires were finishing 1st or 2nd. Just keeping a closer eye on them. That's all. I know systems don't work in the long run..I've been down that road years ago. By the way..Don't ask which sires. If I told you, I'd have to kill you..:faint:
Hajck Hillstrom
01-19-2009, 09:46 PM
Still at 0% as I haven't placed a wager since October 24th.
The game isn't nearly as enjoyable if you aren't seriously involved. (duh) :rolleyes: I think tournament action is the only viable alternative to wagering for someone like me. You know the type.... the guy that likes to cut off a nose to spite his face.
I didn't see too many jumping on my bandwagon..... as my voice remains a whisper in the shadows.
I may have found Mark Cramer's automatic bet though. It is unbelievably simple and has a 13% ROI so far this year. I will fine tune the theory and expound upon it later. Plenty of action with about 10 wagers per track per day. We will have to see if it stands the test of time before elaborating.
BillW
01-19-2009, 10:56 PM
Still at 0% as I haven't placed a wager since October 24th.
The game isn't nearly as enjoyable if you aren't seriously involved. (duh) :rolleyes: I think tournament action is the only viable alternative to wagering for someone like me. You know the type.... the guy that likes to cut off a nose to spite his face.
I didn't see too many jumping on my bandwagon..... as my voice remains a whisper in the shadows.
Ditto Hajck, break even here also, since about mid last year (actually I was about breakeven before that when i WAS playing too :D ). The racing industry is at least partially correct, a subset of their customers will take any abuse - withheld signals, high takeout etc. and still keep sending it in.
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