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I got my stimulus check in the mail today. I am so excited, now I can buy enough gas to cut my lawn. :lol: :lol: :lol:
juanepstein
05-23-2008, 05:36 PM
bush taking tax money giving it back at the same time we have a huge surge up in price for gas and just in time for the memorial day trip to grandmas.
a large % of that money is gonna be lining the pockets of bush and his cronies.
and everyone thinks this guy is dumb.
delayjf
05-23-2008, 05:41 PM
a large % of that money is gonna be lining the pockets of bush and his cronies.
Prove it. I challange anyone on this board to prove President Bush is pocketing money from the oil companies.
wonatthewire1
05-23-2008, 06:05 PM
Prove it. I challange anyone on this board to prove President Bush is pocketing money from the oil companies.
http://www.bushwatch.com/bushmoney.htm
The stuff about the baseball team is old news but a lot of people in those positions get a lot of money from the public coffers
:D
A couple of mainstreamers about Iraq oil money - like, where is it?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6621523
http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/08/news/international/iraq_oil/index.htm
Favorite line from the second one: the oil money in Iraq is barely enough to cover the expenses of the government of Iraq
delayjf
05-23-2008, 06:16 PM
All good questions, but nothing that proves a dime went to President Bushes bank account. Not sure I'd rank MSNBC as mainstream.
Marshall Bennett
05-23-2008, 08:46 PM
Bush could have hand delivered a $10,000 check in person to them and they'd find some reason to bitch about it .
wonatthewire1
05-23-2008, 09:21 PM
Bush could have hand delivered a $10,000 check in person to them and they'd find some reason to bitch about it .
I don't know if I'd answer the door - pollyticians are scary
Besides, the dimcrats are giving away $12,000 and I won't answer the door then either.
wonatthewire1
05-23-2008, 09:34 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080523/pl_afp/usiraqmilitarybudget
sounds like pocket change when you're dealing with this bloated, can't push away from the table government - maybe we can get a job finding the money that these dopes lose and get a percentage
:rolleyes:
chickenhead
05-23-2008, 09:55 PM
Bush could have hand delivered a $10,000 check in person to them and they'd find some reason to bitch about it .
yeah, I guess some people don't like the gov't borrowing money on their behalf and handing it out like candy.
What are they thinking?
yeah, I guess some people don't like the gov't borrowing money on their behalf and handing it out like candy.
What are they thinking?
Hey Chick.......take a note - NEVER use the words government and thinking in the same post. They mutually exclusive!
:lol::lol::lol::(
Lefty
05-24-2008, 11:56 AM
lbj, and what could you buy if you g0t zero? Don't want it, give it back. For some people this check will help. But you're not interested in us ordinary people are you? You just wanna bitch.
Lefty
05-24-2008, 11:59 AM
chick, what i don't like is govt taking my tax money and giving it out like candy in the form of foodstamps, housing subsidies etc. Then to make it worse the so called needy only get about 22 cents of that. Ahh, bureaucracy...
what i don't like is paying taxes to subsidize the ordinary folks if Lefty is one of them.
some of us don't get a free(borrowed from China) check in the mail.
How much would you contribute to your needy without taxes?
I suspect that's the zero you mentioned before.
After all, they are not ordinary folks such as yourself.
Someone will pay taxes on this free money next year and the year after that and after and after.
it's dumb,dumb,dumb , after all it came from a DIM congress and signed by a crude imitation of a pres.
Presidents dont hand out money last I heard.
If we do exactly the opposite of whatever those two entities support , you are more likely to obtain a good long-term-outcome.
one is spineless pander-bears , the other is clueless.
but par these days in this country.
great numbers of people it seems think they should not have to pay for anything anymore and forever it seems.
Long as it's to help the ordinary folk.
If they would bother to study the previous attempts at this they would see it doesn't support their rational for doing it.
:ThmbDown:
lbj, and what could you buy if you g0t zero? Don't want it, give it back. For some people this check will help. But you're not interested in us ordinary people are you? You just wanna bitch.
Again I fired one that went way over Lefty's head. :lol:
what i don't like is paying taxes to subsidize the ordinary folks if Lefty is one of them.
some of us don't get a free(borrowed from China) check in the mail.
How much would you contribute to your needy without taxes?
I suspect that's the zero you mentioned before.
After all, they are not ordinary folks such as yourself.
Someone will pay taxes on this free money next year and the year after that and after and after.
it's dumb,dumb,dumb , after all it came from a DIM congress and signed by a crude imitation of a pres.
Presidents dont hand out money last I heard.
If we do exactly the opposite of whatever those two entities support , you are more likely to obtain a good long-term-outcome.
one is spineless pander-bears , the other is clueless.
but par these days in this country.
great numbers of people it seems think they should not have to pay for anything anymore and forever it seems.
Long as it's to help the ordinary folk.
If they would bother to study the previous attempts at this they would see it doesn't support their rational for doing it.
:ThmbDown:
Why didn't the President veto this if it is so bad ? The Dems are making an effort at cleaning up this mess brought about by years of Repug control of all three branches of gov't. This will take some time but it can be done.
Why didn't the President veto this if it is so bad ? The Dems are making an effort at cleaning up this mess brought about by years of Repug control of all three branches of gov't. This will take some time but it can be done. __________________
If the dems think this stimulous package is a good idea, why are they opposed to tax cuts - which have the exact same effect?
Using dem math and locig, we should all be sending $600 checks to the gubermint to stimulate the economy.
wonatthewire1
05-24-2008, 04:22 PM
chick, what i don't like is govt taking my tax money and giving it out like candy in the form of foodstamps, housing subsidies etc. Then to make it worse the so called needy only get about 22 cents of that. Ahh, bureaucracy...
Lefty - you should check out how much to grubbyment is giving to those stinking furriners - I can't even drive down an interstate without dodging all the pot holes continuously!
Here's another cool one brought to you by the awesome dopes in grubbyment - but then again, maybe some of those grubbyment dudes are getting rich off our behinds instead?
http://tinyurl.com/n2noz
That's a lot of money per person!
Let's send some more to Iraq through the pentagon so it can get "lost" and "unaccounted" for!
wonatthewire1
05-24-2008, 04:24 PM
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If the dems think this stimulous package is a good idea, why are they opposed to tax cuts - which have the exact same effect?
Using dem math and locig, we should all be sending $600 checks to the gubermint to stimulate the economy.
according to the national debt and the number of people in the country, each and everyone of us would need to send about $30,000 (man, woman and child - don't know if illegals are in there) to the grubbyment to cover the national 'debt'
:lol:
juanepstein
05-24-2008, 04:37 PM
all this recent stimulus money has been borrowed from china.
doesnt that make you feel all warm in fuzzy inside?
according to the national debt and the number of people in the country, each and everyone of us would need to send about $30,000 (man, woman and child - don't know if illegals are in there) to the grubbyment to cover the national 'debt'
:lol:
Wow. You just gave me a real good idea......
Let's make it a rule, than anyone wanting to run for Congress or the presidency has to assume his share of the national deficit ( not debt) and at the end of their term they have to pay it off. The deficit would be divided by number in congress and the president. Would that help make them aware of the value of the stupid damn bills this bunch of rat bastard morons pass and sign on our ticket?
Lefty
05-24-2008, 06:48 PM
ddog, what anybody would give is thei business. It's not up to the govt to rob us and give it to the so-called needy. What don't you get about only a small p[ortion actually goes to the needy? The govt oversteps its bounds with these social prgms. I see too many young people living on the dole because they're to lazy to work.
lbj, you can't shoot high enough to get any of your nonsense over MY head.
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If the dems think this stimulous package is a good idea, why are they opposed to tax cuts - which have the exact same effect?
Using dem math and locig, we should all be sending $600 checks to the gubermint to stimulate the economy.
Wrong answer Tom, Tax cuts never reach the low income folks. We probably should be sending $600 checks to the gubermint to pay the repugs bills.
lbj, you can't shoot high enough to get any of your nonsense over MY head.
Still didn't get hey Lefty. :bang:
Lefty
05-25-2008, 07:44 PM
So when I say tax cuts did help me and the wife you just totally discount it? Besides that, Tax cuts stimulate the economy and creates jobs for those low income people. You need better info, lbj. Try listening to Neal Cavuto sometime.
boxcar
05-25-2008, 07:48 PM
Wrong answer Tom, Tax cuts never reach the low income folks. We probably should be sending $600 checks to the gubermint to pay the repugs bills.
Why should they reach the "low income" folks? Why should people who don't pay taxes to begin with receive tax cuts? How would that be fair if they did?
Boxcar
wonatthewire1
05-25-2008, 09:52 PM
Why should they reach the "low income" folks? Why should people who don't pay taxes to begin with receive tax cuts? How would that be fair if they did? Boxcar
Boxie, you are on a roll today - low income people pay taxes - don't know what lbj is talking about
I don't know anyone who concerns themselves with what is "fair" we don't live in that type of society. Seniors who are multimillionaires still take SS money and load up on the Medicare despite having the means to go it themselves seems "fair" doesn't it?
Why should they reach the "low income" folks? Why should people who don't pay taxes to begin with receive tax cuts? How would that be fair if they did?
Boxcar
My statement was in response to a statement that tax cuts were the same as the recent stimulation checks sent out. I said they were not the same. Thanks for making my point boxxy.
So when I say tax cuts did help me and the wife you just totally discount it? Besides that, Tax cuts stimulate the economy and creates jobs for those low income people. You need better info, lbj. Try listening to Neal Cavuto sometime.
Lefty,
You are overlooking a major point here. The increase in costs of education, gas, food, medical care and other everyday expenses make your tax cut akin to pissing in the ocean and expecting a tidal wave. Come on Lefty, give this stuff some thought, stop just parroting the corporate mouth pieces.
Lefty
05-26-2008, 11:19 AM
But those things go up anyway due to baseline budgeting. Tax cuts stimulate the economy; create jobs. Not parroting, just basic economics. I'm not the one that uses the same old catchphrases that everyone else does, unlike you.
When I say tax cuts put a few more bucks in mypocket i'm talking from reality. The tax cuts put a record amt of money into govt coffers. That's proof it works. The R's need to get a handle on spending, no doubt. But the dims, will raise taxes and spend even more. That's reality.
Well you are getting a little closer Lefty but, you still ain't there. Keep up the good work. The little bitty tax cut you get does not even touch the bonuses received by the board of directors of the big insurance companies as a result of outsourcing and increasing premiums while decreasing benefits.
Lefty
05-26-2008, 07:05 PM
lbj, what libs can't seem to grasp is that my itty bitty tax cut and what the boards of directors make is that one has nothing to do with the other. A person in this country is allowed to make whatever someone deems their worth. Taxes, regulations and unions is what drives a lot of them to outsource; as they have a financial responsibility to their investors. If every job was outsourced as you guys always seem to suggest, then we would never have the high employment figs we havew. Also, we have a lot of insourcing: My Honda was built in Ohio. I do not indulge in class envy and i do not want the govt to redistribute ANYONE's money via the tax code. Can you dig it?
lbj, what libs can't seem to grasp is that my itty bitty tax cut and what the boards of directors make is that one has nothing to do with the other. A person in this country is allowed to make whatever someone deems their worth. Taxes, regulations and unions is what drives a lot of them to outsource; as they have a financial responsibility to their investors. If every job was outsourced as you guys always seem to suggest, then we would never have the high employment figs we havew. Also, we have a lot of insourcing: My Honda was built in Ohio. I do not indulge in class envy and i do not want the govt to redistribute ANYONE's money via the tax code. Can you dig it?
Lefty,
What you can't seem to grasp is that the itty bitty tax cut and the bonuses for the board of directors are directly related. The guv gives you a few bucks for your vote and then they pass rules/regs and laws that increase corporate profits at the expense of you and your itty bitty tax refund. simple enough don't you think ? The guv is already redistributing our money to the oil barons et all through their policies etc.
wonatthewire1
05-26-2008, 08:44 PM
Lefty,
What you can't seem to grasp is that the itty bitty tax cut and the bonuses for the board of directors are directly related. The guv gives you a few bucks for your vote and then they pass rules/regs and laws that increase corporate profits at the expense of you and your itty bitty tax refund. simple enough don't you think ? The guv is already redistributing our money to the oil barons et all through their policies etc.
ljb - you are forgetting that most of the politicians that get out of office get those lucrative speaking engagements at those corporations too...might as well make a lot of friends in the corporate world when you are in office
All in a day's work I guess
Lefty
05-26-2008, 09:12 PM
lbj, it's taxes and regs and etc that i've mentioned adfinitum but you've blinded yourself to capitalism and are hellbent on socialism. Don't think there's any hope for you. I guess you don't work for a corp? It's business that provides jobs, m'boy. Tax em into oblivion and jobs disappear and products increase in cost. So rail all ya want, you're flat wrong.
ljb - you are forgetting that most of the politicians that get out of office get those lucrative speaking engagements at those corporations too...might as well make a lot of friends in the corporate world when you are in office
All in a day's work I guess
Yeah, look at that rag Clinton and all money he has made since assisitng OBL in his growth years. Is he offering franchises in terrorism?
Lefty
05-27-2008, 12:19 AM
won, please bk up your assertions. Clinton has taken money from other countries and Geo H Bush is not on the speaking trail that i'm aware of. I just don't understand all the class envy, except the extreme left promotes it and you little dems buy it. Repeat after me: Corporations provide jobs goods and services.
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