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bigmack
05-20-2008, 09:30 PM
If I were a demicrat I'd be fairly concerned about this complete void of support for Obama within the dumb, white, working class vote.

I'd be willing to organize a clam bake in Denver for any of you demo's that feel Obama has little chance. Potato salad, frisbee toss...the works.

Who's in?

ElKabong
05-20-2008, 11:29 PM
VERY concerned. Tonight he gets beat by 30% points, preceeded by a 50 point pounding WVA layed on his arse. This, by his own party!

Dude is unelectable. His party is rejecting him soundly in the face of locking up the nomination (via delegates won prior to Reverend US of KKK emergence & wife's comments). Must be those gun toting, church goers....

Tom
05-21-2008, 07:35 AM
Funny how whem a majority of white people vote for Hillary, it is racism, yet whne a makority of Blakcs vote for OBama, it is him bringing out the new voters.

Same old song, new cover band.
The Dems never change.

JustRalph
05-21-2008, 08:03 AM
Check out M.Malkin's list of Gaffes that Obama has received a pass on.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MWZjY2YzZWVkMjdkMDEzMGQ0MjJkNTUyN2FkNmMzYTc=

Interesting stuff. When Hillary fans say that the media is in the tank for Obama..........she just might have a point.

If McCain had made these errors, it would be front page news.

Tom
05-21-2008, 12:51 PM
Sunday, Barry O said that Iran was not threat tothe USA.
Yesterday, he said they were a real threat to us.

They were a threat to us before they weren't. :lol:
Has Kerry been tutoring this guy?
Maybe Iran is only a threat to the 7 new states.

toetoe
05-21-2008, 01:38 PM
Mama Michelle would be PROUD --- and not for the first time --- to be part of such a confab. Ya know, she's been known to drool over a Big Mac, eh Guv ? Noah d'mine ? (:Elbow-in-ribs emoticon.) Wink, wink.

bigmack
05-21-2008, 02:05 PM
...Nudge, nudge. Is there a third M to make Miss June a genuine Mmm?

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/5_21_08_10_58_10.png


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Who might fill the shoes of Rosenberg in Denver and will they have a knack for keeping a cig intact like he did in '68?

ljb
05-21-2008, 03:57 PM
Those folks that voted for Hillary in W. Virginia and Kentucky are the same folks that voted for G.W. in the last two presidential elections. So we all know they ain't got both oars in the water.

ddog
05-21-2008, 05:10 PM
Check out M.Malkin's list of Gaffes that Obama has received a pass on.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MWZjY2YzZWVkMjdkMDEzMGQ0MjJkNTUyN2FkNmMzYTc=

Interesting stuff. When Hillary fans say that the media is in the tank for Obama..........she just might have a point.

If McCain had made these errors, it would be front page news.


I am no BHO fan, but if that's the best SHE can toss out then Mccain is in deep do-do.

almost every point she puts out has been said/done by every other candidate both living and dead if they have anytime in gvt at all.

weak.
she can do better.

also , you can attribute the Dim primary voting patterns to whatever you want to , but it is striking that white people in various states can vote in a contest with a black dude and be almost reverse image results from state to state.

class , baby- class, Americans don't like to admit it, but it's always in there.

the old pander to your base by class race , whatever is a little depressing , but that's the game, still.

Mccain is and always has been one of the media soft spots, they by and large love the guy.

Tom
05-21-2008, 07:28 PM
Gee, ljb, those who voted for Hillary were DEMOCRATS. :lol:

bigmack
05-21-2008, 07:30 PM
Those folks that voted for Hillary in W. Virginia and Kentucky are the same folks that voted for G.W. in the last two presidential elections. So we all know they ain't got both oars in the water.
The sad news for you is, they'll be the ones leaving Obama up a crick without a paddle. Two oars beat no paddle everytime.

http://www.usrtriton.nl/img/bb_bow.gif

Tom
05-21-2008, 07:42 PM
Two oars?
I though Elliot Spitzer resigned????

PaceAdvantage
05-22-2008, 02:46 AM
Check out M.Malkin's list of Gaffes that Obama has received a pass on.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MWZjY2YzZWVkMjdkMDEzMGQ0MjJkNTUyN2FkNmMzYTc=

Interesting stuff. When Hillary fans say that the media is in the tank for Obama..........she just might have a point.

If McCain had made these errors, it would be front page news.I'm surprised a few on here haven't diagnosed Obama with the same type of "dementia" that John McCain has been tattooed with here on "Off-Topic."

After all, the symptoms appear nearly identical....yet their ages are worlds apart...imagine that?

ljb
05-22-2008, 07:11 AM
Gee, ljb, those who voted for Hillary were DEMOCRATS. :lol:
Come on Tom,
You know better then that. 40 percent said they would vote for McSame in the general.
Mack, nothing sad here, this group never really supported Hillary either. This is a bunch of dittoheads. They have had their fun and given some here a thrill but that's it.

eastie
05-22-2008, 08:19 AM
none of these 3 is electable. Being married to Bill Clinton is Hilary's biggest qualification, which is more than the other 2 have going for them. A vote for her, is a vote that Bill will be running the show isn't it ? I can hear him now..."quiet Hilary, men are talking. " McCain was hilarious on Saturday night Live last week, which is saying someting because the show itself is painful to watch. He is old though and a former POW. He has already given eenough to this country, plus the job ages people pretty fast and would probably kill him in lesss than 4 years. Obama seems like Duval Patrick, a lot of hype, but hasn't got anything done. Our best chance is that Bill Clinton will at least tell the oil companies (in his best Frank "King of New York" White impersonation, that "the party is over guys...gas is capped at 3 bucks a gallon and that's it. If you don't like, too f'n bad. I'll throw you all in jail for price fixing and take the gas and give it to the people." Plus, Bill is friends with everyone and we need to get back on a friendly basis with some of these countries, especially the ones who could obliterate us if they got mad enough.

toetoe
05-22-2008, 03:22 PM
Whose are those ... uh, I mean who is that ? C'mon, mackhale, give, give GIVE !! :jump:

riskman
05-22-2008, 03:30 PM
I'm surprised a few on here haven't diagnosed Obama with the same type of "dementia" that John McCain has been tattooed with here on "Off-Topic."

After all, the symptoms appear nearly identical....yet their ages are worlds apart...imagine that?



http://www.socialistunity.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/tattoo-face.jpg

The new "tatooed" John McCaine's official photo as the Republican presidential nominee. When McCain appeared at a press conference after the photo shoot, reporters questioned him on his appearence. After an uncomfortable
silence, he admitted that there was no way Obama was going to beat him on the "change" issue." Lets see Obama top this " said McCain. Since McCain is a darling of the press, they told McCain they would keep this off the record.

toetoe
05-23-2008, 08:27 PM
mack,

Please to be disseminating ( :blush: ) the name of pictured babelet. Pretty please ?

JustRalph
05-27-2008, 03:42 PM
Check out M.Malkin's list of Gaffes that Obama has received a pass on.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MWZjY2YzZWVkMjdkMDEzMGQ0MjJkNTUyN2FkNmMzYTc=

Interesting stuff. When Hillary fans say that the media is in the tank for Obama..........she just might have a point.

If McCain had made these errors, it would be front page news.

And the beat goes on

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/27/recollection-of-obama-familys-service-missing-key-details/

Recollection of Obama Uncle’s War Service Missing Key Details

Barack Obama is getting called out again for his knowledge of history, including his own family’s, after declaring to veterans on Memorial Day that his uncle helped liberate the Auschwitz death camp at the end of World War II.

Two problems with the tale: Auschwitz was liberated by the Soviet Army, and Obama’s American mother was an only child.

Speaking in Las Cruces, N.M., on Monday, the Democratic presidential candidate said he did not serve, but comes from a family that did sacrifice for the nation. He was speaking about the many members of the military who suffer post traumatic stress disorder and should be given better care.

“I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps and the story in our family is that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn’t leave the house for six months, right. Now obviously something had really affected him deeply but at that time there just weren’t the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain,” he said.

However, a quick check on the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum Web site shows that Soviet forces were the first to approach Auschwitz, which was in Poland.

“On Jan. 27, 1945, the Soviet army entered Auschwitz and liberated more than 7,000 remaining prisoners,” the site reads.

U.S. forces did liberate several camps, including Ohrdruf Concentration Camp on April 4, 1945; Mittelbau-Dora Concentration Camp on April 11, 1945; Buchenwald on April 12, 1945; Dachau on April 29, 1945; and Mauthausen on May 5, 1945.

~more at the link~

JustRalph
05-27-2008, 04:06 PM
http://redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/a_pathological_need_to_be_a_part_of_history

This is a great piece on Obama's Pathological need to pad his historical resume. All the candidates offer bullshit during a campaign. But this guy is turning it into an art. I love the John Edwards quote. I forgot about that one.

Here are some highlights from the article above. I don't know who this guy is writing for Red State, but he nails it on this one.

“The litany of events Obama has attempted to take ownership of via family involvement reads like a proposed script for Forrest Gump 2, this time starring the Obama family tree.”

“In an attempt to claim ownership of the end of the Holocaust and the liberation of Auschwitz, Obama inadvertently claimed his uncle was a member of Stalin's Red Army”

Remember Selma, Alabama? Obama staked his claim to the historic "Bloody Sunday" event there by crediting that activity with his parents' marriage, and with his birth. On March 2nd, speaking at the 43rd anniversary of Selma, Obama :


"They looked at each other and they decided, 'We know that in the world, as it has been, it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child, but something is stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across the bridge.' And so they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Ala.!"

Of course, as Jake Tapper wrote for ABCNews the following Wednesday, "Obama was born in 1961; the Selma march was four years later."

Last year, Obama announced, in an attempt to co-opt the Kennedy legacy in the Democrat party, that he traced his "very existence" to the generosity of the Kennedy family, which he said paid for his Kenyan father to travel to America on a student scholarship and thus meet his Kansan mother.

As the Washington Post's Michael Dobbs wrote of that claim at the end of March, "It is a touching story -- but the key details are either untrue or grossly oversimplified." Dobbs continued:


Contrary to Obama's claims in speeches in January at American University and in Selma last year, the Kennedy family did not provide the funding for a September 1959 airlift of 81 Kenyan students to the United States that included Obama's father. According to historical records and interviews with participants, the Kennedys were first approached for support for the program nearly a year later, in July 1960. The family responded with a $100,000 donation, most of which went to pay for a second airlift in September 1960.

~more at the link~

chickenhead
05-27-2008, 07:27 PM
talk about a meaningless bs job if there ever was one..so it was Buchenwald instead.

He mixed up Buchenwald and Auschwitz. Gimme a break.

:sleeping:

Tom
05-27-2008, 07:59 PM
I think that might not be a good idea for the man with his finger on the button to be confused about geographical locations!

But if it really happened, I think he would get iti right. Sounds like a script he forgot.

chickenhead
05-27-2008, 08:10 PM
I think the RNC already admitted that yes his great unc was in the first group at Buchenwald.

He mixed it up himself, his family history has been a little jumbled over the years, who cares. Bush would have said his Uncle had liberated Disneyland, at least Obama got the theme right.

If I listened to my uncle, we'd have won 'Nam if they'd only 've let him off the supply boat. :sleeping:

Tom
05-27-2008, 09:24 PM
Like he mixed up the vets he was speaking to Molday with "dead people?"
He said he saw many of the "fallen" in the audience. I think we have Rutabega II here.:lol:

46zilzal
05-27-2008, 10:29 PM
talk about a meaningless bs job if there ever was one..so it was Buchenwald instead.

He mixed up Buchenwald and Auschwitz. Gimme a break.


This memorial in a Polish church has both and could have easily mixed it up as Birkenau is close to the same pronunciation.

JustRalph
05-27-2008, 10:51 PM
I think it is more about the larger issue. This is just another in the string of politicians that pull this kind of crap. It is reminiscent of the snake oil salesmen traveling the early American west. Making promises and pretending to cure what ills the mesmerized crowd. We have even seen the hidden accomplice rise from the crowd with doubt and inquiry only to be won over by the salesperson i.e. Hillary Clinton's planting of questions in town hall forums early in the campaign. It's the giant flim-flam come full circle and updated to and for the new century.

No matter the office, the issue or venue...........this constant reach for more relevance and attribution by citing personal links to events and story-lines is a trend that is so often practiced that the larger population forgets the basics and buys into the mob mentality that accompanies these speeches. Is there not one person in the crowd that can withstand the oratorical siren song of these politicians? Apparently not. For God Sake, John Edwards stood on a stage and proclaimed that John Kerry would cure paralysis if elected???? He didn't say "we will change the rules so that stem cell research can begin on a larger scale" He flat out said that people like Christopher Reeve would walk again. Amazing!

The Internet articles and posts in forums such as this are the collective sound of those doubters who are not caught up on the crowd and are exclaiming the appropriate response to messages and hypotheses like those uttered by John Edwards. The digital equivalence of somebody standing up in the crowd and yelling "Bullshit! "

toetoe
05-30-2008, 04:10 PM
chick,

Don't malign my favorite journalist. I don't care about Auchincloss (or whomever), but I won't have the great Art Buchenwald's name sullied. :mad: