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Tom
05-14-2008, 09:58 AM
Congress yesterday voted to halt sending oil to the strategic reserve.
They also voted down drilling in Anwar ( by 4 votes) and have refused to consider a gas tax holiday.

The dem congress is telling us thier priorities are:

1. Stealing money from us
2. Doing all they can to continue our dependance on foreign oil
3. Pay lip service to high gas prices but not do anything to lower them
4. Ignore national defence

Is this a warm up for Barry Hussein's surrender of America?
I think it is.

Lefty
05-14-2008, 11:32 AM
These dims, looking out for us, right. They promised us a simple solution to the gas problem. THEY LIED. THEY BETRAYED THIS COUNTRY.
When dims talk change it's best to hold on to your change.

46zilzal
05-14-2008, 11:39 AM
You seem to have left out a relevant stat: the Senate voted 97 to 1 on this

Lefty
05-14-2008, 11:44 AM
Well, boys, the Pres wants to drill at Anwar for our oil and use our own resources. So don't try to blame high gas prices on him. It's imperative we get a Super Majority in the House and Senate. Otherwise it's the same old bovine feces.

ljb
05-14-2008, 12:10 PM
You seem to have left out a relevant stat: the Senate voted 97 to 1 on this
Things are starting to look better. Yeehaw !!! :jump: :jump: :jump:

DJofSD
05-14-2008, 12:22 PM
Actually, this is an intelligent move. Why do you want to stock pile expensive oil?

Tom
05-14-2008, 02:12 PM
DJ,
For national defense.
If push came to shove, we would need all the oil we could get our hands on.
We could be serioulsy hurt by a middle east stopage, or a Chinneses blockade, or whatever.

This isn't a financial issue. Our military runs on oil, as does our whole country.

Tom
05-14-2008, 02:18 PM
You seem to have left out a relevant stat: the Senate voted 97 to 1 on this

No, I said this: "( by 4 votes) " which is what I heard on the news.

delayjf
05-14-2008, 03:56 PM
Things are starting to look better. Yeehaw !!!
The enviromentalist maybe the downfall of this country yet. The left wing socialist amoung us know the only way to kill the US Democracy is from within. For all their talk about fuel alternatives, there is nothing on the horizon that will replace oil anytime soon (next 10 years) Except an increase in drilling.

JustRalph
05-14-2008, 04:01 PM
Delay, they eventually would have to face those with the guns...........game over. But they can make us all miserable in the meantime.

JustRalph
05-14-2008, 04:08 PM
Actually, this is an intelligent move. Why do you want to stock pile expensive oil?

This is an overblown issue. The reserve is at 96% from what I read. But there is precedent for stocking fuel resources.

General Patton was stopped cold in August of 1944 when the 3rd Army ran out of gas while in France. Today Air Force units would be the ones burning up all the fuel. The Navy could still move into the middle east and blow to hell anything within reach without using much fuel. This would solve the oil problem.........but it would take months to gin up production.

DJofSD
05-14-2008, 04:13 PM
Gasify coal -- plenty of fuel then.

prospector
05-14-2008, 04:44 PM
Gasify coal -- plenty of fuel then.
its the one thing that makes sense...coal is our most under used asset, but the enviromentalist left runs the dems in congress...if it makes sense, they're against it..

robert99
05-14-2008, 06:13 PM
The enviromentalist maybe the downfall of this country yet. The left wing socialist amoung us know the only way to kill the US Democracy is from within. For all their talk about fuel alternatives, there is nothing on the horizon that will replace oil anytime soon (next 10 years) Except an increase in drilling.

Western democracies have been moribund in democratic terms for decades. The US has a choice of 2 peas in a pod every 4 years and that's about as far as representation of the peoples' views ever gets. Socialists are very democratic and have a Christian ethic of helping all but not at the expense of exploiting the little guy. The enemies of USA are right in there pushing globalisation for their own ends; paying politicians to push for more globalisation, importing on the cheap to avoid US home investment, tax avoidance on a heroic scale, exporting jobs and skills and driving wages down, except their own which reach the stratosphere. Have you never wondered why the alternatives to gasoline are not around already?

Snag
05-14-2008, 06:35 PM
We need another Contract With/For America like Newt gave us. Only then will we stop this one off voting on individual items.

I really don't care who does it but it is time for someone to stand up and take charge.

ljb
05-14-2008, 07:02 PM
We need another Contract With/For America like Newt gave us. Only then will we stop this one off voting on individual items.

I really don't care who does it but it is time for someone to stand up and take charge.
hang on, help is on the way.

delayjf
05-14-2008, 07:21 PM
Have you never wondered why the alternatives to gasoline are not around already?
American has not been motivated until recent years to develop an alternative. If we had a viable one right now, today, it would still be years before it would be fully implimented.

How about the rest of the world? The UK is still paying more for Gas than the US, same with about every other European nation.

Lefty
05-14-2008, 07:27 PM
Gasify coal -- plenty of fuel then.
The wackos won't let us use thoseeither. Clinton put the low sulpher coal reserves out of bounds.

prospector
05-14-2008, 08:14 PM
The wackos won't let us use thoseeither. Clinton put the low sulpher coal reserves out of bounds.
the same clinton who said opening up alaska wouldn't do any good..."it'd be over 10 years till we saw results"...well...its over 10 years and we're still talking about opening an area the size of a postage stamp on a tennis court..enough already...open it up..if those deer get in the way, feed them to the pipeline workers..

JustRalph
05-14-2008, 09:01 PM
hang on, help is on the way.

I thought the help was already here? Remember that last election? Pelosi and Reid were going to save us from high gas prices, the mortgage mess and all of those high prices..................where are they??????

ljb
05-15-2008, 07:55 AM
I thought the help was already here? Remember that last election? Pelosi and Reid were going to save us from high gas prices, the mortgage mess and all of those high prices..................where are they??????
Please show me where any of these promises were made. The last election was a move in the correct direction. The recent Democrat victories in traditional Republican districts is a continuation of that move. You know full well Ralph, the veto power of this President still controls what congress can do. Do not try to blame this on the Dems.

Tom
05-15-2008, 09:36 AM
Help from Obama?
That guy is as ignorant as all get out!

57 states.....2 more to go. Duh!
Thinks the current housing "crisis" is like the great depression. Duh!
Thinks great depression was caused by tax cuts for the rich. Double-Duh!
Thinks we need to bring the troops home from Iraq so we can send the arabic interpreters to help in Afghanistan, even though they do not speak arabic there. Duh!

The product of a biased liberal educational system. :lol:

ljb
05-15-2008, 09:45 AM
Tom,
I am still enjoying your attempts at slandering Obama. Can I expect this to continue for the next 8 years ? :lol:

Tom
05-15-2008, 10:06 AM
It ain't slander if it is true.
Obama and his lock-step zombies do not handle the truth too well. :lol:

Denies his own middlename, denies his spititual leader, throws his gramma under the bus, then throw his spiritual leader under it, too.

Now I hear he has promised Edwards an appointment for his support - Secretary of Shampoo and Conditioners.

As Rev Wright would say "GD split ends!"

ljb
05-15-2008, 11:06 AM
Tommy,
Your whining is the most pleasure i have had since i listened to McSame telling us about Iran training al queda. Only to be corrected by his "lifeline" Lie berman
. keep it up tommy, the joy continues. :jump: :jump: :jump:

kenwoodallpromos
05-15-2008, 12:09 PM
Everyone wants to blame the politicians- but look in the mirror- who keeps voting for either incumbents/relatives=lawyers=persons who held a job in the private sector= big businessmen. They all cater to the special interests, select groups and occupations, foreigners, the rich, and profit-takers.
All 3 candidates and almost all of Congress are the above.
It is the voters' fault as always.

Tom
05-15-2008, 12:36 PM
Hold the phone, Ken......give me two or three nincompoops to vote for and then blame ME?

I don't think so. Anyone with any intelligence, leadership, or creativity has left politics. We have the slimey residue left in DC.

JustRalph
05-15-2008, 12:46 PM
Please show me where any of these promises were made. The last election was a move in the correct direction. The recent Democrat victories in traditional Republican districts is a continuation of that move. You know full well Ralph, the veto power of this President still controls what congress can do. Do not try to blame this on the Dems.

From this link:

http://www.house.gov/pelosi/press/releases/April06/Rubberstamp.html

“Democrats have a commonsense plan to help bring down skyrocketing gas prices by cracking down on price gouging, rolling back the billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies, tax breaks and royalty relief given to big oil and gas companies, and increasing production of alternative fuels.”

ljb
05-15-2008, 01:07 PM
ok, dems have a plan. bush has a veto. but not to worry, bush is on the way out!

DJofSD
05-15-2008, 01:09 PM
ok, dems have a plan. bush has a veto. but not to worry, bush is on the way out!

If the dems had any balls they'd override the veto.

delayjf
05-15-2008, 01:39 PM
“Democrats have a commonsense plan to help bring down skyrocketing gas prices by cracking down on price gouging, rolling back the billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies, tax breaks and royalty relief given to big oil and gas companies, and increasing production of alternative fuels.”

Problem is their plan is all show, how many times has Congress summoned the Oil exes to DC to parade in front of the Press, how many investigations have they conducted on the oil companies. All this on the front cover of the newspapers to show the American public that "they" are on top of things -yet to date no evidense of price gouging has ever been uncovered. But when the investigation is completed and nothing is found - does the press ever carry that story in the front page?

I'm starting to wonder if where looking at the wrong folks. Maybe we should investigate the Enviromental Wackos to see how heavily they are invested in the oil companies. After all, it's there polices that have lead us to where we are today.

DJofSD
05-15-2008, 01:45 PM
Problem is their plan is all show, how many times has Congress summoned the Oil exes to DC to parade in front of the Press, how many investigations have they conducted on the oil companies. All this on the front cover of the newspapers to show the American public that "they" are on top of things -yet to date no evidense of price gouging has ever been uncovered. But when the investigation is completed and nothing is found - does the press ever carry that story in the front page?

The Bard best described it this way:

To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

William Shakespeare, "Macbeth", Act 5 scene 5