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Track Phantom
04-28-2008, 09:13 PM
If you get a chance, watch the replay of the 6th at MTR on Monday, 4-28. If you ever wanted to see what action a horse has when he is juiced to the gil, watch the winner of the race. Totally beaten before the turn, hard ridden for half a mile and runs down a fresh closer moving on the outside.

The horse was claimed in last by a 33% no name trainer and bet off the board. Combine that with the winner of the 2nd race (horse ran three times and was beaten 31 lengths in EACH of his starts). Changed to a trainer that used to be an 11% trainer from 2002 to 2007 but was a 32% trainer in the last year. The horse was bet down to 5-2 and won going away.

How can these be on the up and up? It appears pretty obviously fishy...

lamboguy
04-28-2008, 09:16 PM
how about the horse had jsut put on about 100 pounds since his last race. how about louis ruberto one of the top trainers in this country. how about he takes his horses and trains them up and down hills, until they are perfectly fit. how about a guy that don't use steroids.WHY CAN'T OTHER TRAINERS PERFORM LIKE MR. RUBERTO

keilan
04-28-2008, 09:30 PM
tri -- 7-9/7-9/1-2-5

x's 7-9/7-9-5

keilan
04-28-2008, 09:34 PM
If you get a chance, watch the replay of the 6th at MTR on Monday, 4-28. If you ever wanted to see what action a horse has when he is juiced to the gil, watch the winner of the race. Totally beaten before the turn, hard ridden for half a mile and runs down a fresh closer moving on the outside.

The horse was claimed in last by a 33% no name trainer and bet off the board. Combine that with the winner of the 2nd race (horse ran three times and was beaten 31 lengths in EACH of his starts). Changed to a trainer that used to be an 11% trainer from 2002 to 2007 but was a 32% trainer in the last year. The horse was bet down to 5-2 and won going away.

How can these be on the up and up? It appears pretty obviously fishy...


I don't know whether the 6 was juiced or not but I keyed the horse on top. You'll just have to take my word on that :)

keilan
04-28-2008, 09:50 PM
5/6 cold x's

keilan
04-28-2008, 09:53 PM
hey lambo -- got your Derby horse yet? :)

njcurveball
04-28-2008, 10:02 PM
Changed to a trainer that used to be an 11% trainer from 2002 to 2007 but was a 32% trainer in the last year. The horse was bet down to 5-2 and won going away.



I dont know where you got these stats but Ruberto has been a high percentage trainer there for many more years than you give him credit. Where did you get the 11% figure?

lamboguy
04-28-2008, 10:04 PM
i think pyro is a cinch!

the california horse had a great workout, but has run some big races, and been working great, so i will try to toss him out.

big brown is a nice horse as well, but he beat the worst florida derby field i have ever seen in my life. i will toss him as well..

if pyro wins i will hit the high 5!!!! nice to see you here again

keilan
04-28-2008, 10:11 PM
I played pryo last year in the juv.. I think

I'll start looking after the card is available.

Good to see u as well, lets chat before next Saturday :)

lamboguy
04-28-2008, 10:17 PM
i will call you after they draw the post positions, i know you are good at this so don't be afraid to talk me off pyro, but for now i really don't see anythign beating him.


this guy sherman has been good, i will go with the 1 in the ninth at the mountain tonight

keilan
04-28-2008, 10:21 PM
9th -- 1-2/1-2-3 x's

10th 1-2-3-/7 DD

lamboguy
04-28-2008, 10:23 PM
uncle louis in the 10th would be one tall order. he got beat non winners at penn and now stepping up to nw2. man is a legend in his own time, gonna go against him though with the 6+9

keilan
04-28-2008, 10:24 PM
this guy sherman has been good, i will go with the 1 in the ninth at the mountain tonight


The 2 horse has more to give, I'm leaning towards a win wager as well

lamboguy
04-28-2008, 10:27 PM
great call

keilan
04-28-2008, 10:32 PM
thanx Phil


That gets me close to even now the DD would be nice

keilan
04-28-2008, 10:46 PM
10th --

tri 4-7/4-7-1-2-3-5-6-9/4-7-1-2-3-5-6-9

x's 4-7 box

4 to win and place

keilan
04-28-2008, 10:53 PM
uncle louis in the 10th would be one tall order. he got beat non winners at penn and now stepping up to nw2. man is a legend in his own time, gonna go against him though with the 6+9


nice call

keilan
04-28-2008, 10:54 PM
Talk with u later Phil :ThmbUp:

takeout
04-29-2008, 01:53 AM
If you get a chance, watch the replay of the 6th at MTR on Monday, 4-28. If you ever wanted to see what action a horse has when he is juiced to the gil, watch the winner of the race.
What a co-inkeedink. Went to the Twin Spires video race library and it was the only race that wouldn’t come up. Things that make you go hmm...

takeout
04-29-2008, 02:10 AM
Must’ve been me. It’s working now. :blush: