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bellsbendboy
04-27-2008, 10:45 AM
Works for today (Sunday) are up on the drf site and the "colonel" breezed five eights in fifty-seven and change out in one eleven and a tick! Now the question is who gets up for second. BBB

lamboguy
04-27-2008, 11:03 AM
and now you expect the horse to run a 1 1/4 miles off that work next saturday!


maybe the track was lightning fast, the time doesn't really mean that much anyway, its how he did the work.

ny0707ny
04-27-2008, 05:55 PM
Works for today (Sunday) are up on the drf site and the "colonel" breezed five eights in fifty-seven and change out in one eleven and a tick! Now the question is who gets up for second. BBB

This was some surprise to wake up to on a slow Sunday here. I was waiting for his first dirt workout. I am 95% sure of him as my pick now.

bellsbendboy
04-28-2008, 05:59 PM
Lambo Guy

The video of the work is up on the churchill website. Personally, I would rank it very favorably to the Derby week works of Barbaro and "Sense. It was one of the top ten Derby works in the last decade or two.

As for the Colonel's chances.... he is a bit short on number power and they all are susceptible to a bad draw or break, but the positives are plenty. The strapping son of Tiznow is one of a handful that will stay ten panels and as of now he is STRICTLY the one to beat. BBB

ManeMediaMogul
04-28-2008, 07:07 PM
Two big races off the layoff then a plethora of fast works..looks like Colonel John will be dried up like a raisin on Derby Day.

Out of the money finish predicted.

ny0707ny
04-28-2008, 07:18 PM
Two big races off the layoff then a plethora of fast works..looks like Colonel John will be dried up like a raisin on Derby Day.

Out of the money finish predicted.

Hard Spun had a faster work by 1/5 of a second last year and ran 2nd in the Derby. His workout was also sooner so he had less time to recover. CJ will have more time. A big workout like that before the Derby means a giant race coming up. I just have to worry about the weather for Saturday. If the track is wet, all bets are off as to who will win.

The WindfallAngler
04-28-2008, 08:07 PM
Two big races off the layoff then a plethora of fast works..looks like Colonel John will be dried up like a raisin on Derby Day.

Out of the money finish predicted.

Do tell.

Would you care to reveal the names of the hides that you think are capable of making THAT happen?

No, seriously! I'm filling out the tail end of my super- and trifecta combinations.

What I'm wondering is, can Big Brown "save the show" -- after he misses the trip? -- or is it safe,to just single BB. ...as 4th Horse? (and then probe for a price in the slots ahead of him?)

Personally, I didn't need the Colonel's 5f 57:&-change work, to make me a believer (...although we've been listening to that "synthetic specialist" crock for so long now; it's not so surprising there'd be a dirt- "convincer" in the runup, by which to damp down some of that noise.)

Seriously, may the best horse win.:)

Only, I do look for Colonel John to run down the sprinter-types, including Big Brown, in the Derby -- assuming Nakatami's timing is at its best, of course -- and then have ample "reserves" to turn back a resurrected Pyro, and deep closers.

CJ looks fine for the Belmont Stakes, for that matter; it's the Preakness I'm worried about. ...But your mileage may vary.:jump:

ny0707ny
04-28-2008, 08:19 PM
Do tell.

Would you care to reveal the names of the hides that you think are capable of making THAT happen?

No, seriously! I'm filling out the tail end of my super- and trifecta combinations.

What I'm wondering is, can Big Brown "save the show" -- after he misses the trip? -- or is it safe,to just single BB. ...as 4th Horse? (and then probe for a price in the slots ahead of him?)

Personally, I didn't need the Colonel's 5f 57:&-change work, to make me a believer (...although we've been listening to that "synthetic specialist" crock for so long now; it's not so surprising there'd be a dirt- "convincer" in the runup, by which to damp down some of that noise.)

Seriously, may the best horse win.:)

Only, I do look for Colonel John to run down the sprinter-types, including Big Brown, in the Derby -- assuming Nakatami's timing is at its best, of course -- and then have ample "reserves" to turn back a resurrected Pyro, and deep closers.

CJ looks fine for the Belmont Stakes, for that matter; it's the Preakness I'm worried about. ...But your mileage may vary.:jump:

Nakatami is pretty good. I think the Colonel is in good hands! :jump: Big Brown can get 2nd or 3rd spot. The field is so weak this year I am thinking after Colonel John, anyone can have a shot if he does not win. Any horse getting blocked in a wide trip can cost them the race. So even on paper while CJ looks best to me, he will still need luck like everyone else that nothing goes wrong.

Shenanigans
04-28-2008, 08:44 PM
You folks that think Colonel John's work cost him the Derby really don't get it. Some horses work fast in all their works. The Derby is a week away after this work. What makes you think he will be "drained" for the derby??? He didn't work a mile.:rolleyes:
Face it, this horse out of all of them has Derby written all over him. His pedigree, his race record and most of all his looks. His conformation is all Derby. This horse will win.

jonnielu
04-28-2008, 08:53 PM
Hard Spun had a faster work by 1/5 of a second last year and ran 2nd in the Derby. His workout was also sooner so he had less time to recover. CJ will have more time. A big workout like that before the Derby means a giant race coming up. I just have to worry about the weather for Saturday. If the track is wet, all bets are off as to who will win.

I think that you should send it in with both hands, get in there up to your neck, don't pay any attention to how speedy horses run at CD.

jdl

Ned Locke
04-28-2008, 10:00 PM
He mighta gone a little fast. Six days to the Derby and he may not have totally recouped from that blowout by the First Saturday in May.

His trainer is concerned.


Works for today (Sunday) are up on the drf site and the "colonel" breezed five eights in fifty-seven and change out in one eleven and a tick! Now the question is who gets up for second. BBB