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Amazin
02-14-2003, 12:58 PM
My homemade computer program returns a +15% R.O.I..The hit rate is 60% using 2 horses.Can anyone tell me a mathematical formula to figure out what the average odds are of the horses it's picking.Obviously some are too low(odds on and I'm losing money there,but I bet them as a cover to minimize the loss in case the other horse doesn't win).My point is to figure out what odds would be acceptable to raise the R.O.I. to say 30%.
Are you serious? Let me get this straight. You are smart enough to write a computer program. The program is so good it produces a 15% profit. You are smart enough to calculate the hit rate and ROI. Yet, you can't figure out the answer to the question you asked? Sounds strange.
CJ:confused: :confused: :confused:
To answer the question, if you are serious, your average winner is paying $7.66, which is 2.83 to 1.
CJ
Amazin
02-14-2003, 01:18 PM
Cj
I didn't actually write the program.A friend and fellow horseplayer of mine who was curious about my ideas did at no charge.I told him exactly what I wanted I.E.Sartin and Brohamer figures etc.The first time we used it,it Nailed the K.Derby when the 10-1 and 60-1 ran 1st and second(forget their names a couple of years ago) It also nailed Valponi on top.This has exceeded myexpectations.However I have to give credit to Sartin and Brohamer.I combined their theories in a formula and it is powerful.But yes I'm dumb enough not figure out the math question.
Amazin
02-14-2003, 01:22 PM
Cj
Thanks for the answer,but I was looking for the mathematical formula
1.15 = Your ROI
60% is win %
I used a 100 race sample. Betting $2 on two horses each race, you bet $400. You would get back $460 based on your ROI. I took the $460 divided by 60, the number of winners you would have at your rate in the sample. This equals 7.66..., the average payoff. I'm sure it can be converted into a formula, I'll figure it out a little later if noone else already has.
CJ
andicap
02-14-2003, 02:12 PM
I'm no math whiz,
but 60% winners with 2 horses bet is the equal of
a 30% win rate.
Out of every 100 races he wins 60. 2 horses a race so its 60/200=30%
.30 wins times 7.66 average price = 2.30 or 30 cents on $2 bet. Or $15 cents on the dollars.
right????
so its .30 times (X) = 2.30
if your profit goal is 30%
its. .30 times X -- 2.60
correct?????
Andi
I was going by this:
My homemade computer program returns a +15% R.O.I..The hit rate is 60% using 2 horses.Can anyone tell me a mathematical formula to figure out what the average odds are of the horses it's picking.
To get his ROI to 30%, the average winner would have to pay 8.66..., or 3.33 to 1.
Sounds good on paper, good luck trying it though!
CJ
rrbauer
02-14-2003, 03:29 PM
The average odds per play are:
.6n = 1.15
n = 1.15 / .6
n = 1.92
Based on the information provided you can't say much else.
formula_2002
02-16-2003, 07:04 AM
the formula is;
Edge=win% x odds –(1-win%)
where edge= what most people call roi
.15=.60 x odds –(.40)
.55=.60 odds
ave odds= .916-1 (for combination of two horses)
odds= 1.83 for one horse. (providing they win equally)
For an edge of .30 at the same win rate
.30=.60 odds
ave odds= .50 -1 for two horses
odds = 1-1 for one horse
Joe M
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