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bigmack
02-17-2008, 03:20 PM
Curious how much weight ya'll put on L1. If I remember correctly, cj says he gives em 2 lengths. I like that way of thinking, but it's tough to use with maidens.

cj
02-17-2008, 03:42 PM
It is tough...kind of like projecting improvement for 2nd time starters. But, for me, and I studied a BUNCH of 1st L horses, the average is between 7-8 Beyer points, or about 3 lengths in a sprint.

Others have found you can pretty much ignore 1st time starters that aren't getting Lasix.

BillW
02-17-2008, 04:09 PM
It is tough...kind of like projecting improvement for 2nd time starters. But, for me, and I studied a BUNCH of 1st L horses, the average is between 7-8 Beyer points, or about 3 lengths in a sprint.

Others have found you can pretty much ignore 1st time starters that aren't getting Lasix.

Have you looked at an equivalent control group (lasix to lasix, and non-lasix to non-lasix) to see what improvement took place with them?