How low can you go

[46zilzal]

http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/stoptorture/2008/02/07/attorney-general-refuses-to-rule-out-beating-of-detainees/

[riskman]

I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce. :confused:

[Tom]

I think there is no limit on how low terrosists can go, so thank goodness we have a guy here willing to do what it neccessary to protect innocent people from them.

Funny, I don't ever remember "Cliffy" here posting any outrage at all over beheadings, slavery, terror attacks, using mentally ill women as bombs.....very strange what he focuses on.

[JustRalph]

Compared to cutting off heads............? I see a lack of aggresion on our part.......we need to ramp it up

[RaceBookJoe]

Compared to cutting off heads............? I see a lack of aggresion on our part.......we need to ramp it up

No kidding, like a wise man once said " Everybody's got a plan....until you punch them in the mouth"

[JustRalph]

No kidding, like a wise man once said " Everybody's got a plan....until you punch them in the mouth"

A wise man? That was Mike Tyson........ :lol: But it makes it no less accurate

[King Ritchie]

While your at work your wife, 5 year old daughter, 2 year old son, your new baby girl, your parents are preparing a birthday party for you. Five Terrorists with hoods and all break into your house and capture your family. They then burry your entire family in a shallow grave with enough air to last 4 hours. When one of the terrorists makes a phone call for ransom he is captured by police while tracing the call. Now the question: To what extreme do you go to save your family?

[PaceAdvantage]

How low can I go? Well, I could vote for Hillary or Obama...that's about as low as I can go, I believe....

[46zilzal]

While your at work your wife, 5 year old daughter, 2 year old son, your new baby girl, your parents are preparing a birthday party for you. Five Terrorists with hoods and all break into your house and capture your family. They then burry your entire family in a shallow grave with enough air to last 4 hours. When one of the terrorists makes a phone call for ransom he is captured by police while tracing the call. Now the question: To what extreme do you go to save your family?
You have terrorists in your neighborhood? Strange.

[GaryG]

You have terrorists in your neighborhood? Strange.Not that strange.....you may have some in yours.

[hcap]

While your at work your wife, 5 year old daughter, 2 year old son, your new baby girl, your parents are preparing a birthday party for you. Five Terrorists with hoods and all break into your house and capture your family. They then burry your entire family in a shallow grave with enough air to last 4 hours. When one of the terrorists makes a phone call for ransom he is captured by police while tracing the call. Now the question: To what extreme do you go to save your family?Replace the words "Five Terrorists" with "Five Criminals" and it is a familiar police situation. What would professional Police departments do?

Forms of coercion are necessary in desperate situations. When the government engages in forms already deemed against the law, at least transparency and oversight is required. Many times situations are no where near as desperate as you portray, and many times the forms are illegal. It would be nice to know how many times the administration broke the law on their claim of "the means justifies the ends".

Before you cite Rare and EXTREME situations to justify your EXTREME argument be aware of the civil rights slipery slope you are accepting.

[shanta]

Before you cite Rare and EXTREME situations to justify your EXTREME argument be aware of the civil rights slipery slope you are accepting.

If KR's situation played out there are NO civil rights for the abductor. He's just forfeited all of them.

Torture,drugging,maiming are all now in play and fully justifiable in my book.

[ljb]

Kr,
Your paranoia is not becoming of you. And then, just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not really out to get you. :D :D :D

[JustRalph]

Replace the words "Five Terrorists" with "Five Criminals" and it is a familiar police situation.

Familiar? Where? Maybe in Detroit. In certain neighborhoods. Almost never in most areas. Home invasions occur regular now. But almost never are the bad guys still there when the police arrive. And most home invasions are drug related.

[Tom]

Whatever it takes. No matter who the bad guy is. Operative word here is bad.
At some point, the "presumption" of innocence is just plain ridiculous. We are far to easy on criminals in this country.

I read an article in the Post today - a cop killer from 1973 is getting out. Funny, the cop is still dead.

[skate]

Which brings the question, "how could a responsible Republican vote for McMcain"/

[PaceAdvantage]

Which brings the question, "how could a responsible Republican vote for McMcain"/Who else is he going to vote for? Barry? Hillary? Get real....

[King Ritchie]

Replace the words "Five Terrorists" with "Five Criminals" and it is a familiar police situation. What would professional Police departments do?

Forms of coercion are necessary in desperate situations. When the government engages in forms already deemed against the law, at least transparency and oversight is required. Many times situations are no where near as desperate as you portray, and many times the forms are illegal. It would be nice to know how many times the administration broke the law on their claim of "the means justifies the ends".

Before you cite Rare and EXTREME situations to justify your EXTREME argument be aware of the civil rights slipery slope you are accepting.


Typical liberal response - Spin-it, don't answer the question and talk over the other guy ...............as your family gasps for their last breath. Now the question becomes did YOU kill your family or was it the terrorists?

[King Ritchie]

Whatever it takes. No matter who the bad guy is. Operative word here is bad.
At some point, the "presumption" of innocence is just plain ridiculous. We are far to easy on criminals in this country.

I read an article in the Post today - a cop killer from 1973 is getting out. Funny, the cop is still dead.

An answer to the question! A true conservative and patriot - proud to be an American.

[King Ritchie]

You have terrorists in your neighborhood? Strange.

Typical liberal - no answer to the question.

[taxseason]

While your at work your wife, 5 year old daughter, 2 year old son, your new baby girl, your parents are preparing a birthday party for you. Five Terrorists with hoods and all break into your house and capture your family. They then burry your entire family in a shallow grave with enough air to last 4 hours. When one of the terrorists makes a phone call for ransom he is captured by police while tracing the call. Now the question: To what extreme do you go to save your family?

Can a non-liberal answer?

I'd swap the ransom for my family. Would'nt you?

[skate]

Who else is he going to vote for? Barry? Hillary? Get real....

that avoids the question, no?

gees, my answer "anybody". Hey, vote for Richard Pryor and that would be fine , i can understand.
But,,,mcCain:faint: , how does that figure?

seems to me, we have some putrefaction out there and you want me to pick from that?

No tanks

[skate]

Typical liberal - no answer to the question.


Exactly , and thanks.

now i can breath again.


And and and, it doesn't make the Repubs " a hell of a lot better".

They do however, at least make some sense.