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joeya
02-05-2008, 10:03 PM
KY Derby Future Wager Pool 1 Odds

1 Anak Nakal 20-1
2 Blackberry Road 20-1
3 Bob Black Jack 50-1
4 Colonel John 30-1
5 Court Vision 12-1
6 Cowboy Cal 20-1
7 Crown of Thorns 20-1
8 Denis of Cork 30-1
9 El Gato Malo 15-1
10 Etched 15-1
11 Georgie Boy 20-1
12 Giant Moon 20-1
13 Into Mischief 20-1
14 Majestic Warrior 15-1
15 Monba 30-1
16 Pyro 12-1
17 Signature Move 50-1
18 Smooth Air 20-1
19 Tale of Ekati 20-1
20 War Pass 12-1
21 Yankee Bravo 20-1
22 Z Fortune 20-1
23 Z Humor 15-1
24 All other 3-year-olds 5-2

joeya
02-05-2008, 10:13 PM
Have no real problem with anyone on this intial list, but there are two horses with nothing but maiden wins and three others with nothing but allowance wins ...

How can they not have Turf War listed as an individual betting interest? This colt won the Delta Jackpot in a dead-heat with Z Humor and based on those earnings he is practically guaranteed a spot in the Derby starting gate if he stays healthy.

FlyinLate
02-05-2008, 10:30 PM
3 Bob Black Jack 50-1
15 Monba 30-1
19 Tale of Ekati 20-1


These are the 3 horses I'm going to put a few dollars on. Don't get me wrong, I'd never invest any kind of real money in these pools, let alone the first one, but for these odds these 3 I feel worthy for a couple $5 win bets.

jognlope
02-05-2008, 10:41 PM
Giant Moon for me.

firstofftheclaim
02-06-2008, 09:15 AM
Texas Wildcatter for me.

phatbastard
02-06-2008, 10:19 AM
...for the 1st time that i can remember, i really don't have or find any strong opinions @ this time of the year

MakinItHappen
02-06-2008, 11:13 AM
Winning Payout Pool 1 Pool 2 Pool 3 Derby Payout
2007 Street Sense $22.80 $18.20 $15.40 $11.80*
2006 Barbaro $40.20 $32.20 $20.80 $14.20
2005 Giacomo $52.00 $54.20 $103.60 $102.60
2004 Smarty Jones $5.60 (f) $10.80 (f) $23.60 $10.20*
2003 Funny Cide $188.00 $120.80 $107.40 $27.60
2002 War Emblem $7.60 (f)* $16.00 (f) $24.00 (f) $43.00
2001 Monarchos $36.60 $13.00 $15.80 $23.00
2000 Fusaichi Pegasus $27.80 $26.40 $ 8.00* $ 6.60*
1999 Charismatic $10.20 (f)* $30.20 (f) $26.60 (f) $64.60

(f) – Mutuel field *Favorite

Observations:
The field ROI is $2.43 for every $1 invested.
The field has won 3 of the 9 years.
The field has not cashed in the last 3 Derbies.
Of the 27 individual pools on which futures betting has been conducted, only once has a favored individual betting interest won the Derby (2000 Pool 3 Fusaichi Pegasus at 3-1).
Four of the 9 Derby winners closed Pool 1 with odds in the range of 10-1 to 18-1.
Last year 10 of the 23 individual betting interests in Pool 1 started in the Derby.

Best of Luck To Everyone!

MakinItHappen

Niko
02-11-2008, 03:04 PM
Colonel John and Into Mischief for Me. Can pretty much gaurantee they'll each win a derby prep race if they dont' get hurt.

FlyinLate
02-11-2008, 04:40 PM
I waited until about 10 minutes before the betting closed and only made two small wagers that I thought may be worth it.

Into Mischief at 25-1 and Tale of Ekati at 33-1

I went to bet Pyro after his killer run Saturday and almost fell over when I saw 5-1. I feel bad for those who bet him. There's a good chance he'll go over that price on derby day after knowing he does over the next couple months.

iamserious
02-21-2008, 05:54 PM
War Pass for me!