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highnote
01-31-2008, 09:55 PM
This is one of the better articles I've read on issues involving the Mexican / U.S. border.

http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/geopolitics_dope

"Over recent months, the level of violence along the U.S.-Mexican border has begun to rise substantially, with some of it spilling into the United States. Last week, the Mexican government began military operations on its side of the border against Mexican gangs engaged in smuggling drugs into the United States. The action apparently pushed some of the gang members north into the United States in a bid for sanctuary. Low-level violence is endemic to the border region. But while not without precedent, movement of organized, armed cadres into the United States on this scale goes beyond what has become accepted practice. The dynamics in the borderland are shifting and must be understood in a broader, geopolitical context."

Tom
01-31-2008, 10:36 PM
We have a foreign ARMY terrorizing and kidnapping US citizens in our our own country, and this is not making the news, not being address by our Moron-N-Chief, nor the dipstick candidates. When the hell did we surrender????


Ya gotta see this one coming.......NUKE MEXICO!!!!!!

highnote
01-31-2008, 11:08 PM
The U.S. is not going to nuke a major trading partner.

The author writes:

There always have been uncontrolled economic transactions and movements along the border. Both sides understood that the cost of controlling and monitoring these transactions outstripped the benefit. Long before NAFTA came into existence, social and economic movement in both directions - but particularly from Mexico to the United States - were fairly uncontrolled. Borderland transactions in particular, local transactions in proximity to the border region (retail shopping, agricultural transfers and so on), were uncontrolled. So was smuggling. Trade in stolen U.S. cars and parts shipped into Mexico, labor from Mexico shipped into the United States, etc., were seen as tolerable costs for an open border.

A low-friction border, one that easily could be traversed at low cost - without extended waits - was important to both sides. In 2006, the United States imported $198 billion in goods from Mexico and exported $134 billion to Mexico. This makes Mexico the third-largest trading partner of the United States and also makes it one of the more balanced major trade relationships the United States has. Loss of Mexican markets would hurt the U.S. economy substantially. The U.S. advantage in selling to Mexico is low-cost transport. Lose that through time delays at the border and the Mexican market becomes competitive for other countries. About 13 percent of all U.S. exports are bought by Mexico.

Tom
01-31-2008, 11:20 PM
Apparently, we will not do a thing to protect our citizens, either.
Isn't that treason by the supposed Commander-N-chief? What kind of lilly livered coward allows his own citizen to be put at risk like this? Oh, I forgot, Bush is a WHORE. :mad:

46zilzal
01-31-2008, 11:26 PM
Apparently, we will not do a thing to protect our citizens, either.
Isn't that treason by the supposed Commander-N-chief? What kind of lilly livered coward allows his own citizen to be put at risk like this? Oh, I forgot, Bush is a WHORE.

Many of us have known that for a very long time. The Initiative (signed and arranged as a treaty without any public vote), the loss of economic independence of Mexico, US and Canada, the new money (the Amero)....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsvZys5hF4Y

All done without a bit of congressional oversight. No wonder he never wants the border sealed.

yes, a whore...always has been from day one.

46zilzal
01-31-2008, 11:42 PM
Security and Prosperity Partnership.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q5eTXBOUP4&feature=related

highnote
01-31-2008, 11:47 PM
Apparently, we will not do a thing to protect our citizens, either.
Isn't that treason by the supposed Commander-N-chief? What kind of lilly livered coward allows his own citizen to be put at risk like this? Oh, I forgot, Bush is a WHORE. :mad:


From what the author says, things are getting so bad that the U.S. will have to consider taking military action.

The United States has been willing to tolerate levels of criminality along the border. The only time when the United States shifted its position was when organized groups in Mexico both established themselves north of the political border and engaged in significant violence. Thus, in 1916, when the Mexican revolutionary Pancho Villa began operations north of the border, the U.S. Army moved into Mexico to try to destroy his base of operations. This has been the line that, when crossed, motivated the United States to take action, regardless of the economic cost. The current upsurge in violence is now pushing that line.

It could get ugly.

JustRalph
02-01-2008, 12:20 AM
He is not a whore..........he is a high paid escort. helping to Escort Mexicans across the border

ljb
02-01-2008, 01:19 AM
Apparently, we will not do a thing to protect our citizens, either.
Isn't that treason by the supposed Commander-N-chief? What kind of lilly livered coward allows his own citizen to be put at risk like this? Oh, I forgot, Bush is a WHORE. :mad:
Tom,
We all know you hate Bush, get over it.

highnote
02-01-2008, 01:42 AM
Security and Prosperity Partnership.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q5eTXBOUP4&feature=related

I couldn't tell if those were the original audio/video clips or if someone voiced over the images.

Who was that guy ranting and raving at the beginning? Was that even his voice? It was way out of sync.

OTM Al
02-01-2008, 07:18 AM
The "Amero"????? You believe that is real? Here is the Amero in all its glory...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp

Go to the bottom and check out the fake state quarters. The guy has several on his website. Maine is the best.

kenwoodallpromos
02-01-2008, 11:52 AM
The U.S. is not going to nuke a major trading partner.

The author writes:
The speakeasys were a "a major trading partner" of Al Capone!!

highnote
02-01-2008, 12:27 PM
The "Amero"????? You believe that is real?

Some of the voice overs were pretty good. Especially, Lou Dobbs. Or was that really Lou Dobbs speaking?

46zilzal
02-01-2008, 12:37 PM
cnbc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98