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ddog
01-29-2008, 11:15 PM
Now that John "amigo" McCain looks very good for the nom , I got this email on immigration. Interesting stuff.

What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?

Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a
column titled, "Mexican Visitor's Lament" -- 10/25/07.

She interviewed Mexican journalist EvangelinaHernandez while
visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said, "They (illegal aliens) pay rent,
buy groceries, buy clothes...What Happens to your country's economy if 20
million people go away?" That's a good question - it deserves an answer.
Over 80 percent of Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration
stopped. But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America?
The answers may surprise you!

In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico, it would leave
an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems, bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner, safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another as English became the dominant language again.

In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and
grand-kids - would move back 'home', mostly to Mexico. That would save
Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 billion) annually
in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration
costs. It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.

Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.

Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67 percent drop-out/flunk-out rate because of thousands of illegal alien students speaking 41 different languages. At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from our gridlocked cities in Colorado.

Denver's four percent unemployment rate would vanish as our working
poor would gain jobs at a living wage.

In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State back to America, the rule of law, and English.

In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals, schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free experience.

If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home' --

If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home', the U.S. Economy would
return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal American citizens at a
living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because they
wouldn't be working off the books. That would result in an additional $401
Billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal amount for
local, state and city coffers.

No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English. No more confusion
in American schools that now must contend with over 100 languages that
degrade the educational system for America n kids. Our overcrowded schools
would lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in
ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.

We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of more than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country.

In cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the '18th Street Gang' would vanish from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for ID theft from Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!

Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded highways and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American deaths by illegal aliens!

America's economy is drained. Taxpayers are harmed. Employers get
rich. Over $80 billion annually wouldn't return to the aliens' home countries by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money untaxed, which further drains America's economy - which currently suffers an $8.7 trillion debt.

At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country, costing us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in California, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being bankrupt out of existence because illegalspay nothing via the EMTOLA Act.

Americans wouldn't suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases rampant in our country-brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.

Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and grid locking our cities It would also put the 'progressives' on the horns of a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11 percent of our greenhouse gases.

Over one million of Mexico's poorest citizens now live inside and along our border from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego, California in what the New York Times called, "colonies" or new neighborhoods. Trouble is, those living areas resemble Bombay and Calcutta where grinding poverty, filth, diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without sewage, clean water, streets, electricity, roads or any kind of sanitation. The New York Times reported them to be America's new "Third World" inside our own country. Within 20 years, at their current growth rate, they expect 20 million residents of those colonies. (I've seen them personally in Texas and Arizona; it's sickening beyond anything you can imagine.) By enforcing our laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico.

We should invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own countries and/or make a better life in Mexico. We already invite a million people into our country legally more than all other countries combined annually. We cannot and must not allow anarchy at our borders, more anarchy within our borders and growing lawlessness at every level in our nation. It's time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and our way of life.

Interesting Statistics. Here are 14 reasons illegal aliens should vacate America, and I hope they are forwarded over and over again until they
are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them:

1. $11 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare to illegal aliens. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 billion dollars are spent each year on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and secondary
school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

5. $17 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars PER DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 billion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year 2005, there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our southern border with as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin, and marijuana crossed into the U.S from the southern border. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, estimates that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion, or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/publicationsphp?b=deportation

13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex crimes are committed by illegal immigrants in the United States!"
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!!!

If this doesn't bother you, then just delete the message. Otherwise, forward this to everyone you know!

bigmack
01-30-2008, 12:21 AM
McCain? At this point, McCain?

This cannot be happening.

Go Mit?

Nevermind about the financials, ddog. If you bring that stuff up to some you're either a racist or not understanding that they're "just hard working people looking for a better life". Bring one, bring all.

JustRalph
01-30-2008, 01:31 AM
Please, no McCain.............. :bang:

Tom
01-30-2008, 09:45 AM
McCain - Clinton.

Cancer - Aids
Burnt to death - Stabbed to death
Car crash - plane crash


Decisions, decisions........:eek::(

skate
01-30-2008, 05:40 PM
Dick Armey says, no republican can defeat Hillary.

Skate says he's correct and he's looking forward to 'a fun filled four'.
ya gotta look at the facts, bringing four more tears...

ceejay
01-30-2008, 06:11 PM
Go Mit?Which Mit? The conservative? The MassGov? The "change" candidate? The guy frim MA, NH, MI or UT? He seems to change message weekly.

On my biggest issue-- health care-- he does support benefit mandates, guaranteed issue, community rating. http://www.health08.org/sidebyside_results.cfm?c=5&c=7&c=11&c=16 Not so conservative, eh?

bigmack
01-30-2008, 07:56 PM
Which Mit? The conservative? The MassGov? The "change" candidate? The guy frim MA, NH, MI or UT? He seems to change message weekly.

On my biggest issue-- health care-- he does support benefit mandates, guaranteed issue, community rating. http://www.health08.org/sidebyside_results.cfm?c=5&c=7&c=11&c=16 Not so conservative, eh?
I don't give a rats ass that he flip flops. At least he doesn't flop an agenda that's not even close to being Republican like McCain.

Romney favors providing access to affordable quality health insurance for every American and slow the rate of inflation in health care spending.

I like the vagueness of "provide access".

ddog
01-30-2008, 08:09 PM
Hillary can defeat Hillary.
There are at least 40% of voters that WILL NOT VOTE FOR HER.

That doesn't leave her much room for error.

Long time still to NOV.

ceejay
01-30-2008, 08:19 PM
At least he doesn't flop an agenda that's not even close to being Republican like McCain.


And you know that because........

bigmack
01-30-2008, 08:44 PM
And you know that because........
Call it a hunch. Although I'm thinking of having it fixed.

http://gammillustrations.bizland.com/monsterkid4/4_images/mmpHunch.jpg

Seriously though, McCain is unacceptable.

Republicans are supposed to eschew demagogic aspersions concerning complicated economic matters. But applause greets faux "straight talk" that brands as "bad" the industry responsible for the facts that polio is no longer a scourge, that childhood leukemia is no longer a death sentence, that depression and other mental illnesses are treatable diseases, that the rate of heart attacks and heart failures has been cut more than in half in 50 years.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080120/OPINION03/801200308

ceejay
01-30-2008, 08:53 PM
I do believe that Mitt signed a healthcare law in MA with an individual mandate.

bigmack
01-30-2008, 08:58 PM
I do believe that Mitt signed a healthcare law in MA with an individual mandate.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/94933

Jim Mongan, CEO of Partners HealthCare and an influential voice when legislators were drafting the law, sees the former Massachusetts governor as an ideological innovator. The plan centers on an individual mandate, putting the onus on residents—not employers or the state—to insure themselves. "He kind of turned the debate on its head," Mongan says. "He took a conservative approach to a liberal end. This was Romney's innovation: his ability to rethink that debate. It was creative, two-step thinking."

The landmark plan, which went into effect in July 2007, requires that all Massachusetts residents obtain insurance from public or private agents. Low-income residents, defined as those who earn 300 percent of the poverty level or less, qualify for partial or total subsidies. People who earn more pay varying amounts based on their age, occupation, and location.

ceejay
01-30-2008, 09:13 PM
Hey, I favor the approach, but it's not part of Mitt's national plan. Again, which Mitt is running for president?

bigmack
01-30-2008, 10:07 PM
Hey, I favor the approach, but it's not part of Mitt's national plan. Again, which Mitt is running for president?
Any one of them providing it keeps this dish far from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/kfc-hillary-clinton-special.jpg

I'd rather Mitt flip flop and take my chances on his policies than know the policies of McCain & feel unwelcome doom in my life.

Tom
01-30-2008, 10:20 PM
Juan McCain is the enemy of America.
He will do far more damage than Bin Laden has.

PaceAdvantage
01-31-2008, 03:10 AM
Dick Armey says, no republican can defeat Hillary.They said the same thing about John "FatHead" Kerry. He was supposedly unbeatable too....oh well....

And by the way, the last Army I will ever join will be the Dick Army....I can tell you that for a fact!

Now, the Bush Army, I'm all for....:lol:

bigmack
01-31-2008, 03:20 AM
And by the way, the last Army I will ever join will be the Dick Army....I can tell you that for a fact!

Now, the Bush Army, I'm all for....:lol:
Bravo, Miguel. Lenny B would be envious.

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3228/lennygt1.jpg