Straight from the horse's mouth

[46zilzal]

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml

From the interviewer of Hussein while in custody and the WMD were a bluff from day one. Hardly a surprise.

[skate]

i heard the opposite, just wait;)

[delayjf]

the WMD were a bluff from day one
And it worked...which just proves our Intel sucks and Bush didn't lie.

[riskman]

Let’s assume that Iraq really will become a flouring Western-style democracy following years of even greater sacrifice, as the President has call for. Remolding Iraq was never the reason that the majority of Americans initially backed the President for invading Iraq. The reasons the average person supported going to war back in 2002 and early 2003 were because they believed Iraq posed a physical threat to the United States in the form of WMD’s and because they wanted to see Saddam Hussein removed from leadership. Of course the first concern was an illusion and the second objective was accomplished less than a month after the bombs started falling. They never signed on to this idea that the President has been selling -- a nation building exercise in the Middle East.

What price are we willing to pay to quell the "sectarian violence"? What price are we willing to pay to make democracy safe for Shiite fundamentalists in Iraq? And in what sense is any of this "protecting our freedoms"? Is America more secure after the invasion of Iraq? Also keep in mind there was no al-Qaeda presence in Iraq until the previous thuggish regime was deposed and that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

Perhaps history really will vindicate President Bush "win at any cost" policy. But recent history isn’t on their side and reasons to be optimistic in the future are lacking. We need to collectively ask ourselves how much we are willing to give to accomplish the grand mission of remaking Iraq. Most of us have said enough is enough. The President is calling for more and more.

It would be sad if time judges Bush's escalations and the entire exercise as one of the worst decisions in the history of American foreign policy. I hope not for our sake.

[46zilzal]

It would be sad if time judges Bush's escalations and the entire exercise as one of the worst decisions in the history of American foreign policy. I hope not for our sake.
In that regard he is currently in first place by a country mile...

[skate]

risky;

For what sense you ask.

Global...the world over...in that sense.

But you have to think about "Global".

We (USA) are the police.

No more hiding.
Hiding is over for now.

[Dave Schwartz]

Remolding Iraq was never the reason that the majority of Americans initially backed the President for invading Iraq. The reasons the average person supported going to war back in 2002 and early 2003 were because they believed Iraq posed a physical threat to the United States in the form of WMD’s and because they wanted to see Saddam Hussein removed from leadership.

Very well-said and spot-on.

[skate]

Remolding Iraq was never the reason that the majority of Americans initially backed the President for invading Iraq.

It would be sad if time judges Bush's escalations and the entire exercise as one of the worst decisions in the history of American foreign policy. I hope not for our sake.

It sure sounds as if you are saying, the public gave the OK for Invading (which went really Good), but they wouldn't give the OK for "Stability in Iraq".

UncleGeorge is saying Stability.

[Snag]

And it worked...which just proves our Intel sucks and Bush didn't lie.

Becareful. 46 won't like that. He hates President Bush so much that any facts that support a correct analysis only get in the way.

[wonatthewire1]

I backed Bush & US invading Eyerack because they were supposed to have those drone planes that would kill all of us - at least that is what Colin Powell was a sayin'

And to think those were only "pictures of drone planes" not actually Eyerack drone planes! They should hire that Sign and Drive, no wait, Sign and then Drive dude from VW - at least he corrects his mistakes before ppl get killed


Let’s assume that Iraq really will become a flouring Western-style democracy following years of even greater sacrifice, as the President has call for. Remolding Iraq was never the reason that the majority of Americans initially backed the President for invading Iraq. The reasons the average person supported going to war back in 2002 and early 2003 were because they believed Iraq posed a physical threat to the United States in the form of WMD’s and because they wanted to see Saddam Hussein removed from leadership. Of course the first concern was an illusion and the second objective was accomplished less than a month after the bombs started falling. They never signed on to this idea that the President has been selling -- a nation building exercise in the Middle East.

What price are we willing to pay to quell the "sectarian violence"? What price are we willing to pay to make democracy safe for Shiite fundamentalists in Iraq? And in what sense is any of this "protecting our freedoms"? Is America more secure after the invasion of Iraq? Also keep in mind there was no al-Qaeda presence in Iraq until the previous thuggish regime was deposed and that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

Perhaps history really will vindicate President Bush "win at any cost" policy. But recent history isn’t on their side and reasons to be optimistic in the future are lacking. We need to collectively ask ourselves how much we are willing to give to accomplish the grand mission of remaking Iraq. Most of us have said enough is enough. The President is calling for more and more.

It would be sad if time judges Bush's escalations and the entire exercise as one of the worst decisions in the history of American foreign policy. I hope not for our sake.

[JustRalph]

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml

From the interviewer of Hussein while in custody and the WMD were a bluff from day one. Hardly a surprise.

I have been waiting for you or one of your minions to post about this. You realize that this "bluff" fooled the intelligence services of 8 different countries? In all reality, this should actually vindicate Bush and indict the intelligence services that we raped and pillaged during the Clinton years. George Tenet should be in jail and Bob Torreccili should be his cellmate.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9501E0D91730F934A2575AC0A9649C8B 63


http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/9/17/162056.shtml

http://hnn.us/articles/380.html

[46zilzal]

Interesting observations on the war from noted author John Grisham: “The war is an immoral abomination that we’ll pay for for decades to come,” Grisham said near the end of a 40-minute telephone interview with The Des Moines Register. "We’re paying for it now at the rate of 100 kids a month while Bush plays politics with it.”

http://www.johngrishamonline.com/grisham-slams-war

[JustRalph]

Interesting observations on the war from noted author John Grisham: “The war is an immoral abomination that we’ll pay for for decades to come,” Grisham said near the end of a 40-minute telephone interview with The Des Moines Register. "We’re paying for it now at the rate of 100 kids a month while Bush plays politics with it.”

http://www.johngrishamonline.com/grisham-slams-war

you forgot to say "noted liberal activist" he gives tons of money to liberal causes

[46zilzal]

you forgot to say "noted liberal activist" he gives tons of money to liberal causes
That is the label put on ANYONE who has a negative opinion on this debacle.

The opinion is exclusive to the evaluation principles of an individual. period.

[kenwoodallpromos]

08-13-2006, 03:19 AM #4
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Iran is playing poker just like Hussein was; He's also hoping no one calls his bluff.

[Snag]

The opinion is exclusive to the evaluation principles of an individual. period.

You may want to becareful with that comment. Some here would apply that to you and you posts. It does work both ways regardless.