If there was no war in Iraq

[hcap]

A questionable war of choice. Now estimated to cost over 2 trillion.
Here's what we could have done.

http://www.thestar.com/columnists/article/295870

Consider that, according to sources like Columbia's Jeffrey Sachs, the Worldwatch Institute, and the United Nations, with that same money the world could:

Eliminate extreme poverty around the world (cost $135 billion in the first year, rising to $195 billion by 2015.)

Achieve universal literacy (cost $5 billion a year.)

Immunize every child in the world against deadly diseases (cost $1.3 billion a year.)

Ensure developing countries have enough money to fight the AIDS epidemic (cost $15 billion per year.)

In other words, for a cost of $156.3 billion this year alone – less than a tenth of the total Iraq war budget – we could lift entire countries out of poverty, teach every person in the world to read and write, significantly reduce child mortality, while making huge leaps in the battle against AIDS, saving millions of lives.

Then the remaining money could be put toward the $40 billion to $60 billion annually that the World Bank says is needed to achieve the Millennium Development Goals, established by world leaders in 2000, to tackle everything from gender inequality to environmental sustainability.



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[rastajenk]

You can't accomplish any of those things with money alone. It takes regime change in dozens of countries. Do you have the stomach for regime change in dozens of countries? Would the rest of the world still respect us in the morning if we began deposing corrupt leaders, creating vacuums, and moving on? If Iraq is a "questionable war of choice," what would be the rationale for multiple wars of choice? Anything less is just throwing money away.

[Tom]

So how come Clinton did none of these things?
He left a huge surplus....what was his excuse for failure to accomplish these lofty goals? There was no war then.


Grow up, hcap.

[JustRalph]

They could have cut that article short by saying


"Give all of our money to foreign countries and those who don't deserve it"

[46zilzal]

They could have cut that article short by saying


"Give all of our money to foreign countries and those who don't deserve it"
Isn't that what the rutabga is doing with the debacle in Iraq? Well. other than all that public money that is going into the coffers of his connected buddies.

Being an individual is admirable, BUT each of us is part of a larger thing called civilized humanity. Education and health makes for better citizens.

[delayjf]

Isn't that what the rutabga is doing with the debacle in Iraq?
I thought the money was going to Haliburton, ExxonMobil, and Chevron.!

LBJ,
That's a nice thought but do you really think that's what the Gov would have spent the money on?

[Tom]

Gottcha, Part Duex! :ThmbUp::ThmbUp::ThmbUp::lol:

[Gittup]

Gottcha, Part Duex! :ThmbUp::ThmbUp::ThmbUp::lol:
Not coherent Tommy. Put it down before you further embarrass yourself.

[Marshall Bennett]

If liberals had it their way we would liquidate the military entirely and have a shitload of surplus money around !!!

[skate]

Hiccups;

you sure do have trouble with your math and economics.

i give you a spank, you run off into the swamp (sorry Gary) and here you are again:faint: as confused as ever, no ?

[PaceAdvantage]

Not coherent Tommy. Put it down before you further embarrass yourself.Now you're starting to get annoying.

[JustRalph]

If liberals had it their way we would liquidate the military entirely and have a shitload of surplus money around !!!

yep, and we would have a shit load of problems too............

[King Ritchie]

A questionable war of choice. Now estimated to cost over 2 trillion.
Here's what we could have done.

http://www.thestar.com/columnists/article/295870

Consider that, according to sources like Columbia's Jeffrey Sachs, the Worldwatch Institute, and the United Nations, with that same money the world could:

Eliminate extreme poverty around the world (cost $135 billion in the first year, rising to $195 billion by 2015.)

Achieve universal literacy (cost $5 billion a year.)

Immunize every child in the world against deadly diseases (cost $1.3 billion a year.)

Ensure developing countries have enough money to fight the AIDS epidemic (cost $15 billion per year.)

In other words, for a cost of $156.3 billion this year alone – less than a tenth of the total Iraq war budget – we could lift entire countries out of poverty, teach every person in the world to read and write, significantly reduce child mortality, while making huge leaps in the battle against AIDS, saving millions of lives.

Then the remaining money could be put toward the $40 billion to $60 billion annually that the World Bank says is needed to achieve the Millennium Development Goals, established by world leaders in 2000, to tackle everything from gender inequality to environmental sustainability.



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Libs like bozo hcap want to turn our country over to Castro...............

[hcap]

King, no need for the Crawford Village idiot to rush home.
Get your oversize butt down there.
You can fill the vacancy quite nicely.

Castro! :lol:
No I want to turn the country over to more annoying "Kings" like you.

BTW, where exactly is your kingdom?

Do you know this annoying fellow King?
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/09/ceo_socnet/image/burger-king.jpg

[hcap]

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/01/0081346

A National Intelligence Estimate on the United States
Chalmers A. Johnson

Military Keynesianism: The imperial project is expensive. The flow of the nation's wealth—from taxpayers and (increasingly) foreign lenders through the government to military contractors and (decreasingly) back to the taxpayers—has created a form of “military Keynesianism,” in which the domestic economy requires sustained military ambition in order to avoid recession or collapse.

... The ongoing U.S. militarization of its foreign affairs has spiked precipitously in recent years, with increasingly expensive commitments in Afghanistan and Iraq. These commitments grew from many specific political factors, including the ideological predilections of the current regime, the growing need for material access to the oil-rich regions of the Middle East, and a long-term bipartisan emphasis on hegemony as a basis for national security. The domestic economic basis for these commitments, however, is consistently overlooked. Indeed, America's hegemonic policy is in many ways most accurately understood as the inevitable result of its decades-long policy of military Keynesianism.

[hcap]

2 trillion divided by the entire 300 million US population, gives over 6 grand to every man, woman and child.

Anyone say economic stimulus?

[Marshall Bennett]

2 trillion divided by the entire 300 million US population, gives over 6 grand to every man, woman and child.

Anyone say economic stimulus?
Why stop there ? Why not take all the money spent on every war we ever engaged in and divide that by 300 million , in which case , who needs the military . Distribute that cost as well among the 300 million . Everyone could retire and live happily ever after .... only in a liberal's dreamworld !!

[Tom]

Don't forget the trillions wasted on the War on Povetry.
How's that coming, hcap? We winnig it yet?
What's our timeline for withdrawl.

As you lefties like to say about Iraw, they will never stop attacks as long as the occupying force is still there, I say they will never get jobs as long as the checks keep coming in.

If you are going to whine about money, include the trillions wasted by dems over the years.

[ddog]

don't get it.

they will never stop as long as they are there.

they = shunni-shite-kurds-+some crazy-hidden iman fanactics to stir the pot every so often.

it is what it is with or without us paying them to be with us.

they never killed all the Christians off did they?
Odds were more in favor of that happening in the day than all the islamist-nutjobs suddenly turning into a rep or dem.

wade on in , it's got to get shallower some century or other.

[King Ritchie]

If there was no war in Iraq then HCAP probably wouldn't be here bitching about everything - what a miserable life this person HCAP must have.