O'Reilly vomits out slander yet again

[46zilzal]

http://foxattacks.com/vets

http://foxattacks.com/blog/24004-bill-o-reilly-attacks-obama-staffer?play=1

[Snag]

46, do you not read the other posts? You are a day late, a dollar short, and way off base. Give it up.

[JustRalph]

46, do you not read the other posts? You are a day late, a dollar short, and way off base. Give it up.


he got his email from the DNC/Dem Underground...........late..........

[46zilzal]

he got his email from the DNC/Dem Underground...........late..........
Having never gone there, or even heard of it until YOU hoisted it upon many of us, that would be patently impossible.

[46zilzal]

Balanced???

http://foxattacks.com/blog/13034-fox-s-balanced-analysis-of-the-petraeus-hearings?play=1

[46zilzal]

These folks are disagreement with his conclusions as well.
http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=406

http://www.endhomelessness.org/content/article/detail/1839

[DeanT]

What kind of crazy website is that?

The first commenter asks if Fox News is popular (his gut says "no"), and the second guy wants right wing radio banned.

I don't much agree with the New York Times much but I sure as hell don't want the paper banned. And you have to have the IQ of a Peruvian tree frog to not know Fox is popular. Those guys really need to get out more.

[PaceAdvantage]

It's funny how all of a sudden everyone is ganging up on Billy boy....it's like they all get their marching orders at one time from Soros, and off they go into the wild blue yonder....

And to think, some of their more recent postings warn against "wild-eyed" hardcore Christian groups.....:lol:

As if their own actions and beliefs don't qualify them for similar descriptors.

Can you smell the hypocrisy? I can....

[DJofSD]

What happened to tolerance and diversity? Or is it like what Carroll had the Red Queen saying -- it means what the liberals mean, no more, no less?

[Tom]

Can you smell the hypocrisy? I can....

I thought it was perch! :lol:

[Lefty]

zilly, instead of depending on your endless supply of leftwing links to keep you informed you should actually watch something. O'Reilly never said there weren't many homeless Vets. He called Edwards stupid or lying about the number of homeless Vets out there being out there because of the economy! O'Reilly said the bulk of homeless Vets, like most homeless people were out there homeless because of mental problems or addiction to drugs or alcohol. People who run veterans facilities agree. So get it right. Edwards blaming the economy, and O'Reilly called him on it. O'Reilly would be delighted to debate Edwards on the subject but guess Soros won't let Edwards do that.

[ddog]

zilly, instead of depending on your endless supply of leftwing links to keep you informed you should actually watch something. O'Reilly never said there weren't many homeless Vets. He called Edwards stupid or lying about the number of homeless Vets out there being out there because of the economy! O'Reilly said the bulk of homeless Vets, like most homeless people were out there homeless because of mental problems or addiction to drugs or alcohol. People who run veterans facilities agree. So get it right. Edwards blaming the economy, and O'Reilly called him on it. O'Reilly would be delighted to debate Edwards on the subject but guess Soros won't let Edwards do that.

All I can say, is I don't know the exact numbers , I think the 200,000 comes from the VA and possibly something affliated with the DOD.

In any case, if the numbers are close to that , then I don't see why it matters as to the "why" of it?
I guess, it's easier to throw mud back and forth than get out and do something about it at any level?

I think the only reason those numbers exist is that WE don't walk the talk and have not for many years, since at least 'Nam.

[cj]

The more the libs post about Bill, the more I'm convinced he must be a great guy.

[Heckquebus]

zilly, instead of depending on your endless supply of leftwing links to keep you informed you should actually watch something.

I couldn't agree with you more. We'd be better informed about our own politics if American Coroporations allowed media from other countries to be air on cable. Perspective is something we don't have as Americans.

[Lefty]

ddog, once again, the argument is not about the numbers the argument is about the CAUSE. Edwards says it's because of economics and O'reilly and others, say that's not the cause.

[Gittup]

ddog, once again, the argument is not about the numbers the argument is about the CAUSE. Edwards says it's because of economics and O'reilly and others, say that's not the cause.
Lefty, my friend, I'm not talking about O'Reilly or Edwards now. I'm talking about veterans. In my humble view, there needs to be much better care taken on their behalf. There should be expanded programs to assist those with PSSD and other consequences of service. The fact that there are 195,000+ vets in need of care from the country they bravely served stares in stark contrast to all the spin that either O' Reilly or Edwards generates.

[bigmack]

Lefty, my friend, I'm not talking about O'Reilly or Edwards now. I'm talking about veterans. In my humble view, there needs to be much better care taken on their behalf. There should be expanded programs to assist those with PSSD and other consequences of service. The fact that there are 195,000+ vets in need of care from the country they bravely served stares in stark contrast to all the spin that either O' Reilly or Edwards generates.
Even with their esteemed valor, how can the government go and help them live their lives?

[Gittup]

Even with their esteemed valor, how can the government go and help them live their lives?
The list might include outreach counseling, job training, reorientation programs, and other services. (I'm unable to come up with some more at this moment, but i'm sure that others that share concern for vets will offer their ideas).

[Lefty]

We should do all we can for our vets, but aady at one of the organizations that try to help says if they won't come in(and many won't)they can't help them.
BUT, my friend, this thread was about sillyzilly saying O'Reilly denigrated the vets and disputed the number of them as homeless when he DID NOT. His beef with Edwards was about the causation. Edwards is running around lying and O'Reilly called him on it. THAT'S what this thread is about.

[Heckquebus]

http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/national/2008/01/19/Homeless.on.the.Homefront/

Good article that puts things into perspective. If a person serves our country, we should serve our Vets forever and for everything, it's the very least we can do.

[Lefty]

heck, once again, NOBODY is disputing the Vets should be helped. This thread was started by zilly and he misstated the facts. Let's try and stay on topic.

[Heckquebus]

heck, once again, NOBODY is disputing the Vets should be helped. This thread was started by zilly and he misstated the facts. Let's try and stay on topic.

Ok Lefty, let me say we can put our money anywhere, where we choose to put it is a nation's decision. If only we can bypass these electronic voting machines and allow the truth to be calculated we'd find our nation wants better schools, health care, roads, bridges, etc.

Do we really believe we voted for Bush?

Did we ever want to fund war activities?

If the money that is currently being spent on this war in Iraq was instead spent on schools, roads, bridges, alternate energy sources, etc. then the Corporations (owned are heavily invested by the politicans in the white house) benefiting from our hard earned tax dollars wouldn't make money. See what I mean now.
O'Reilly is ignorant and he is paid well be to ignorant. Fox news media is the equilivant of tabloid news.

Edwards on the other hand backs up his statements with facts.

What it boils down to is this...."What is the average IQ of Americans?" You could say the crap that is aired on CBS (CSI for example) is clearly written for a grade 8 intellect.

Are we as smart as we think we are? Not with O'Reilly flapping his mouth selling out for a fat paycheck.

[Lefty]

heck, this latest rant by you is nowhere near the topic. Start a new thread if you wish to change topics.
And btw, it's all been said and answered before. You new guys should get up to speed before you start the s.o.s.

[Tom]

Lefty, new guy spreads like diarrhea, huh?
Little BS in every thread. Can't stay on topic.

Sound like another stooge sent by the DNC or bowelmovement.org. :lol:
17 post in one afternoon, all nothing to do with horse racing....just anti-Bush stuff.

Give him til Thurdsay.

This one was obvious from post 1. :rolleyes:

[Gittup]

25,238 > 17

[DJofSD]

25,238 > 17

Obviously, you passed algebra. Keep up the good work.

[Gittup]

Obviously, you passed algebra. Keep up the good work.
I taught it.

[King Ritchie]

zilly needs to pack up and move to a country that supports his views....... like Cuba, Russia, Venz., etc.

[PaceAdvantage]

Perspective is something we don't have as Americans.If you're referring to the far left, then I couldn't agree more. They lost all perspective a long, long time ago.

[46zilzal]

zilly needs to pack up and move to a country that supports his views....... like Cuba, Russia, Venz., etc.
No, JUST like yourself, The Dixie Chicks, Martin Sheen, even old Bill O'Reilly, we all speak our points of view, LIKE 'em on NOT!

I have specifically gone to listen to real nut jobs (George Lincoln Rockwell before the leader of the American Nazi Party was assassinated......"Turn On, Tune in Drop Out" Dr. Timothy Leary, Jerry Rubin after he returned from the Chicago police riots and others) just to see how strangely daft they were and marveled that they spoke their piece freely and without interruption. Without this negative perspective to compare to, one has no balance in their evaluations.

The Students of Democratic Society were the real whack jobs when I was in school advocating the violent overthrow of the government. We would laugh, shake out heads and walk on, JUST THE SAME WAY YOU SHOULD if you find someone's rightful point of view NOT in agreement with yours.

Or as my late father was prone to saying: "Don't like it? Come here and let me punch your TS (tough shit) card!"

[JustRalph]

I couldn't agree with you more. We'd be better informed about our own politics if American Coroporations allowed media from other countries to be air on cable. Perspective is something we don't have as Americans.

American corporations don't stop other countries media from being aired in the U.S. What the hell are you talking about? You can still buy a dish that gets many more sat channels than just what is available on Dish or Direct TV. Get your credit card out and go for it.

I damn sure guarantee you that if Aljazeera could be a profitable channel..........and people were really interested in it...........you would see it on Dishnet and the cable companies............there is no market for it..........end of story.

What makes you think the perspective of "other countries" is any more accurate than what you see here? There are very few "free media" countries out there..........you would only be getting a version of things that are in line with the countries current propaganda line........nothing more.........

[JustRalph]

http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/national/2008/01/19/Homeless.on.the.Homefront/

Good article that puts things into perspective. If a person serves our country, we should serve our Vets forever and for everything, it's the very least we can do.

So you think they should be respected and they have a valuable opine then?

[Heckquebus]

American corporations don't stop other countries media from being aired in the U.S. What the hell are you talking about? You can still buy a dish that gets many more sat channels than just what is available on Dish or Direct TV. Get your credit card out and go for it.

........Well golly, imagine that :D !

I damn sure guarantee you that if Aljazeera could be a profitable channel..........and people were really interested in it...........you would see it on Dishnet and the cable companies............there is no market for it..........end of story.

What makes you think the perspective of "other countries" is any more accurate than what you see here? There are very few "free media" countries out there..........you would only be getting a version of things that are in line with the countries current propaganda line........nothing more.........

Ok, I see your point, but shouldn't we care what the world thinks of us, propaganda or not?

[JustRalph]

Ok, I see your point, but shouldn't we care what the world thinks of us, propaganda or not?

nope........not in my opine. That ship has sailed. Our actions speak louder than words. They can scream about Iraq etc.......but they all still take our money. In fact I am for stopping all foreign aid for two years. Just stop it all for two years and let them feel it.

I wish everybody felt the way they did after WWII or the Berlin Airlift, but time has erased that stuff from their minds.

Btw, in about another year the Country of Germany is going to feel it anyway. They bad mouthed us for years and Rumsfield and Bush decided to pull most of our Troops out of Germany. There is going to be a serious draw down over the next few years. Their economy is going to feel it. I am all for moving those Troops to the mideast.

[Lefty]

and let's not forget the oil deals that France and others had going with Iraq. No wonder they weren't "with" us. Who the hell careswhatsocialists think? We are Capitalists! We are there with money and aid whenever there's a disaster. We are the good guys. I am unanimous in that.

[Heckquebus]

If you're referring to the far left, then I couldn't agree more. They lost all perspective a long, long time ago.

Yes Pace, the far left and far right do not have perspective. Since I am neither, I can rise above ingorance and look at the facts. My opinions are formed from earnest study. I have no agenda, only truth from investigavtive research and dilengent studies in political science, economics, psychology and accounting.

I enjoyed my sunday on your thread. Ya'll have a good one. I'm going to fly off in my space ship now, I've had it with this planet for one day.

[Heckquebus]

So you think they should be respected and they have a valuable opine then?

All opinions are valuable if they can be argued with fact yes, Vets included.

[Gittup]

American corporations don't stop other countries media from being aired in the U.S. What the hell are you talking about? You can still buy a dish that gets many more sat channels than just what is available on Dish or Direct TV. Get your credit card out and go for it.

I damn sure guarantee you that if Aljazeera could be a profitable channel..........and people were really interested in it...........you would see it on Dishnet and the cable companies............there is no market for it..........end of story.

What makes you think the perspective of "other countries" is any more accurate than what you see here? There are very few "free media" countries out there..........you would only be getting a version of things that are in line with the countries current propaganda line........nothing more.........
Ralphie,
Most people get their information from "Main Stream Media" sources. These are controlled by six or eight corporations.

[JustRalph]

Ralphie,
Most people get their information from "Main Stream Media" sources. These are controlled by six or eight corporations.

and if they are misinformed.........it is their own fault and they should be banned from voting............but that would never happen

[bigmack]

Most people get their information from "Main Stream Media" sources. These are controlled by six or eight corporations.
While anyone worth their salt is unwilling to buy, hook line & sinker, stories without checks & balances, the bad news in your quest for "alternative" news is that they're oftentimes confuted with the slightest of ease.

Circa '68, '88, or pick a year, you might be a popular guy on a campus somewhere citing an article or study seen by few that refutes the news of the day and those eager to believe would scamper off and "spread the word".

Darn shame you actually have to footnote your references now as the internet allows us all to read YOUR sources, and more often than not, have a good snicker. You know, like commondreams.org and "get O'Reilly to apologize" movements? :lol:

You, and your brethren, are entertaining in your assumption that the populace is under-informed with the general news, while you pursue "the real truth" in stories penned by less than reliable entities; a.k.a. Wackjobs.

The paradox is that you buy what you want.

Do you ever have a day or moment and find yourself pursuing stories/news that fit your liking? I would hope so. Without admitting that, you're being exponentially mendacious.

To be honest, there's no need to search for news or a movement or the gripe/whine. Live your life, stay abreast and don't buy rotten fruit.

[46zilzal]

Yes Pace, the far left and far right do not have perspective. Since I am neither, I can rise above ingorance and look at the facts. My opinions are formed from earnest study. I have no agenda, only truth from investigative research and dilengent studies in political science, economics, psychology and accounting.


Ah but the clowns here follow old Georgie with Yur with me or aggin' me, so automatically you are put in the "lefty" camp.

[Lefty]

Ah but the clowns here follow old Georgie with Yur with me or aggin' me, so automatically you are put in the "lefty" camp.
Constructive crioticism and polite discourse always welcome but you have never participated in that. You just fire leftwing links at us and call names. I have invited you many times to have a "back and forth" but you always demean and show a link. zilly, you have never articulated any view without vitriol and far the newbies here, i'll let them know you have many times stated "you take no sides inthe war against terrorism" but always call the Pres vile names and not once have you sided with America and often have sided with the terrorists.
You posted a lie about O'Reilly that you got elsewhere and when called on it have never opted to write about it in your own words.

[Tom]

46, it is a small person who crticises bsed on heresay, and this is your MO.
Yoou do not listen to O'Reily, therefore, you are not capable of making fair acustations, or in other words, fraud.

When I call out Air-Head America hosts for drivel, it is only when I have actually listened to the program. And I do listen to many of the regularly, so that I know what they area saying and can then commnet inteligently on them.

Honesty, integrity, fairness...all term taht seem foreight to you.
Fact is, what you post daily is pretty much real vomit - chewed up waste with no nutritional value, just more damn crap from your cold black heart, not your brain. You are a parrot at best. Waaaaaaaaalllllkkkkkkkkk!!!!!

[Heckquebus]

Ralphie,
Most people get their information from "Main Stream Media" sources. These are controlled by six or eight corporations.

Yes unfortunately, that's the fact.

[DJofSD]

Yes unfortunately, that's the fact.

What's the fact, that most people get their information from the main stream media or that the media is owned by 6 or 8 companies, or both?

[Heckquebus]

What's the fact, that most people get their information from the main stream media or that the media is owned by 6 or 8 companies, or both?

Both are true. Most people don't have the time or their hobbies and interest are invested elsewhere.

[DJofSD]

Both are true.

And do you assume that people on this board pay attention to the main stream media, and, that is the source of their information political and otherwise?

[Gittup]

And do you assume that people on this board pay attention to the main stream media, and, that is the source of their information political and otherwise?
By their own admission, many here have stated that their source is Fox News, owned by Rupert Murdoch.

[PaceAdvantage]

By their own admission, many here have stated that their source is Fox News, owned by Rupert Murdoch.Who here has stated such nonsense?

Who here has stated "My source for news is Fox News....and that's it...."

Nobody has stated such nonsense.

[Greyfox]

Tommyboy,
I think Burls got it correct concerning your problem. It seems that your substance abuse is really showing up today.
In that you are having a problem spelling the word "you", or "accusations", or "are", or "comment", or "intelligently", or "that", or "foreign", I suggest you get help immediately, and perhaps check into a rehab very soon. I only say this because I care, Tommy. Others on this forum have also attempted "intervention" on your behalf. Please get help!

I strongly object to the above post.

There are several types of intelligence.
Spelling ability is not correlated with many of them.
Typo's and spelling errors should not lead anyone to conclude anything about one's intelligence or mental state.
I find Tom's posts quite entertaining, witty, and very bright.
There is absolutely no evidence for what you are suggesting and the post seems to have very hurtful intent rather than the pretense of help.

[Tom]

Gittyup-
Can't address the topic so you throw BS out once again, huh?
The post did not even concern you - it was to 46, but you saw it as an invitation to demonstrate your ignorance and immaturity?

Typical - you have delusions and your grasp on reality has been tenuous.
You asinine posts define your character.

You remind me a stinking drunk driving by a crowd of people and mooning them, thinking how clever you are.

Truth is, you have been a zero since you got here and continue to fail to post anything of any inteligence.

It is amusing to read your daily rants - wondering which one of the past - aholes you used to be here as. Like doing the crossward puzzle - trying to remember other stupid posts from yesteryear! Hi Ho Silver....AWAY!:lol:\

Thanks, Greyfox - civility is not his strong point - 3rd grade behavior is.
He picked up the spelling thing from 46 - not bright enough to come up with it himself!:lol: 46 ended up "spelling" worse than me. But he just ignores it, thinking I "gest!":lol:

[Tom]

By their own admission, many here have stated that their source is Fox News, owned by Rupert Murdoch.
Name one.

[DJofSD]

By their own admission, many here have stated that their source is Fox News, owned by Rupert Murdoch.

Well, I have never watched Fox news let alone Bill O'Reilly.

I get more information, second hand, about Fox/BOR from the posts on this board than I do first hand by watching the channel itself. And what I get from those posts is all hear-say.

I find it amusing and disappointing people can't tell the difference between an ad hominim attack and a reasonable question of the data, the source and interpretation of the data.

[Gittup]

Who here has stated such nonsense?

Who here has stated "My source for news is Fox News....and that's it...."

Nobody has stated such nonsense.
My friend Lefty's words:
"You resident "smartys" are against Fox, who really is fair and balanced and anyone that watches knows that, then you give us link after link of leftwing unadulterated crap. Zilly, is so smart, he can't put anything of substance into his own words and burls has found hcaps cache of leftwing cartoonists. Your leftwing profs would be proud. and zilly, it's "aired" not whatever you wrote. I realize it's a typo but we can't let you get away with it cause you criticize everyone for the sasme thing, including the pres, so we now put it bk at you, everytime.
You guys need to get some new stuff. It's old and boring fellas. We expect more from anyone that declares himself smarter than the rest of us. So tell us how your leftwing candidate is going to make everything all better?"

[46zilzal]

Lefty rarely refers to anything else than his beloved Fair and Balanced baloney.

[delayjf]

That's because next to the other networks it is fair and balanced. It does offer both views. You just can't stand to have your particular view questioned. Curious would you consider Keith Oberman "fair and balanced", O'Reilly doesn't even come close to this moron.

[Gittup]

That's because next to the other networks it is fair and balanced. It does offer both views. You just can't stand to have your particular view questioned. Curious would you consider Keith Oberman "fair and balanced", O'Reilly doesn't even come close to this moron.
PA and Tommy,
Here's another.

[46zilzal]

That's because next to the other networks it is fair and balanced. It does offer both views. You just can't stand to have your particular view questioned. Curious would you consider Keith Oberman "fair and balanced", O'Reilly doesn't even come close to this moron.
Did I ever even use the words Fair and Balanced in regard to ANY newscast? I would check your references when you start ASSUMING again.

I favor Oberman's views on the "brain stem who roars" rutabaga.

[Gittup]

Gittyup-
Can't address the topic so you throw BS out once again, huh?
The post did not even concern you - it was to 46, but you saw it as an invitation to demonstrate your ignorance and immaturity?

Typical - you have delusions and your grasp on reality has been tenuous.
You asinine posts define your character.

You remind me a stinking drunk driving by a crowd of people and mooning them, thinking how clever you are.

Truth is, you have been a zero since you got here and continue to fail to post anything of any inteligence.

It is amusing to read your daily rants - wondering which one of the past - aholes you used to be here as. Like doing the crossward puzzle - trying to remember other stupid posts from yesteryear! Hi Ho Silver....AWAY!:lol:\

Thanks, Greyfox - civility is not his strong point - 3rd grade behavior is.
He picked up the spelling thing from 46 - not bright enough to come up with it himself!:lol: 46 ended up "spelling" worse than me. But he just ignores it, thinking I "gest!":lol:
Tommyboy and Greyfox,
Here are Tommy's own words:
"I think he (Gittup) smoked Heckquebus's avatar - it's missing! :lol:"
Though I did nothing of the sort, and since this whit (well, I got it half right) had absolutely nothing to contribute to the discussion, nor anything of "intelligence" (note spelling, Tommy), it seems to me that if Tommy can cook it up, even in his drug induced state, then dish it out, he should be more than willing to "EAT IT"!!!
Bon appetit!

[Gittup]

Who here has stated such nonsense?

Who here has stated "My source for news is Fox News....and that's it...."

Nobody has stated such nonsense.
Another one, Gary G:
"And they complain about Fox News? :lol: :lol: :lol:"

[Tom]

Lefty rarely refers to anything else than his beloved Fair and Balanced baloney.

At least he watches it - you condem it out of ignorance.

[Tom]

Tommyboy and Greyfox,
Here are Tommy's own words:
"I think he (Gittup) smoked Heckquebus's avatar - it's missing! :lol:"
Though I did nothing of the sort, and since this whit (well, I got it half right) had absolutely nothing to contribute to the discussion, nor anything of "intelligence" (note spelling, Tommy), it seems to me that if Tommy can cook it up, even in his drug induced state, then dish it out, he should be more than willing to "EAT IT"!!!
Bon appetit!

If you could read, you would have seen that PA asked what your were smoking in the post right before that. Do you have ADD?

[Tom]

PA and Tommy,
Here's another.

So far, not one you have posted says they get thier news from Fox.
You really do not understand much of what you hear or have read to you, do you?

[46zilzal]

At least he watches it - you condem it out of ignorance.
Many many many of the broadcast clips are available on line and THAT ridiculous channel is now, sadly, on my list of cable choices.

It is hilarious to watch as they try to call the bilge they regurgitate anything other than what it is: propaganda.

The rest of the world laughs out loud that anyone takes it seriously.

[Tom]

No zilly, most of the world laughs at you.
You don't even know the diff between news and talks shows.

[46zilzal]

No zilly, most of the world laughs at you.
You don't even know the diff between news and talks shows.
In January 2008, the world's population is believed to have reached over 6,641,114,623.

I would suggest that 99.9999% of them do not know we exist here.

[Gittup]

Many many many of the broadcast clips are available on line and THAT ridiculous channel is now, sadly, on my list of cable choices.

It is hilarious to watch as they try to call the bilge they regurgitate anything other than what it is: propaganda.

The rest of the world laughs out loud that anyone takes it seriously.
Too funny!!!
I was asked by PA, who watches Fox. Sure seems there are plenty of defenders. Add Tommy to the list.

[riskman]

What it boils down to is this...."What is the average IQ of Americans?" You could say the crap that is aired on CBS (CSI for example) is clearly written for a grade 8 intellect.

Are we as smart as we think we are? Not with O'Reilly flapping his mouth selling out for a fat paycheck.


Hey, Leave CSI out of this. We ingrates need our reality.

On the "Radio Factor", O'Reilly lied and said he had served in combat with 'his unit', implying military service. Fortunately, a caller exposed the very real fact that O'Reilly never served in the military combat.

http://www.bobcesca.com/images/oreilly-in-combat.mp3

Typical O'reilly answer--SHUT UP !!!!! :lol: :lol:

[PaceAdvantage]

PA and Tommy,
Here's another.I guess it was a case of semantics. I interpreted your post to mean they ONLY get their news from Fox....you seem to imply that if you merely WATCH fox news, if only ONCE, you will get on this "list" of yours.

Whatever. Boring.

Question: Who has the highest ratings on cable TV news? Right. I thought so.

So this means, either a) there are a LOT more FOLKS IN THE US with a right-leaning bend then you care to admit, or b) there are a LOT of left-leaning folks watching Fox (like you, most likely).

Now, since it's human nature to watch and read what you AGREE with, I'm guessing a) is correct, and that there are STILL a lot more right-leaning folks in this country than you care to admit to yourself. And this most likely frightens you a tad as we head into November.

[Gittup]

I guess it was a case of semantics. I interpreted your post to mean they ONLY get their news from Fox....you seem to imply that if you merely WATCH fox news, if only ONCE, you will get on this "list" of yours.

Whatever. Boring.

Question: Who has the highest ratings on cable TV news? Right. I thought so.

So this means, either a) there are a LOT more FOLKS IN THE US with a right-leaning bend then you care to admit, or b) there are a LOT of left-leaning folks watching Fox (like you, most likely).

Now, since it's human nature to watch and read what you AGREE with, I'm guessing a) is correct, and that there are STILL a lot more right-leaning folks in this country than you care to admit to yourself.
Seriously PA, do you really think there are people that are that stupid that they would rely on Fox News as their exclusive source of "news"?
I watch Fox News for entertainment purposes only. It's so funny!
So, if "A" is correct, and 'B" is also correct, then "C" must be correct as well.
At least that's a "logic", though it really might not be so at all.

[bigmack]

Seriously PA, do you really think there are people that are that stupid that they would rely on Fox News as their exclusive source of "news"?
I watch Fox News for entertainment purposes only. It's so funny!
So, if "A" is correct, and 'B" is also correct, then "C" must be correct as well.
At least that's a "logic", though it really might not be so at all.
Where do you get your news?

[Gittup]

Where do you get your news?
Many sources. I like BBC, CNN, MsNBC, PBS, internet, various sources. Fox for laughs.
Where do you get yours?

[bigmack]

Many sources. I like BBC, CNN, MsNBC, PBS, internet, various sources. Fox for laughs.
Where do you get yours?
Commondreams.org, mediamatters.org, Moveon.org

You know, all the same internet & various sources that you do.

[PaceAdvantage]

I get mine at What Would Tyler Durden Do? (wwtdd.com)

[46zilzal]

Many sources. I like BBC, CNN, MsNBC, PBS, internet, various sources. Fox for laughs.
Where do you get yours?
Include BBC, CBC, and Reuters, and we have common resources.

[bigmack]

Include BBC, CBC, and Reuters, and we have common resources.
That's not all you two have in common. We're talking about a complete mindmeld.

Have you two been going over the various sites talking about the ridiculous bias in BBC & Reuters? I didn't think so. You buy what fits your agendas.

http://www.labour-watch.com/bbcbias.htm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=411846&in_page_id=1770

http://bustingbbcbias.blogspot.com/

http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/mediaobjectivity/Reuters_Overshadowing_Bias.asp

http://commonersense.blogspot.com/2005/09/more-reuters-bias.html

http://www.yourish.com/2007/02/09/2708

[GaryG]

Include BBC, CBC, and Reuters, and we have common resources.You forgot the Daily Worker....

[46zilzal]

That's not all you two have in common. We're talking about a complete mindmeld.

Have you two been going over the various sites talking about the ridiculous bias in BBC & Reuters? I didn't think so. You buy what fits your agendas.

http://www.labour-watch.com/bbcbias.htm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=411846&in_page_id=1770

http://bustingbbcbias.blogspot.com/

http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/mediaobjectivity/Reuters_Overshadowing_Bias.asp

http://commonersense.blogspot.com/2005/09/more-reuters-bias.html

http://www.yourish.com/2007/02/09/2708

The rational mind always compares from MULTIPLE sources so bias is negated. That was the whole purpose not unlike finding scientific data: reproduced results from multiple sources gets closer to the truth.

[46zilzal]

You forgot the Daily Worker....
Never heard of it but I have heard about The Militant.

[delayjf]

Did I ever even use the words Fair and Balanced in regard to ANY newscast?
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you refering to to Fox News here?
Lefty rarely refers to anything else than his beloved Fair and Balanced baloney

[DJofSD]

That was the whole purpose not unlike finding scientific data: reproduced results from multiple sources gets closer to the truth.

Not quiet.

It confirms the hypothesis. You assume the hypothesis and the truth are the same thing. That's not necessarily so.

And I would not compare activites surrounding political activities to those in the sciences. Politics is nothing if not purely focusing on human interests while the ultimate goal of science is an understanding of the world around us. There could be a degree of overlap here but they are not entirely the same.

[bigmack]

The rational mind always compares from MULTIPLE sources so bias is negated. That was the whole purpose not unlike finding scientific data: reproduced results from multiple sources gets closer to the truth.
So the list is MSNBC, BBC, PBS, Reuters, CBC, internet & various sources and you don't think they're working from the same slant? You gotta get out more often.

You & your sidekick on this "Fox Propaganda" routine is beyond funny. You schmoes get spoonfed ideations from the anti-Fox sites and franticly spread the word about things you have no personal knowledge of. Don't you ever see the hypocracy of your ways?

I'm no ra-ra Fox, but you pliably brained tots, cutting & pasting links to things you know nothing about is insufferable.

Live your life. FoxNews is there for some and not for others. Get over it.

[46zilzal]

A new study based on a series of seven US polls conducted from January through September of this year reveals that before and after the Iraq war, a majority of Americans have had significant misperceptions and these are highly related to support for the war in Iraq.

The polling, conducted by the Program on International Policy (PIPA) at the University of Maryland and Knowledge Networks, also reveals that the frequency of these misperceptions varies significantly according to individuals’ primary source of news. Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely.

An in-depth analysis of a series of polls conducted June through September found 48% incorrectly believed that evidence of links between Iraq and al Qaeda have been found, 22% that weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq, and 25% that world public opinion favored the US going to war with Iraq. Overall 60% had at least one of these three misperceptions.

Happens as studied. Wave that flag even though it is crap, and the weak minded clones eat it up.

[GaryG]

Wave that flag even though it is crap, and the weak minded clones eat it up.This is clasic zilly.....in point of fact it is weak minded clones like you that spout the far left ideologies right down the line. Lock Step Zilly they call him.

[bigmack]

A new study based on a series of seven US polls conducted from January through September of this year reveals that before and after the Iraq war, a majority of Americans have had significant misperceptions and these are highly related to support for the war in Iraq.

The polling, conducted by the Program on International Policy (PIPA) at the University of Maryland and Knowledge Networks, also reveals that the frequency of these misperceptions varies significantly according to individuals’ primary source of news. Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely.

An in-depth analysis of a series of polls conducted June through September found 48% incorrectly believed that evidence of links between Iraq and al Qaeda have been found, 22% that weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq, and 25% that world public opinion favored the US going to war with Iraq. Overall 60% had at least one of these three misperceptions.

Happens as studied. Wave that flag even though it is crap, and the weak minded clones eat it up.
And he just goes back to cutting & pasting. Nice work, Zilly. I knew it was a waste of time with you. Cut & paste and throw in a catchy little phrase of your own at the end.

WorldPublicOpinion.Org - Another one of your tip-top sources :lol::lol: From Oct '03, no less.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/102.php?nid=&id=&pnt=102&lb=brusc

[Gittup]

A new study based on a series of seven US polls conducted from January through September of this year reveals that before and after the Iraq war, a majority of Americans have had significant misperceptions and these are highly related to support for the war in Iraq.

The polling, conducted by the Program on International Policy (PIPA) at the University of Maryland and Knowledge Networks, also reveals that the frequency of these misperceptions varies significantly according to individuals’ primary source of news. Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely.

An in-depth analysis of a series of polls conducted June through September found 48% incorrectly believed that evidence of links between Iraq and al Qaeda have been found, 22% that weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq, and 25% that world public opinion favored the US going to war with Iraq. Overall 60% had at least one of these three misperceptions.

Happens as studied. Wave that flag even though it is crap, and the weak minded clones eat it up.
Cute stuff all around. How dare some accuse Fox of being a propaganda tool? After all, aren't there so many others?
Look at the honest reponse I gave earlier, and the "cute" response to same.
Grandaddy Clem also told me, "There ain't nuthin' more dangerous than a mind that thinks it's informed, and a mouth that says it."
I'll just add, fingers that type it.
Too funny!!!! And CUTE to boot!

[lsbets]

Wait Bigmack - zilly's non attributed quote said it was a new study, he never said that new meant 5 years old!

Hey, wonder if he'll link to the one I just read about, maybe Lefty has the link - that in coverage of the Presidential election Fox has been the most balanced network. Hmm, interesting.

[delayjf]

An in-depth analysis of a series of polls conducted June through September found 48% incorrectly believed that evidence of links between Iraq and al Qaeda have been found, 22% that weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq, and 25% that world public opinion favored the US going to war with Iraq. Overall 60% had at least one of these three misperceptions.
If anything this shows the opposite because

A) There are links to Iraq and Al Qaeda. There was no link between Iraq and 9/11. But Al Qaeda terrorist were in Iraq prior to the invasion. You simply don't want to believe it.

b) They did find wmd's in Iraq and they were used against US troops, that fact is well documented. They just didn't find the warehouses full of WMD's.

[46zilzal]

If anything this shows the opposite because

A) There are links to Iraq and Al Qaeda. There was no link between Iraq and 9/11. But Al Qaeda terrorist were in Iraq prior to the invasion. You simply don't want to believe it.

b) They did find wmd's in Iraq and they were used against US troops, that fact is well documented. They just didn't find the warehouses full of WMD's.


Making it up as you go along?

[delayjf]

Hardly, the facts are there.

[46zilzal]

Hardly, the facts are there.
Quote ANY reputable source that confirms that hogwash.

[JustRalph]

Quote ANY reputable source that confirms that hogwash.


We have been through this before...........several wanted terrorists, including some that were communicating with Al Queda were living in Iraq. Some in downtown bahgdad

[46zilzal]

We have been through this before...........several wanted terrorists, including some that were communicating with Al Queda were living in Iraq. Some in downtown bahgdad
Says who? and what connection did that have to crap?

One could go to many cities in the world and find wanted people on the run from the law. By physically being located in a place, it does not hold up that they were there for any specific activity until it is proven.

More retro-engineering to make the war palatable.

[JustRalph]

Says who? and what connection did that have to crap?

One could go to many cities in the world and find wanted people on the run from the law. By physically being located in a place, it does not hold up that they were there for any specific activity until it is proven.

More retro-engineering to make the war palatable.

I will swap you Wiki links. This guy lived in Iraq for years, in an Apartment owned by the Iraqi Secret Service

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Nidal



from the link above


After Libyan intelligence operatives were indicted with the Pan Am Flight 103 bombing, Gaddafi sought to distance himself from terrorism in an effort to re-establish diplomatic ties with the West. He expelled Abu Nidal, who returned to Iraq, where he had planned his first terrorist attack 26 years earlier. The Iraqi government later said Abu Nidal had entered the country using a fake Yemeni passport and was not there with their knowledge, but by 2001, at the latest, he was living there openly, and in defiance of the Jordanian government, whose state security court had sentenced him to death in absentia in 2001 for his role in the 1994 assassination of a Jordanian diplomat in Beirut.

Jane's suggests that Saddam Hussein ordered Abu Nidal killed in 2002 in case Abu Nidal acted as a mercenary for the U.S. in the event of an invasion.On August 19, 2002, al-Ayyam, the official newspaper of the Palestinian Authority, reported that Abu Nidal had died three days earlier of multiple gunshot wounds in his home in the wealthy al-Masbah neighborhood of al-Jadriyah, Baghdad, where the villa he lived in was owned by the Mukhabarat, or Iraqi secret service. [17]

[46zilzal]

The fellow was in the country, or was suggested. It proves little beyond that.

Not nearly enough reason for any more than ONE of the 3,929 dead to have been killed.

[Lefty]

Proves a lot, zilly. No one stayed in Iraq without Saddam's approval.

[46zilzal]

Proves a lot, zilly. No one stayed in Iraq without Saddam's approval.
Yes in that country with a population of millions, a few people were there without being noticed? Come on