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Equipik
01-14-2008, 05:54 PM
I read some entertaining comments about winners - vs - losers in the forum here. I have a comment that will probably be overlooked, but here goes:

The winners are the ones taking home the losers paychecks.

dav4463
01-16-2008, 07:39 PM
You can tell a loser when, on the rare time he does win, he screams like a little girl at a birthday party and then wants to show everyone his winning ticket!

Winners quietly walk up and get their money and concentrate on the next bet.

Losers are drunk by post time of Race 1 !

Winners aren't drunk until time for the late daily double!

Losers blame the jockey for their losses.

Winners use losses as a learning tool.

46zilzal
01-16-2008, 08:01 PM
Accurate observations.

DanG
01-16-2008, 08:18 PM
Winners have learned that losing is just part of the process.

ManeMediaMogul
01-16-2008, 09:05 PM
No one should know whether you win or lose. You should smile and be charming either way...and absolutely no rooting in the pressbox.

Bruddah
01-16-2008, 09:56 PM
Show me someone who doesn't mind losing and I will show you a Loser. :ThmbUp:

Grits
01-16-2008, 10:18 PM
Winners have learned that losing is just part of the process.

And obviously, the poster starting this thread may need more time in the game to understand this.

Laughing and making fun of your fellow players tends to take the edge off one's own expertise, one's brilliance. .

You're a wise and gracious horseplayer, Dan.

JustRalph
01-17-2008, 12:55 AM
winners don't get drunk..............

asH
01-17-2008, 01:05 AM
Winners take losing as a challenge, and make adjustments.





asH



Madness/losing is doing the same thing over and over and over expecting different results.

Great Communicator
01-17-2008, 02:50 AM
I was sitting in the race book at the Palms in Las Vegas one time, and a guy sitting next to me, who I didn't know, started mumbling to the screen and then to me after a particular race.

He then looked at his ticket, a loser I was sure. He then showed me the ticket and started mumbling some more. Surely a sign that he had just suffered a bad beat, I thought, and I was going to have to console this stranger.

He then gave me the ticket to look at which I did. It was a superfecta ticket and he had 120 $1 combinations on it. Including the winning super combination. For $6,500. He was considerably larger than I, so I gave him the ticket back, and offered my congratulations.

Is anyone else here in the habit of handing over $6,500 winning tickets to strangers?

I still can't tell if that man was a winner or a loser in the long run, but that was one weird experience I'll not soon forget.

Ilovedracing
01-17-2008, 04:10 AM
You can tell a loser when, on the rare time he does win, he screams like a little girl at a birthday party and then wants to show everyone his winning ticket!

Winners quietly walk up and get their money and concentrate on the next bet.

Losers are drunk by post time of Race 1 !

Winners aren't drunk until time for the late daily double!

Losers blame the jockey for their losses.

Winners use losses as a learning tool.


Loser are the ones entering the race track.

Winners are the ones staying away from the race track.

Ilovedracing
01-17-2008, 04:13 AM
I was sitting in the race book at the Palms in Las Vegas one time, and a guy sitting next to me, who I didn't know, started mumbling to the screen and then to me after a particular race.

He then looked at his ticket, a loser I was sure. He then showed me the ticket and started mumbling some more. Surely a sign that he had just suffered a bad beat, I thought, and I was going to have to console this stranger.

He then gave me the ticket to look at which I did. It was a superfecta ticket and he had 120 $1 combinations on it. Including the winning super combination. For $6,500. He was considerably larger than I, so I gave him the ticket back, and offered my congratulations.

Is anyone else here in the habit of handing over $6,500 winning tickets to strangers?

I still can't tell if that man was a winner or a loser in the long run, but that was one weird experience I'll not soon forget.

Well since you were in the casino with many many cameras recording you and him, I would think he felt secure and just wanted to share he finally won, and was probably thinking to himself, I am only down $600,000 lifetime. :bang:

Ilovedracing
01-17-2008, 04:16 AM
winners don't get drunk..............

Since when? explaine.

DanG
01-17-2008, 07:54 AM
Loser are the ones entering the race track.

Winners are the ones staying away from the race track.
How long have you been in the Magna marketing department again? :)

betchatoo
01-17-2008, 08:52 AM
Winners in racing, just like any other game, come in all sorts of personality styles. The biggest example of this nowadays is probably in poker where you see great players who are loudmouths and great players who are quiet. You see great players who whine constantly and great players who lose graciously (this doesn't mean they don't hate losing...they just handle it well).

The three common factors I've seen in the winning horse players I know is that they know the game well, they know what they do well individually and they respect value. They never bet just because there's another race, they only bet when there is good value.

Grits
01-17-2008, 09:02 AM
Loser are the ones entering the race track.

Winners are the ones staying away from the race track.

Tapped, huh? Happens to us all.

Otherwise, Ilovedracing, if your name here--the past tense, is any indication of your belief or your mindset regarding the game.

Dear, you may have entered the wrong room! Good luck anyway.

46zilzal
01-17-2008, 11:38 AM
In order to overcome the trials required to get to success, one needs a moral and psychological anchor to make it through the admitted highs and lows of wagering, and for that matter life.

When I was in high school I heard the football coach and all his Rah Rah horse crap: Winners never quit!.....and it rang hollow to me as it was very "old hat." Logical yes, but tired.

Going trough my university years I kept a tattered paper in my wallet with this written on it. It had been a gift from my mother. In effect she told me: when times are trying, you need something to hang onto or life will eat you up. The words have always helped:

IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

That one was an important adjunct to what one of my major professors told me when I was frustrated over getting into professional school. He told me: "Learn to hear no, just never accept it." I did not get into medical school right away. It took three years of effort.

I put all 33 rejection letters up on the wall and EVERY DAY for three years looked at each one (I had particular disdain for Timothy E. Sheely, admissions director at Creighton University), and said out loud: "You're not going to beat me." At that same time I recall vividly hearing the story of Thomas Edison and his light bulb. After trying over 750 different combinations for the element in the middle and none of them working, he was asked: "Aren't you upset to have put so much work in this and failed?" He quipped: "No, I haven't failed. I found 750 things that don't work!"

During my fledgling years trying to figure out the parimutuels, and being timid about wagering, I discovered another great philosophy that I keep right here, and begin each session on handicapping by reading it out loud:

"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat."
Theodore Roosevelt

We don't always have good days. The frustrations and setback make even the most rational of us lose focus. When you have a philosophical framework to bolster you during those times, giving your direction and reminding you that what you are experiencing is NORMAL and part of this game, it keeps you head in the game rationally.

Tom
01-17-2008, 11:42 AM
You haven't won anything until you spend it somewhere else.
Preferable a bar, Ralph! :cool::D