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kenwoodallpromos
01-05-2008, 02:21 PM
Romney calims todayh he will make the best changes in Washington if he is elected. Here is the changes he says he will make;
1) Keep over-extending the military
2) Keep us in Iraq
3) Keep waterboarding
4) Keep Bush's tax cuts for the rich
5) Keep illegal immigrants working on HIS property
6) Keep a big shot politician's son in the Whitehouse.
7) Keep gridlock

skate
01-05-2008, 07:01 PM
oooooohh k ken...


as long as they make cents to you.

Marshall Bennett
01-05-2008, 08:34 PM
After hearing the endless barrage of attacks against candidates within his own party , I could care less what happens to the scumbag !! Besides , his agenda is shallow and has trouble answering simple questions .

kenwoodallpromos
01-05-2008, 08:36 PM
Good for a laugh! Hillary today talked about all the Fed $$$ she would give to those making $85k+ per year! Bush tax cuts, Child health care, low interest college money.
If I did not know better I would think some of the candidates are well-off and favor the same!!LOL!!

ljb
01-05-2008, 08:37 PM
This guy reminds me of that other rich kid from Michigan. the one that tried to defeat Granholm.

ljb
01-05-2008, 08:39 PM
Good for a laugh! Hillary today talked about all the Fed $$$ she would give to those making $85k+ per year! Bush tax cuts, Child health care, low interest college money.
If I did not know better I would think some of the candidates are well-off and favor the same!!LOL!!
Hillary, a republican in sheep's clothing.

Lefty
01-05-2008, 08:52 PM
lbj, what are you on>? A tax raiser that promises everything to everyone a Repu? Not even close, bub.
I'd vote for Romney in a minute. Huckleberry attacked his Morman religion. Romney did not respond in kind. He attacked the man's record. Nothing personal about that.

wes
01-05-2008, 09:08 PM
Hillary, a republican in sheep's clothing.

ljb, where have you had your nose?


wes

ljb
01-05-2008, 09:51 PM
Hillary, a republican in sheep's clothing.

ljb, where have you had your nose?


wes
Two candidates receiving most support from Wall Street big wigs, Hillary and Rudy.
What does anyone's nose have to do with this ?

Lefty
01-05-2008, 10:47 PM
lbj, show me where Wall St is supporting Hillary? Where can I find that info?

kenwoodallpromos
01-06-2008, 01:51 AM
lbj, show me where Wall St is supporting Hillary? Where can I find that info?
"http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=H01"

hcap
01-06-2008, 06:19 AM
lbj, show me where Wall St is supporting Hillary? Where can I find that info?
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/18/hillary-clintons-wall-street-comeback/

"In the latest quarter, Ms. Clinton tapped into a gusher of donations for her presidential campaign from employees at the major investment banks. According to an analysis by Bloomberg, she picked up $748,896 from workers at Wall Street firms from July to September, which is more than the combined amount raised by Barack Obama, Rudolph Giuliani and Mitt Romney from those sources. It is also a switch from the second quarter, when Mr. Obama was the top Wall Street fundraiser, pulling in $739,579 to Clinton’s $424,545."

Facts are a bitch Lefty. Too bad you have no idea of anything other than your tight ass little Faux News inspired world view.

Careful, or the world wide Socialist movement will send those black helicopters to kidnap you and shackle you back to back with Neil Cavuto

Lefty
01-06-2008, 11:47 AM
hcap, facts are a bitch son. If she's getting a lot of donations from Wall St and Rudy is too, sounds like they, like a lot of gamblers/investors, are hedging their bets. I wouldn't read too much into it. You guys just can't help but always put dn Fox, can you? They must be doing something correctly, to have you guys so dn on them. Just proves the point that libs hate fair and balanced and blve their views are the only ones that should be heard. And you just can't respond to hardly anything without trying to demean someone. Classy.

ljb
01-06-2008, 12:55 PM
hcap, facts are a bitch son. If she's getting a lot of donations from Wall St and Rudy is too, sounds like they, like a lot of gamblers/investors, are hedging their bets. I wouldn't read too much into it. You guys just can't help but always put dn Fox, can you? They must be doing something correctly, to have you guys so dn on them. Just proves the point that libs hate fair and balanced and blve their views are the only ones that should be heard. And you just can't respond to hardly anything without trying to demean someone. Classy.
Come on Lefty, be a bigger man the Bush, admit you were wrong.
If you do some checking you will find limbaugh is backing Clinton also, seems Bill made him a millionaire and he wants another round. Perhaps his stash is running low. :lol:

Gittup
01-06-2008, 01:00 PM
hcap, facts are a bitch son. If she's getting a lot of donations from Wall St and Rudy is too, sounds like they, like a lot of gamblers/investors, are hedging their bets. I wouldn't read too much into it. You guys just can't help but always put dn Fox, can you? They must be doing something correctly, to have you guys so dn on them. Just proves the point that libs hate fair and balanced and blve their views are the only ones that should be heard. And you just can't respond to hardly anything without trying to demean someone. Classy.
"Fair and balanced"................:lol: :lol: :lol:

kenwoodallpromos
01-06-2008, 03:31 PM
"Fair and balanced"................:lol: :lol: :lol:
"The Clinton campaign announced Friday that former North Dakota Governor George Sinner and his wife Jane have endorsed Hillary Clinton’s Campaign for President." 1-4-08 her official website!

hcap
01-06-2008, 05:50 PM
hcap, facts are a bitch son. If she's getting a lot of donations from Wall St and Rudy is too, sounds like they, like a lot of gamblers/investors, are hedging their bets. I wouldn't read too much into it. You guys just can't help but always put dn Fox, can you? They must be doing something correctly, to have you guys so dn on them. Just proves the point that libs hate fair and balanced and blve their views are the only ones that should be heard. And you just can't respond to hardly anything without trying to demean someone. Classy.Lefty, you go out of your way to demean anyone not Lefty. For some reason you have divided the world into black and while. Refusing to see all the greys in between. If you are not Capitalist, you arer an evil Socialist, If you are not 100 % for Christmas in schools, malls or public places, you are a Bill O' "progressive secularlist"-(whatever the fuck that is). If you are not for invading Iraq and now Iran, you are anti American.

You asked for evidence that wall street is supporting Hillary
Originally Posted by Lefty
lbj, show me where Wall St is supporting Hillary? Where can I find that info?I answered that.

You didn't say they were hedging their bets, or WHY EVEN ASK the question in the first place-SON?
Do I go out of my way to show Faux as a phoney news org? You bet your life-SON

Lefty
01-06-2008, 07:12 PM
lbj, wrong about what? I made no statements but merely asked a question. You and zilly and hcap hold the record about being wrong, but some fairly newcomer libs trying hard to catch up.

Lefty
01-06-2008, 07:13 PM
h'cap you are getting nasty as they come around here. Fox phony? God you guys hate balanced news.

hcap
01-06-2008, 07:19 PM
h'cap you are getting nasty as they come around here. Fox phony? God you guys hate balanced news.
Too late son. Your mind is gone fishing in never-never land.

Lefty
01-06-2008, 07:19 PM
I just googled "Hillary and Wall Street.
Here's the headlines of the artilcles on top:
Hillary Warns Wall Street
Hillary Clintons Wall Street Windfall
Hillary Blames Wall street for Home Foreclosures
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...

Lefty
01-06-2008, 07:21 PM
Too late son. Your mind is gone fishing in never-never land.
Yeah right. I guess that's why they have so many viewers and O'Reilly is the toprated cable news show. Once again, FACTS over OPINION!

phatbastard
01-06-2008, 07:25 PM
...nothing better than having under-educated wanna be right-wingers trying to protect the folks who have been screwing them over for 7 years:lol:

hcap
01-06-2008, 07:32 PM
I just googled "Hillary and Wall Street.
Here's the headlines of the artilcles on top:
Hillary Warns Wall Street
Hillary Clintons Wall Street Windfall
Hillary Blames Wall street for Home Foreclosures
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...Your lousy internet search skills do not change the numbers of dollars raised. Try typing with eyes wide open.

In fact, try thinking in a similar fashion
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM--Son !

Lefty
01-06-2008, 07:38 PM
phat bastard, I guess you're like zilly, brainwashed by the finest liberal professors. Allthe indicators that you libs heralded B Clinton for have been exceeded by this admin. Yeah, gettin screwed: Tax cut instead of a Tax raise. Taking the terrorists head on instead of letting run rampant over us... Just gotta keep 'splaining this stuff to you smart guys.

Lefty
01-06-2008, 07:41 PM
hcap, speaking of Hillary's money, here's just a smidgeon of an article about where some of the money coming from

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118826947048110677.html

phatbastard
01-06-2008, 07:42 PM
and just how did that tax cut help you?......

hcap
01-06-2008, 07:54 PM
A smidgeon because it is behind the subscription wall Mr Sheeple.
Go get the pertinent info and post another smidgeon. This time something that supports your implications, son.
This smidgeon shown is meaningless......From your link.....

"Six members of the Paw family, each listing the house at 41 Shelbourne Ave. as their residence, have donated a combined $45,000 to the Democratic senator from New York since 2005, for her presidential campaign"

What exactly does that mean Mr.Sheeple?

Here's the article I posted......

"In the latest quarter, Ms. Clinton tapped into a gusher of donations for her presidential campaign from employees at the major investment banks. According to an analysis by Bloomberg, she picked up $748,896 from workers at Wall Street firms from July to September, which is more than the combined amount raised by Barack Obama, Rudolph Giuliani and Mitt Romney from those sources. It is also a switch from the second quarter, when Mr. Obama was the top Wall Street fundraiser, pulling in $739,579 to Clinton’s $424,545."

Which gives a better overall picture?
Do they make coloring books for searching the Internets? :lol:

Gittup
01-06-2008, 08:09 PM
A smidgeon because it is behind the subscription wall Mr Sheeple.
Go get the pertinent info and post another smidgeon. This time something that supports your implications, son.
This smidgeon shown is meaningless......From your link.....

"Six members of the Paw family, each listing the house at 41 Shelbourne Ave. as their residence, have donated a combined $45,000 to the Democratic senator from New York since 2005, for her presidential campaign"

What exactly does that mean Mr.Sheeple?

Here's the article I posted......

"In the latest quarter, Ms. Clinton tapped into a gusher of donations for her presidential campaign from employees at the major investment banks. According to an analysis by Bloomberg, she picked up $748,896 from workers at Wall Street firms from July to September, which is more than the combined amount raised by Barack Obama, Rudolph Giuliani and Mitt Romney from those sources. It is also a switch from the second quarter, when Mr. Obama was the top Wall Street fundraiser, pulling in $739,579 to Clinton’s $424,545."

Which gives a better overall picture?
Do they make coloring books for searching the Internets? :lol:
Totally hilarious!! As a "fairly newcomer lib" to PA, seems that I'll take my paper route money and invest in Binny&Smith (the makers of crayola crayons), thanks for the tip, HCap.
As far as trying to talk sense to the "L" guy....:bang: :bang: :bang:

Lefty
01-06-2008, 08:12 PM
MRNASTY(formerly known as Hacap)I did not say Wall St was not contributing to Hillary. I found it hard to blve. But it may be right, cause they think she will win according to some of the articles I read. Like I say, By funding the 2 likely winners of the primaries, they are hedging their bets. Surely not Rocket Science(well maybe to you. see, get nasty with me and i get nasty too) And a lot of her money comes from suspicious sources. And it's my opinion that if she keps losing primaries that money may slow down.

Phats, Tax cuts helped me and millions of other because it put more money in our pockets, grew the economy and provided more jobs. It's amazing you "smart" guys don't understand that.

phatbastard
01-06-2008, 08:19 PM
...yeah this way with ever expanding national debt, you leave a legacy for your children and your childrens children...great policy

hcap
01-06-2008, 08:26 PM
Mr Sheeple, you asked lbj, show me where Wall St is supporting Hillary? Where can I find that info?
We showed you.

Now you babble I did not say Wall St was not contributing to Hillary. I found it hard to blve.
So why bother posting this disclaimer
Originally Posted by Lefty
I just googled "Hillary and Wall Street.
Here's the headlines of the artilcles on top:
Hillary Warns Wall Street
Hillary Clintons Wall Street Windfall
Hillary Blames Wall street for Home Foreclosures
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...

And then some silly smidgeon from an incomplete WSJ article.

What you were TRYING in your inept way to imply is obvious.
I was pointing out your lack of honesty, internet ineptitude, and general overall shallow thinking. Want to continue?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...?? Son?

Lefty
01-06-2008, 08:26 PM
phats, this country boy is weary of explaining this over and over to you "smart guys." They said the samething during Reagan and the "beat" goes on adinfitum. In a poll the other day, (CBS or ABC, can't remember)86% of Americans said they were happy with their "lot" in life right now. Guess you jist ain't as smart as you think.

Lefty
01-06-2008, 08:29 PM
Mr Sheeple, you asked We showed you.

Now you babble
So why bother posting this disclaimer


And then some silly smidgeon from an incomplete WSJ article.

What you were TRYING in your inept way to imply is obvious.
I was pointing out your lack of honesty, internet ineptitude, and general overall shallow thinking. Want to continue?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...?? Son?
How does Hillary's lack of honset translate to me? Boy, what a stretch. And I said it was a "smidge' figured when you went there you'd figure out why. Guess I credited you for too much brains. Won't happen again.
Talk about babbling. You go on and on and on... Are you related to Hillary or Bill?

Lefty
01-06-2008, 10:00 PM
...yeah this way with ever expanding national debt, you leave a legacy for your children and your childrens children...great policy
Yes, we should do more to eliminate the wasteful entitlement programs. That would help.

ljb
01-07-2008, 07:55 AM
phat bastard, I guess you're like zilly, brainwashed by the finest liberal professors. Allthe indicators that you libs heralded B Clinton for have been exceeded by this admin. Yeah, gettin screwed: Tax cut instead of a Tax raise. Taking the terrorists head on instead of letting run rampant over us... Just gotta keep 'splaining this stuff to you smart guys.
Tax cut ? From NH... "The heating costs have tripled in this section of the country, exceeding any tax cuts these folks have received."
The terrorists are doing well in Pakistan while we waste our resources in Iraq.

rastajenk
01-07-2008, 09:29 AM
Sounds like you're suggesting we invade Pakistan in some kind of illegal, immoral, preemptive war, with regime change and nation building, ignoring the sure quagmire to follow....sound familiar?

ljb
01-07-2008, 10:32 AM
Sounds like you're suggesting we invade Pakistan in some kind of illegal, immoral, preemptive war, with regime change and nation building, ignoring the sure quagmire to follow....sound familiar?
Sounds like you are putting words in my mouth..... sound familiar?
We have given millions of dollars to Musharef (sp) and he has done nothing to help us capture/kill bin forgotten. Just pointing out to Lefty more of his hero's misdeeds.

Tom
01-07-2008, 10:39 AM
So far, our money has kept Pakistan's nukes out of the hands of terrorists.
I doubt they can do much about Bin Laden without the help of a very large coilition of forces and technology.

Lefty
01-07-2008, 11:17 AM
lbj, re: ypur post #36. Apples and bananas. One has nothing to do with the other except that without the tax cuts those people would have less money to pay for their heating. Energy costs have been explained many times. Go back and read. Hint, more demand for oil, won't open up new domestic oil fields.

Gittup
01-07-2008, 11:22 AM
So far, our money has kept Pakistan's nukes out of the hands of terrorists.
I doubt they can do much about Bin Laden without the help of a very large coilition of forces and technology.
Tom, I ask you an honest question (so please, no insults), do you really believe that Pakistan's nukes (or the technology to develop same) are "out of the hands of terrorists"? If so, keep believing.

Lefty
01-07-2008, 11:45 AM
lbj's #38. Misdeeds? Trying to keep Pakistan stable is a misdeed? Trying to keep those nukes from terrorists is a misdeed? Methinks you know even less about foreign affairs than economics. Sort of A "Hillary" Lite.

ljb
01-07-2008, 02:51 PM
lbj's #38. Misdeeds? Trying to keep Pakistan stable is a misdeed? Trying to keep those nukes from terrorists is a misdeed? Methinks you know even less about foreign affairs than economics. Sort of A "Hillary" Lite.
Lefty,
I'm gonna try to keep this simple so you may be able to understand. Osama attacks U.S. Hides in Afghanistan/Pakistan mountains. Bush makes feeble attempt in Afghanistan. Bush invades Iraq ??? Bush gives money to Pakistan. Osama roams the hills of Afghanistan/Pakistan. What part don't you understand?

ljb
01-07-2008, 02:54 PM
So far, our money has kept Pakistan's nukes out of the hands of terrorists.
I doubt they can do much about Bin Laden without the help of a very large coilition of forces and technology.
I thought you were for nuking em all. the hell with negotiations. Or perhaps bribery. We could send a bunker buster in and eliminate Osama in one fell swoop. But Bush don't wanna upset the dictator running Pakistan.

Tom
01-07-2008, 03:48 PM
Tom, I ask you an honest question (so please, no insults), do you really believe that Pakistan's nukes (or the technology to develop same) are "out of the hands of terrorists"? If so, keep believing.

So far. You have evidence to the contrary? Not conspiracy theory, evidence.
Although to ljb, I have been consistent that we should pattern nuke the whole area wher ewe think Bin Laden is hiding. All colateral casualties are acceptable, all. WQe shoould have chassed his camel rinding arse with missles from Day 1 with no regard for where he was or who was around him. That was the big mistake Clinton made - scared to pul the trigger. Add Bush to the list. Two presidents failed to get the job done.

Gittup
01-07-2008, 04:00 PM
So far. You have evidence to the contrary? Not conspiracy theory, evidence.
Although to ljb, I have been consistent that we should pattern nuke the whole area wher ewe think Bin Laden is hiding. All colateral casualties are acceptable, all. WQe shoould have chassed his camel rinding arse with missles from Day 1 with no regard for where he was or who was around him. That was the big mistake Clinton made - scared to pul the trigger. Add Bush to the list. Two presidents failed to get the job done.
Tom,
How could I provide you with "evidence to the contrary" NIE and the 16 agencies they rely on would be able to provide, though I don't think they'll put that out any time soon.

"Nuke the whole area"...now you're talking CRAZY! Go to your doctor and get some meds!

46zilzal
01-07-2008, 04:07 PM
"Nuke the whole area"...now you're talking CRAZY! Go to your doctor and get some meds!
He thinks all doctors are quacks. Some one forgot to use topical anesthetic the last time his colon was checked. I guess I would remember that too.

Gittup
01-07-2008, 04:53 PM
He thinks all doctors are quacks. Some one forgot to use topical anesthetic the last time his colon was checked. I guess I would remember that too.
:lol:

skate
01-07-2008, 05:14 PM
Tom, I ask you an honest question (so please, no insults), do you really believe that Pakistan's nukes (or the technology to develop same) are "out of the hands of terrorists"? If so, keep believing.

OOOOhhh I just love "IT", when they First have to ask Tom to "Please don't joke about me".:lol:

And then they just proceed with idiocy. Not only you Gittup, you have company.

You see, Tom is here for Truth and he recognizes that the truth -searchers, the Real "TRUTH AND BALANCE" people, need 'the laugh'.

We need 'that laugh' to get us thru the twisted, one sided, mentality...;) that people like the obstinate whelps they are, keep feeding us.
Because thru our silence, the weak perceive victory.


We must laugh at you ....:cool:

46zilzal
01-07-2008, 05:20 PM
OOOOhhh I just love "IT", when they First have to ask Tom to "Please don't joke about me".:lol:


I've got it, you use a form of hieroglyphics to try and communicate? Just like the instructions on most of the electronics nowadays and just as undecipherable.

Lefty
01-07-2008, 06:39 PM
Masharoff, while hardly perfect is the only friend we got there and we need him whether you, lbj, recognize it or not. Maybe you wanna do like Obama and attack Pakistan?

Tom
01-07-2008, 10:26 PM
Tom,
How could I provide you with "evidence to the contrary" NIE and the 16 agencies they rely on would be able to provide, though I don't think they'll put that out any time soon.

"Nuke the whole area"...now you're talking CRAZY! Go to your doctor and get some meds!

Tom, I ask you an honest question (so please, no insults),

You ask for an honest answer an no insults, then return the favor with an insult. You are nothing but another 46..... a junior high version. Go find a new bridge to live under, you troll.

Tom
01-07-2008, 10:29 PM
He thinks all doctors are quacks. Some one forgot to use topical anesthetic the last time his colon was checked. I guess I would remember that too.

Not all, just YOU, who have proved time and again you do not have the inteligence nor compassion to be anything more than just another quack.
But at least you talk today in your field of specialty - the COLON!!!!!

Tom
01-07-2008, 10:41 PM
I've got it, you use a form of hieroglyphics to try and communicate? Just like the instructions on most of the electronics nowadays and just as undecipherable.

You just do not read too well.

skate....you have to type r-e-a-l-l-y s-l-o-w or else 46 get confused.

Now he has a "buddy."
Reminds me of the old vaudeville routine....
"You're the dummy!"
"No, YOU'RE the dummy!"
"No, YOU'RE the dummy!"

Gittup
01-08-2008, 12:09 AM
You ask for an honest answer an no insults, then return the favor with an insult. You are nothing but another 46..... a junior high version. Go find a new bridge to live under, you troll.
So the honest answer is (drum roll)...an INSULT.:bang:

Tom
01-08-2008, 07:40 AM
Post 45 was your honest answer.
Really, you have problems follwing the threads here.
Maybe you you should cut back on the number of them you infect.

skate
01-08-2008, 05:25 PM
I've got it, you use a form of hieroglyphics to try and communicate? Just like the instructions on most of the electronics nowadays and just as undecipherable.

i dont know why , but...you go too dam fast for "YOU".

you say "i've got it", then you end YOUR sentence with a ? mark.

y-o-u g-e-t Y-o-u-r-s-e-l-f i-n a b-u-n-c-h,,,, t-h-e-n y-o-u
g-o b-o-o-m.


T-h-a-t-s t-h-e r-e-a-s-o-n f-o-r y-o-u-r p-r-o-b-l-e-m

n-o-w-a-d-a-y-s.


Tom, you are better than ever, but i go about my day 'shaking my head' and wondering with amazement, just how you ALWAYS hold-up against this stench from the infection.

It really reminds me of a ZORRO movie. you do it, without the sword.:eek:

Tom
01-08-2008, 08:46 PM
For truth, justice, and the American way......:lol:
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