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Teach
01-04-2008, 12:38 PM
"Could you lend me a twenty? I’m good for it. You know me," the voice said. It was Dougie. I knew him well. He was a regular. I’d seen him at the bar many times. He usually had a beer in one hand and the racing form in the other. His eyes were always glued to the monitors.

"Sorry, Dougie," I said. "I’m having a terrible day," I continued. Dougie then walked away; I suspect to try to put the touch on someone else. Frankly, I wouldn’t have lent him the dough, anyway. I figures that if I give him a "double-saw," he or one his friends would be pestering me every day. I didn’t need that, besides...

When I was in my early 20s, I was already going to the track on a regular basis. Suffolk Downs, Rockingham Park, the Massachusetts Fairs; there were even trip to "the Spa," "the Big A," and Belmont, not to mention the visits to harness tracks.

Well, one Labor Day, over forty years ago, a bunch of my buddies and I trekked north to New Hampshire’s Rockingham Park. Labor Day was a big day of thoroughbred racing at "the Rock." It was the closing day of Rockingham’s summer meet. In a day and age before simulcasting (how did we ever survive!), there were fourteen lives races: five in the morning, and then nine in the afternoon. It was a fun time. We’d yuk it up, drink beers, eat hog dogs and burgers, and talk about the races.

I can’t tell you how I did that day, but I can tell you about an incident that I’ll never forget. There were five of us. One of the guys was a friend of one of my close buddies. I’d didn’t personally know Mike him that well; yet I’d seen him around the neighborhood. Everyone who knew him said he was "a good egg."

As the afternoon was wearing on, Mike suddenly came up to me an said, "Walt, could you lend me ten dollars?" I remember saying, "I’d like to, but I won’t be the the neighborhood for a while because I’m leaving tomorrow to begin a teaching job on Long Island. I remember Mike saying, "Don’t worry, I’ll give you a check for $10; just don’t cash it for a few days until I get paid." I looked at the blanck check and said, "OK, fill it in for ten dollars and sign it. I’ll cash it later next week," I added.

The next day I was on my way to Long Island. I arrived in the apartnent I was renting and began teaching that week. Later in the week, I went to a local bank and opened up a checking account.

I gave the teller some cash, and the check that Mike had given me at the track.

Well, several days went by as I got myself acclimated to my apartment and my new teaching position. Oh, about a week or two had gone by when I received this communication from the bank. In so many words the bank indicated that the check that I had deposited had "bounced". At that momment, I was fit to be tied.

The following weekend, I drove up to Boston. I immediately looked for Mike. I found him hanging out at one of the bowling alleys. I confronted him. I remember Mike saying, "Hi Walt, how ya doing?" "Not too well," I replied. "You know that check you gave me at Rock on Labor Day, well it "bounced."

Well, Mike says, "Let me explain, I decided to change banks and cleaned out that account and started a new one someplace else. I didn’t know where you were living," he added, "so there was no way I could get in touch with you." At that moment, I felt like I was in school and listening to one of my students explain to me why he couldn't turn in his homework.

I then recall saying to Mike, "Just give me the ten bucks you owe me, and we’ll forget about it." I recall Mike reaching into his wallet and fishing out a $10 bill. He hands it to me. "Sorry about that, Walt," he says. I just turn and walk away. I would never lend money at the track again.

Greyfox
01-04-2008, 12:59 PM
I've known several bums over the years who tried to hit me up at the track.
I was reluctant, but if they persisted, I'd give them a sawbuck or two.
If they paid back great.
If they didn't, and they tried to bum again, I'd remind them of their present debt situation and wouldn't give a nickel. Sometimes it's worth $ 20 bucks to have them avoid you.
Having said that the best thing that happened at our track is the:

Automated Teller Machine = The Bank Machine

These birds don't have any excuses any more for being short. I just point them towards the machine. They go on there merry way.

1st time lasix
01-04-2008, 01:41 PM
Funny thing about money. If you throw thirty-five bucks at a trifecta with your key horse on a trainer angle....or double down with a c-note on a black jack hand in a casino you don't think twice about it. Have someone not pay you the twenty bucks he owes you and you remember it. Hey what about deciding to balk on a concert ticket or sporting event because of the extra $25 in price you think is too much. Ha!

wilderness
01-04-2008, 01:55 PM
Teach,
I can provide an enjoyable story as an alternative to loaning money.

There were a group of around twenty us that used to gather together as the races began. Everybody would say their early hello's and some would not enjoy the constant chatter and disappear to other corners.
On this particular evening I was vsiting with the group.
Cashed some decent early doubles and caught the 3rd race and decided that I was determined to go home with the majority of present fortune.
Taking money out to the car didn't seem like a sound idea.
One person came to mind.
Frequently he was accompanied by his wife. It took me some searching to find him and after saying our hello's, I said, "Gwinell, could you hold this $800 for me and not return it till after the last race is completed?"
Sure Don.

An off I go.
About three races and some more winnings later, I decided to check and see if Gwinell needed any money from my additional winnings.

As I approach, he says, "what you doing here Don, there are many more races before the last?"
Cashed some more tickets and thought you might have a need for a more enjoyable evening?"
" Nah! I'm OK"

Off I go.

After the last race bell rang, Gwinell approached me and said, "here's your money Don". :)

Tom
01-04-2008, 02:15 PM
You loan a guy $20 buck, he promises to pay you back Saturday.
Saturday comes and he nevers shows up. In fact, he avoids you for weeks on end.

Best $20 I ever spent! :lol:

kenwoodallpromos
01-04-2008, 03:15 PM
I was going to read this thread, but saw how long your post was and jux=st read your last line and no one else's posts:
"I would never lend money at the track again."
Even though I cheated like I did in school whenever I had to do a book report (read the last paragraph of each chapter then the last chapter), I just learned a lot from you in your last sentence!!

ponyplayerdotca
01-04-2008, 03:29 PM
It's not the amount that matters, per se. It's being taken for a fool that raises one's ire.

You'd like to believe that a man still has his "word" in this life.

If you toss an extra $100 of your own money on a roulette bet and lose it, you did so on your own terms, and you can only be mad at yourself.

Lend someone $10 who promises to pay you, and then doesn't, and yeah, you get mad and would do anything to get that money back. No one likes being taken for a sucker.

The old adage is true to some degree:

Never a borrower nor a lender be. (At least at the track!)

porchy44
01-05-2008, 12:09 AM
Years ago I was with my father at a track about 100 miles from home. A man he knew approached him and aksed to borrow 10 dollars to buy gas for the trip home. My father not convinced the money was for gas handed him 5 dollars. The man said, "I cant get home on only five dollars". My dad said,
"go as far as you can and walk the rest of the way".

Sinner369
01-05-2008, 01:46 AM
Should be the title of this thread!

Completely agree with everything said!


sinner:bang:

098poi
01-05-2008, 10:23 AM
Joke

A guy enters the track and a man approaches and says,"Hey buddy can you help me out with twenty bucks, my wife is sick and I have to get a cab to the hospital". The first guy says, "How do I know you won't just go in and gamble with the money"? The second guy snaps back "Oh I've got gambling money"!!!
:lol:

Jeff P
01-06-2008, 03:14 PM
I loaned $40.00 to a guy named Robbie (not his real name) at Turf Paradise in 1989. A group of us used to regularly sit in the grandstand near the finish line. Robbie was part of that group. His brother was a cop. Another guy in that group was a jockey agent who was handling Joey Castro's book at that time. Because Robbie was part of that group I trusted him. I couldn't in my wildest dreams imagine he would stiff me for forty bucks. But stiff me he did. And shortly thereafter he began sitting somewhere else once I started asking him to pay me back.

I got my revenge though... and it was worth the forty bucks it cost me.

In the summer it's too hot to run horses in the Phoenix area... (anyone who has ever spent a summer there knows what an understatement THAT is.) So they run in Prescott instead where the higher elevation makes for a nicer climate in the summer. So there I was driving up I-17 one Sunday morning in Aug, 1989 towards Prescott for a day at the races... and standing on the side of the road (at the Greenway Rd on ramp) trying to hitch a ride was... you guessed it... Robbie.

I slowed to a stop and rolled down my window. Robbie approached my pickup truck and peered in.

"Where you going?" I asked.

"Prescott Downs," he answered.

"Really," I said. "Me too."

"Awesome," he started to say. Then he read my eyes and his voice trailed off. "Sorry about that forty bucks Jeff," he said. "But I don't have enough to pay you AND go to the races today."

"Have it your way," I said. I rolled up my window and drove off. I'll never forget the look on his face... realizing he wasn't going to get a ride because he had stiffed me. I don't know if he made it to the races that day. In fact I never saw him again. But the look on his face (and spending a day at the races without him) was worth at least forty bucks.


-jp

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Greyfox
01-06-2008, 04:06 PM
I'll never forget the look on his face... realizing he wasn't going to get a ride because he had stiffed me. I don't know if he made it to the races that day. In fact I never saw him again.

-jp

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He was picked up by a group of Apache-Mohaves.
A pregnant native girl fingered him as the father of her child.
A bow-and-arrow wedding followed.
Today he sells wooden "hitch-hikers" to tourists and mutters
"If only I wouldn't a stiffed Jeff." :lol:

098poi
01-06-2008, 04:13 PM
"But I don't have enough to pay you AND go to the races today."

Classic!

thespaah
01-13-2008, 08:47 PM
Years ago I was with my father at a track about 100 miles from home. A man he knew approached him and aksed to borrow 10 dollars to buy gas for the trip home. My father not convinced the money was for gas handed him 5 dollars. The man said, "I cant get home on only five dollars". My dad said,
"go as far as you can and walk the rest of the way".
The best way to get rid of a begging POS at the track is if they ask me for money, I tell them "no, but will bet for you. Just tell me what you want"..That usually gets rid of them.