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Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 02:55 PM
Welcome To "Live" Selections!

I am happy to share my "LIVE" selections with you.
All of my plays are to be played to Win and/or Place only! (I post the Place Payoffs also)
However if you like to play exoctics these are great Keys!
I am a Toteboard Reader. I have designed my own program the operates in real time with Live Feeds. I only use the Money to handicap. I use nothing else to aid me in my handicapping whatsoever. I am a Volume Player, I play many races thru the day!
I will post the selections as soon as I can! This may vary from say 5 min to post to almost post time, so be ready!... as they are "Live"! I will NEVER past post. Play at your own Risk!... Remember to Re-fresh your page right before post time if you do not see my selection !


I will be playing the following tracks today!

Aqueduct - Calder - Fair Grounds - Golden Gate

Hawthorne - Hollywood - Philly

Turfway - Turf Paradise - Woodbine


Tonites Tracks!

Mountaineer

Here is the information that will be posted with each selection!...

1) Track Name

2) Race Number

3) Horse Number #

4) The Post Time odds

I also from time to time will give an "UPDATE!" on all my plays and Profits/Losses and ROI as time permits between races. All Profits & Losses will be based on a $2.00 per wager to Win, then you can just multiply it by whatever you like to wager per play!

Good Luck! & Let's have some Fun!

Respectfully,
Ultimate Selector!

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 02:58 PM
I am getting a late start here, it's been several days since I last posted as I have been busy!

Let's see what we can hunt down today!


Best of Luck to all! :)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:01 PM
Turfway 5th Race ... #8 at 8-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:04 PM
Hawthorne 2nd Race ... #8 at 7-2

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:08 PM
Woodbine 5th Race ... #9 at 6-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:09 PM
Hawthorne 2nd Race ... #8 at 7-2

Ran 3rd ...

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:10 PM
Turfway 5th Race ... #8 at 8-1

Ran 2nd by a Head! .. Paid .. $8.60

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:12 PM
Woodbine 5th Race ... #9 at 6-1

Ran 3rd ...

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:21 PM
Turf Paradise 3rd Race ... #4 at 7-2

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:24 PM
Philly 8th Race ... #5 at 5-2

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:25 PM
Turf Paradise 3rd Race ... #4 at 7-2

Ran 4th ...

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:29 PM
Turfway 6th Race .... #5 at 13-1 .. & .. #9 at 23-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:33 PM
Hawthorne 3rd Race ... #4 at 5-2

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:36 PM
Woodbine 6th Race ... #1 at 5-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:37 PM
Calder 8th Race ... #2 at 5-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:41 PM
Calder 8th Race ... #2 at 5-1

Ran 3rd ...

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:46 PM
Golden Gate 1st Race ... #4 at 8-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:47 PM
Turf Paradise 4th Race ... #4 at 12-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:49 PM
Philly 9th Race ... #12 at 10-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:51 PM
Golden Gate 1st Race ... #4 at 8-1

Ran 3rd ...

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:52 PM
Turf Paradise 4th Race ... #4 at 12-1

Ran 3rd ...

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:55 PM
Philly 9th Race ... #12 at 10-1

Booo Yaaa!!!

Winner! ... Pays ... $22.80 - 10.00 :)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 03:57 PM
Turfway 7th Race ... #2 at 25-1 .. & .. #3 at 10-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:00 PM
Hawthorne 4th Race ... #6 at 7-2

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:05 PM
Woodbine 7th Race ... #8 at 5-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:08 PM
Woodbine 7th Race ... #8 at 5-1

Ran 4th ...

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:12 PM
Update!



Plays = 15


Wins = 1______7%


Place = 2______13%


Show = 7______47%


Ran 4th or Better! = 9____60%


Overall Win Profits are Down (-) $11.20 ... (per $2.00)

Overall Place Profits are Down (-) $15.40 ... (per $2.00)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:15 PM
Turf Paradise 5th Race ... #6 at 7-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:19 PM
Turf Paradise 5th Race ... #6 at 7-1

Ran 4th ...

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:24 PM
Fairgrounds 7th Race ... #8 at 8-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:25 PM
Turfway 8th Race ... #4 at 12-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:29 PM
Hawthorne 5th Race ... #5 at 9-2

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:31 PM
Hollywood 3rd Race ... #3 at 1-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:34 PM
Woodbine 8th Race ... #7 at 7-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:39 PM
Hollywood 3rd Race ... #3 at 1-1

Ran 2nd .. Paid .. $3.00

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:40 PM
Woodbine 8th Race ... #7 at 7-1

Winner! ... Pays ... $16.90 - 5.80 :)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:44 PM
Turf Paradise 6th Race ... #8 at 6-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:49 PM
Turf Paradise 6th Race ... #8 at 6-1

Ran 4th ...

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:54 PM
Turfway 9th Race ... #6 at 29-1 .. & .. #4 at 7-2

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 04:59 PM
Hollywood 4th Race ... #4 at 4-1 .. & .. #2 at 7-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:03 PM
Woodbine 9th Race ... #8 at 8-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:06 PM
Turfway 9th Race ... #6 at 29-1 .. & .. #4 at 7-2

Winner! on the #4 ... Pays ... $7.60 - 4.40 :)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:09 PM
Hollywood 4th Race ... #4 at 4-1 .. & .. #2 at 7-1

Winner! as it Came 4-2 ... Pays ... $10.00 - 5.60 :)

The #2 .. Paid .. $6.40

Exacta 4-2 ... Pays ... $55.00 :jump:

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:15 PM
Turf Paradise 7th Race ... #7 at 5-2

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:19 PM
Golden gate 4th Race ... #5 at 9-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:21 PM
Turfway 10th Race ... #8 at 5-1 .. & .. #10 at 8-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:24 PM
Turf Paradise 7th Race ... #7 at 5-2

Ran 2nd .. Paid .. $3.40

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:25 PM
Golden gate 4th Race ... #5 at 9-1

Ran 3rd ...

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:30 PM
Turfway 10th Race ... #8 at 5-1 .. & .. #10 at 8-1

Winner! ... as it Came 8-10 ... Pays ... $15.20 - 8.60 :)

The #10 .. Paid .. $9.60

Exacta 8-10 .. Paid .. $147.40 :jump:

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:32 PM
Woodbine 10th Race ... #8 at 9-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:40 PM
Hollywood 5th Race ... #4 at 11-1 .. & .. #1 at 7-2

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:47 PM
Turf Paradise 8th Race ... #2 at 6-1 .. & .. #8 at 12-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:48 PM
Hollywood 5th Race ... #4 at 11-1 .. & .. #1 at 7-2

Ran 3rd on the #1 ...

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:54 PM
Golden Gate 5th Race ... #1 at 3-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 05:56 PM
Hawthorne 8th Race ... #4 at 9-2

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 06:01 PM
Woodbine 11th Race ... #2 & #3 .. Both at 6-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 06:02 PM
Hawthorne 8th Race ... #4 at 9-2

Easy Winner! ... Pays ... $12.40 - 5.40 :)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 06:04 PM
Golden Gate 5th Race ... #1 at 3-1

Ran 3rd ...

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 06:11 PM
Hollywood 6th Race ... #1 at 8-1 .. & .. #10 at 3-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 06:16 PM
Turf Paradise 9th Race ... #7 at 6-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 06:18 PM
Hollywood 6th Race ... #1 at 8-1 .. & .. #10 at 3-1

Ran 2nd on the #10 .. Paid .. $4.40

pandy
11-25-2007, 06:23 PM
I find it hard to believe that you could show a long term profit using the toteboard with no handicapping involved.

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 06:25 PM
Golden gate 5th Race ... #5 at 6-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 06:28 PM
I find it hard to believe that you could show a long term profit using the toteboard with no handicapping involved.

Follow along & find out ... believe in what you like to believe in ... No worries here! ;)

There is handicapping involved in what I do!

It's just a different way to handicap!

Best of Luck to you! :ThmbUp:

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 06:39 PM
Turf Paradise 9th Race ... #7 at 6-1

Easy Winner! ... Pays ... $9.00 - 6.60 :)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 06:42 PM
Hollywood 7th Race ... #2 at 9-2

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 06:53 PM
Golden Gate 7th Race ... #7 at 7-2

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:01 PM
Mountaineer 1st Race ... #5 at 5-2 .. & .. #4 at 34-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:05 PM
Golden Gate 7th Race ... #7 at 7-2

Another Easy Winner! ... Pays ... $7.20 - 4.20 :)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:06 PM
Mountaineer 1st Race ... #5 at 5-2 .. & .. #4 at 34-1

Ran 2nd on the #5 .. Paid .. $2.80

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:12 PM
Hollywood 8th Race ... #3 at 6-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:19 PM
Hollywood 8th Race ... #3 at 6-1


Wire to Wire Winner! on #3 Daytona! ... Pays ... $13.20 - 7.40 :)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:22 PM
Update!



Plays = 40


Wins = 9_______23%


Place = 15______38%


Show = 22______55%


Ran 4th or Better! = 25____63%


Overall Win Profits are UP! + $1.50 ... (per $2.00) :)

Overall Place Profits are Down (-) $18.60 ... (per $2.00)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:24 PM
Golden Gate 8th Race ... #3 at 5-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:26 PM
Mountaineer 2nd Race ... #7 at 6-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:35 PM
Golden Gate 8th Race ... #3 at 5-1

Ran 2nd .. Paid .. $4.40

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:36 PM
Mountaineer 2nd Race ... #7 at 6-1

Winner! ... Pays ... $14.20 - 6.60 :)

PaceAdvantage
11-25-2007, 07:39 PM
Follow along & find out ... believe in what you like to believe in ... No worries here! ;)

There is handicapping involved in what I do!

It's just a different way to handicap!

Best of Luck to you! :ThmbUp:
You've been back posting for a week or two now....have you had a winning day yet? What's your cumulative ROI betting your posted pick to win so far?

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:42 PM
Hollywood 9th Race ... #8 at 11-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:46 PM
You've been back posting for a week or two now....have you had a winning day yet? What's your cumulative ROI betting your posted pick to win so far?

All of my threads have a Daily Re-Cap!

Your welcome to view each of these for the days total.

I will however do an up to date total for you so you may then use against me in any way you wish! :D

I will do it later when I have a chance tonight. :ThmbUp:

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:53 PM
Golden Gate 9th Race ... #5 at 4-1 .. & .. #1 at 7-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:57 PM
Mountaineer 3rd Race ... PASS!

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 07:59 PM
Golden Gate 9th Race ... #5 at 4-1 .. & .. #1 at 7-1

Booo Yaaa!!!

Winner! goin away on the #1 ... Pays ... $23.20 - 11.40 :) :jump: :ThmbUp:

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 08:02 PM
Update!



Plays = 44


Wins = 11______25%


Place = 18______41%


Show = 26______59%


Ran 4th or Better! = 29____66%


Overall Win Profits are UP! + $28.90 ... (per $2.00) :)

Overall Place Profits are Down (-) $6.20 ... (per $2.00)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 08:05 PM
Hollywood 9th Race ... #8 at 11-1

Ran 3rd ...

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 08:11 PM
Hollywood 10th Race ... #3 at 6-1 .. & .. #9 at 6-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 08:18 PM
Hollywood 10th Race ... #3 at 6-1 .. & .. #9 at 6-1

Ran 2nd on the #3 .. Paid .. $5.40

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 08:19 PM
Mountaineer 4th Race ... #8 at 10-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 08:23 PM
Mountaineer 4th Race ... #8 at 10-1

Ran 2nd .. Paid .. $11.20

pandy
11-25-2007, 08:27 PM
You've been back posting for a week or two now....have you had a winning day yet? What's your cumulative ROI betting your posted pick to win so far?

He does have wrap ups after most of his days and from what I can see, the overall results are very poor, a big loss and a low win percentage. But that's to be expected if you make bets based on a toteboard handicapping system.

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 08:44 PM
Mountaineer 5th Race ... #1 at 1-1

Tape Reader
11-25-2007, 08:49 PM
There is handicapping involved in what I do!

It's just a different way to handicap!

Best of Luck to you! :ThmbUp:
[/QUOTE]

Well said.

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 08:50 PM
Mountaineer 5th Race ... #1 at 1-1

Won for Fun! Wire to Wire! ... Pays ... $3.60 - 2.40 :)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 08:52 PM
There is handicapping involved in what I do!

It's just a different way to handicap!

Best of Luck to you! :ThmbUp:


Well said.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Tape! I appreciate that ...

Good to see you! Hope all is well! :ThmbUp:

The Magenta Donkey
11-25-2007, 08:54 PM
This is like :58 flat but without the annoying music and fozzie bear voice.

PaceAdvantage
11-25-2007, 08:56 PM
Well said.You forgot the vitally important WINNING part....

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 09:09 PM
Mountaineer 6th Race ... #8 at 7-2

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 09:14 PM
Mountaineer 6th Race ... #8 at 7-2

Winner! Goin away! ... Pays ... $9.80 - 4.80 :)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 09:33 PM
Mountaineer 7th Race ... #3 at 8-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 09:37 PM
Mountaineer 7th Race ... #3 at 8-1

My 3rd Winner! in a Row! & ... 6 Wins out of my last 10 Plays!

Pays ... $14.40 - 5.00 :)

the little guy
11-25-2007, 09:40 PM
My 3rd Winner! in a Row! & ... 6 Wins out of my last 10 Plays!

Pays ... $14.40 - 5.00 :)


Congratulations!!!!!

Just curious, did you like the other winners after the horses broke from the gate or just this one?

Maybe it's just me but I keep hearing Robert Shaw screaming " There's been a mistake! Give me my money back! "

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 09:40 PM
Update!



Plays = 49


Wins = 14______29%


Place = 23______47%


Show = 31______63%


Ran 4th or Better! = 34____69%


Overall Win Profits are UP! + $44.70 ... (per $2.00) :)

Overall Place Profits are UP! + $10.60 ... (per $2.00) :)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 09:42 PM
Congratulations!!!!!

Just curious, did you like the other winners after the horses broke from the gate or just this one?

What are you saying ??

The Magenta Donkey
11-25-2007, 09:43 PM
What are you saying ??
This post could be used as evidence?

the little guy
11-25-2007, 09:43 PM
What are you saying ??


I said PLACE it on Lucky Dan! That horse is going to finish second!

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 09:46 PM
I said PLACE it on Lucky Dan! That horse is going to finish second!

I am lost here ... I see no post you made prior to the one you made congratulating me.

When & where did you mention the above statement?

the little guy
11-25-2007, 09:48 PM
As far as I know the windows close after the gate opens.

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 09:57 PM
Mountaineer 8th Race ... #7 at 5-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 09:58 PM
As far as I know the windows close after the gate opens.

I have "Live" feeds I KNOW when thery are OFF!

I do not past post!

You may want to try re-freshing your page at post time! ;)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 10:00 PM
Mountaineer 8th Race ... #7 at 5-1

Ran 4th ...

the little guy
11-25-2007, 10:02 PM
Ran 4th ...

Yeah, and you posted this one before they were off.

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 10:08 PM
Yeah, and you posted this one before they were off.

I see you are not on TOP of this game!

Why don't you fell free to go & check my post times aginst the OFF times at Equibase!

Dahoss9698
11-25-2007, 10:13 PM
I see you are not on TOP of this game!

Why don't you fell free to go & check my post times aginst the OFF times at Equibase!

I have no dog in this fight, but you posted at 9:33 and the race went off at 9:32 per DRF.

Next Post 9:58 Off: 9:32 | 1 1/8 Miles | 3 Year Olds And Up | Claiming ($5,000) | Purse: $10,000

#HorseJockeyWeightWinPlaceShow3Dawn GoneSanches J H12114.405.003.204Trick ManWhitney D G1124.003.406Ready to ExchangeSpieth S1187.80

the little guy
11-25-2007, 10:13 PM
I see you are not on TOP of this game!

Why don't you fell free to go & check my post times aginst the OFF times at Equibase!


First of all I did refresh as they broke from the gate and you hadn't posted, but I also did just check the chart, and the off time was 9:32. You posted at 9:33.

As I pointed out.....I've seen this movie before.

The Magenta Donkey
11-25-2007, 10:20 PM
That should be an automatic ban. It's bad enough the guy isn't actually gambling to begin with, but to redboard after the fact is malicious.

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 10:22 PM
I will admit this fact, However you then need to ask just what times you are comparing to. I may post it at 9:33.02 vs off being at 9.32.59 It's splitting hairs see what I mean?

Look at all my other races! They are all off 1 min b4 post!

Let me also say this .... even if I were past posting ( which I'm not) I would have a much better win%

Also I will post up against you anytime & I will let you past post 15 seconds into the race! I will still come out on top!

Think about it! spitting hairs & trying to make an issue where there is not one!

Anyone who has followed me knows this is Not an issue & has never been. Now all of a sudden a new guy I have never spoken a word to comes up with this! :confused:

Good Luck to you! :ThmbUp:

ArlJim78
11-25-2007, 10:23 PM
well that certainly clears it up.

the little guy
11-25-2007, 10:26 PM
That should be an automatic ban. It's bad enough the guy isn't actually gambling to begin with, but to redboard after the fact is malicious.


Barney Fife cracks another case! ;)

The Magenta Donkey
11-25-2007, 10:27 PM
Hollywood Race 8 #3 at 5-1

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 10:45 PM
Mountaineer 10th Race ... #1 at 12-1

whobet
11-25-2007, 10:47 PM
They are tired of beating up on WHOBET,

so they are taking it out on you US

Go ULTIMATE SELECTOR

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 10:48 PM
Today's Re-Cap!



Plays = 51


Wins = 14______27%


Place = 23______45%


Show = 31______61%


Ran 4th or Better! = 34____67%


Overall Win Profits are UP! + $40.70 ... (per $2.00) :)

Overall Place Profits are UP! + $6.60 ... (per $2.00) :)


My 5 Highest Payoffs today: $23.20 - 22.80 - 16.90 - 15.20 - 14.40



As always, Thank You for your Views & Comments!
Have a Great Nite!

Respectfully – Professionally,
Ultimate Selector! :)

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 10:51 PM
They are tired of beating up on WHOBET,

so they are taking it out on you US

Go ULTIMATE SELECTOR

Yeah I see that Who! Don't let it even bother you!

I guess no one likes anybody selecting Winners here! :confused:

Just keep the Faith & do what you do best ...

helping anyone that chooses to use our information!

It's not for eveyone ... to each his own!

Best of Luck! :ThmbUp:

GO WHOBET! ...

Ultimate Selector!
11-25-2007, 11:04 PM
Here is a breakdown of my Live Selections! Beginning 11-13-07





Date___Win Profits__ _ W____ P_____S____4th___# Plays__ __





11-13___(25.00)__ ___13____28____33____39_____58



11-14___(18.20)______19____26____38____43_____70



11-15____ Did Not Play!



11-16___$70.00___ __12____21____22____32_____46



11-17___(33.40)____ __6____16____22____25_____43



11-18___(29.40)__ ___ 7____11____17____20_____30



11-19___(24.20)__ ___10____24____31____33_____51



11-20___(6.00)_______5_____6_____9____10_____47



11-21___$3.80___ ____3_____3____3_____5_____10



11-22___Did Not Play!



11-23___Did Not Play!



11-24___Did Not Play!



11-25____$40.70______14____23____31____34_____51







________Win Profits__ _ W____ P_____S____4th___# Plays__ __





Totals__ - $21.70______89___158___206____241____406





ROI %___ - 2.67%





Net Overall Win Profits - $21.70 ___ (per $2.00)





Win% _____________ 21.9 %

Place or Better %____ 38.9 %

Show or Better %____ 50.1 %

4th or Better %______ 59.4%





Professionally,

Ultimate Selector! :)

PaceAdvantage
11-26-2007, 12:49 AM
I guess no one likes anybody selecting Winners here! :confused:We like selections we can ACTUALLY USE. Not ones that are posted either a split second before (or in some cases after) the gates open. There's no point in that. It's nothing anyone can actually USE. You didn't get that your first time around here, and you're not getting that now, apparently.

Don't go around posting how you're just "helping folks win" when they can't even get a bet down on your pick because you post way too close to the race going off (or sometimes after the race goes off)....

Let's be honest. Either you're posting for YOUR OWN EGO'S SAKE, to show everyone how good you are (well, your ROI is negative, so scratch the good part), or, you're hoping to sell your software one day, so you're trying to get a good word out on your product, but that's not working too well either....

BTW, where is Anderon? Has anyone ever seen you two in the same room together. Seems that when you're here, he's gone, and when you're gone, he's here....funny how that works....

PaceAdvantage
11-26-2007, 12:51 AM
They are tired of beating up on WHOBET,

so they are taking it out on you US

Go ULTIMATE SELECTORNobody was beating up on WHOBET. We were beating up on your ghost fans. Big difference.

spilparc
11-26-2007, 03:26 AM
BTW, where is Anderon? Has anyone ever seen you two in the same room together. Seems that when you're here, he's gone, and when you're gone, he's here....funny how that works....

If I remember correctly, they have both put up their selections on the same day on two different occasions. Their personalities are night and day. Not proof of anything, but I'm 95% convinved they are two different people.

We like selections we can ACTUALLY USE. Not ones that are posted either a split second before (or in some cases after) the gates open.

Actually, as long as they put up their selections before the bell goes off I don't care. I'm not betting on their selections, and I don't know anyone who would, but if THEY are betting on them (and they say they are), then who cares. In my opinion what they're doing is valid.

Past posting is not valid, and I think some are overly nitpicky about that. A few seconds after the bell here and there--too tough to tell. I had a bookie that used to let me bet after the game started all the time--it didn't help me. Point is, if they are past posting--that's bad--even if it's only a few seconds, which I don't think helps them in any way, but still bad--if they're not--I don't care how close to the bell they post their selections.

I'm curious to see if they can continue to do as well as they're are doing over an even larger sample of races--especially Anderon.

By the way, I would be willing to lay 17-1 that Ultimate Selector is the older twin.

pandy
11-26-2007, 06:04 AM
I don't think that Ultimate Selector is past posting, but his system isn't very good. Any system that relys on the toteboard as its main handicapping tool can't work.

PaceAdvantage
11-26-2007, 10:01 AM
If I remember correctly, they have both put up their selections on the same day on two different occasions. Their personalities are night and day. Not proof of anything, but I'm 95% convinved they are two different people.Yes, the internal data seems to prove they are two different people, I agree....