trying2win
11-13-2007, 02:03 AM
I bet through these ADWS these days:
1. PREMIER TURF CLUB
2. LINK2BET
3. HPI
...Here is my review, comparing the above three companies in order of ranking, and with added commentary:
A. BEST REBATES OVERALL
--PTC (by a considerable margin over LINK2BET)
--LINK2BET (on par with Pinnacle on straight bets, at my lower betting level)
--HPI (the worst by far of these three )
...In my studies, from examining many other betting sites not listed here, PTC still leads in this category overall.
B. CUSTOMER SERVICE
--PTC (tops again)
--LINK2BET(very good, but not at the same level as PTC)
--HPI (lags behind the other two with too many alibis and excuses, of why they HAVEN'T, why they DON'T, why they CAN'T, and why they AREN'T). And when you do want to withdraw money from HPI...the key word is S-L-O-W.
...Ian Meyers goes the extra mile in this category. Ian is a real possibility thinker. PTC'S generosity has been a pleasant surprise in some other areas of their business, besides their rebates. Another example of excellent customer service from PTC, has been the promptness in receiving a cheque in the mail. It only took four calendar days to receive a cheque shipped from North Dakota to my residence in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
C. BETTING REPORTS
--PTC (by a country mile)
--LINK2BET (the reports aren't too bad when they are available, but too often the report links don't work, and LINK2BET has been too slow in remedying the report problems in the past)
--HPI (they don't have any online betting reports....poor service in this department from them).
D. BETTING INTERFACE (Ease of use)
--LINK2BET (In my opinion, theirs is the easist to navigate amongst the three companies)
--HPI (second best, but could be better)
--PTC (one of their few weak spots in my opinion. The buttons could be made smaller, so one wouldn't have to use the scroll bar so much. Plus, it would be nice to have more of the betting steps available on one screen like at LINK2BET. Would be nice if PTC provided an automatic update of the balance in one's account, without having to click another button (LINK2BET and HPI are ahead of PTC in this minor area)
E. BETTING OPTIONS
--PTC (the conditional bets option is the obivious topper, plus the 'QUEUED BET' feature is very good). I haven't tried the 'DUTCHING FEATURE". Maybe another PTC customer could comment on that.
--HPI (the queued bet feature could be better)
--LINK2BET (no comment right now,as I haven't tried their BUILD-A-BET feature yet)
F. FEES
--LINK2BET (tied for first. No fees for Canadians on deposits or withdrawals)
--HPI (tied for first. No fees for Canadians on deposit or withdrawals)
--PTC (some minor fees are incurred for funding your account using the
credit card option...i.e. in the area of long distance charges you pay and/or the credit card service charge). You have to phone PTC to make a withdrawal, so you may incur a long distance charge diepending on your long distance plan. The banner headline on the PTC home page is a bit misleading. It may flash 'NO FEES', but I'm sure they are referring only to 'NO FEES FOR EACH BET MADE'). Fees you may incur at PTC are very minor and are easily made up in the generous cash rebates received).
...As for LINK2BET, some of the betting option companies that Americans might use for deposits or withdrawals at LINK2BET may incur fees though. Canadians can fund their account online using a credit card with no service charge.
G. SELECTION OF TRACKS
--PTC (tie for 1st)
--LINK2BET(tie for 1st)
--HPI (the worst)
...No clear cut winner in this department, but suffice to say PTC is my primary betting site because they lead in most of the categories reviewed above. And, PTC has a sufficient number of minor tracks that I like to play. PTC carries some Canadian tracks that LINK2BET doesn't. The genereous cash rebates and only nickel breakage incurred while playing these Canadian tracks are a bonus too. I use LINK2BET sometimes, because they carry a few tracks that PTC doesn't. I'm embarrassed to say, that I do use HPI on the odd occasion. That's because, for example if I want to make a bet let's say on the major California tracks, Hastings Park or the Woodbine/Mohawk harness circuit, these tracks are not available at PTC or LINK2BET.
G. WEBSITE NAVIGATION
--LINK2BET (tops here)
--HPI (next in line)
--PTC (needs improvement)
...PTC in my opinion needs to improve in this area. Similar to my review on the BETTING INTERFACE area, some tweaks could be made to smooth out some of the navigating around the site. Again, reducing the size of some of the buttons could be made so that finding up-to-date odds, results etc. could be found easier by pressing fewer buttons and using the scroll bar less often.
Plus, woudl be nice if the 'MY RATES' and 'PARTNER TRACKS' sections at PTC were updated. Eliminating the tracks in these sections they no longer cover, would save space and maybe even bandwith costs for PTC.
SOME EXTRA NOTES:
...While some PA members and maybe even Ian Meyers might condemn me for criticizing PTC on some of their shortcomings, I thought I'd give an honest review of the three betting companies I use, including both the 'beefs and bouquets' from my point-of-view. I may well have forgetten some other pluses at PTC. Please point them out in this thread. Thanks.
...Motivational speaker Tony Robbins has emphasixed the importance of the acronym C.A.N.I. in his philosophy...that is short for 'CONSTANT AND NEVER-ENDING IMPROVEMENT. I get the impression that Ian Meyers of PTC subscibes to a similar philosophy.
...If you're don't have an account at PTC, you're 'leaving money on the table as they say'. The generous cash rebates at PTC really add up over time and help your bottom line considerably.
...It's astounding how far Ian Meyers' dream of a 'BETTING COMPANY FOR PLAYERS BY PLAYERS' has advanced. Inch-by-inch it's improving...more tracks being added on from time-to-time, the unparalled conditonal betting feature, excellent handicappers contributing their expertise at the site. What could be next? Stay tuned!
T2W
1. PREMIER TURF CLUB
2. LINK2BET
3. HPI
...Here is my review, comparing the above three companies in order of ranking, and with added commentary:
A. BEST REBATES OVERALL
--PTC (by a considerable margin over LINK2BET)
--LINK2BET (on par with Pinnacle on straight bets, at my lower betting level)
--HPI (the worst by far of these three )
...In my studies, from examining many other betting sites not listed here, PTC still leads in this category overall.
B. CUSTOMER SERVICE
--PTC (tops again)
--LINK2BET(very good, but not at the same level as PTC)
--HPI (lags behind the other two with too many alibis and excuses, of why they HAVEN'T, why they DON'T, why they CAN'T, and why they AREN'T). And when you do want to withdraw money from HPI...the key word is S-L-O-W.
...Ian Meyers goes the extra mile in this category. Ian is a real possibility thinker. PTC'S generosity has been a pleasant surprise in some other areas of their business, besides their rebates. Another example of excellent customer service from PTC, has been the promptness in receiving a cheque in the mail. It only took four calendar days to receive a cheque shipped from North Dakota to my residence in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
C. BETTING REPORTS
--PTC (by a country mile)
--LINK2BET (the reports aren't too bad when they are available, but too often the report links don't work, and LINK2BET has been too slow in remedying the report problems in the past)
--HPI (they don't have any online betting reports....poor service in this department from them).
D. BETTING INTERFACE (Ease of use)
--LINK2BET (In my opinion, theirs is the easist to navigate amongst the three companies)
--HPI (second best, but could be better)
--PTC (one of their few weak spots in my opinion. The buttons could be made smaller, so one wouldn't have to use the scroll bar so much. Plus, it would be nice to have more of the betting steps available on one screen like at LINK2BET. Would be nice if PTC provided an automatic update of the balance in one's account, without having to click another button (LINK2BET and HPI are ahead of PTC in this minor area)
E. BETTING OPTIONS
--PTC (the conditional bets option is the obivious topper, plus the 'QUEUED BET' feature is very good). I haven't tried the 'DUTCHING FEATURE". Maybe another PTC customer could comment on that.
--HPI (the queued bet feature could be better)
--LINK2BET (no comment right now,as I haven't tried their BUILD-A-BET feature yet)
F. FEES
--LINK2BET (tied for first. No fees for Canadians on deposits or withdrawals)
--HPI (tied for first. No fees for Canadians on deposit or withdrawals)
--PTC (some minor fees are incurred for funding your account using the
credit card option...i.e. in the area of long distance charges you pay and/or the credit card service charge). You have to phone PTC to make a withdrawal, so you may incur a long distance charge diepending on your long distance plan. The banner headline on the PTC home page is a bit misleading. It may flash 'NO FEES', but I'm sure they are referring only to 'NO FEES FOR EACH BET MADE'). Fees you may incur at PTC are very minor and are easily made up in the generous cash rebates received).
...As for LINK2BET, some of the betting option companies that Americans might use for deposits or withdrawals at LINK2BET may incur fees though. Canadians can fund their account online using a credit card with no service charge.
G. SELECTION OF TRACKS
--PTC (tie for 1st)
--LINK2BET(tie for 1st)
--HPI (the worst)
...No clear cut winner in this department, but suffice to say PTC is my primary betting site because they lead in most of the categories reviewed above. And, PTC has a sufficient number of minor tracks that I like to play. PTC carries some Canadian tracks that LINK2BET doesn't. The genereous cash rebates and only nickel breakage incurred while playing these Canadian tracks are a bonus too. I use LINK2BET sometimes, because they carry a few tracks that PTC doesn't. I'm embarrassed to say, that I do use HPI on the odd occasion. That's because, for example if I want to make a bet let's say on the major California tracks, Hastings Park or the Woodbine/Mohawk harness circuit, these tracks are not available at PTC or LINK2BET.
G. WEBSITE NAVIGATION
--LINK2BET (tops here)
--HPI (next in line)
--PTC (needs improvement)
...PTC in my opinion needs to improve in this area. Similar to my review on the BETTING INTERFACE area, some tweaks could be made to smooth out some of the navigating around the site. Again, reducing the size of some of the buttons could be made so that finding up-to-date odds, results etc. could be found easier by pressing fewer buttons and using the scroll bar less often.
Plus, woudl be nice if the 'MY RATES' and 'PARTNER TRACKS' sections at PTC were updated. Eliminating the tracks in these sections they no longer cover, would save space and maybe even bandwith costs for PTC.
SOME EXTRA NOTES:
...While some PA members and maybe even Ian Meyers might condemn me for criticizing PTC on some of their shortcomings, I thought I'd give an honest review of the three betting companies I use, including both the 'beefs and bouquets' from my point-of-view. I may well have forgetten some other pluses at PTC. Please point them out in this thread. Thanks.
...Motivational speaker Tony Robbins has emphasixed the importance of the acronym C.A.N.I. in his philosophy...that is short for 'CONSTANT AND NEVER-ENDING IMPROVEMENT. I get the impression that Ian Meyers of PTC subscibes to a similar philosophy.
...If you're don't have an account at PTC, you're 'leaving money on the table as they say'. The generous cash rebates at PTC really add up over time and help your bottom line considerably.
...It's astounding how far Ian Meyers' dream of a 'BETTING COMPANY FOR PLAYERS BY PLAYERS' has advanced. Inch-by-inch it's improving...more tracks being added on from time-to-time, the unparalled conditonal betting feature, excellent handicappers contributing their expertise at the site. What could be next? Stay tuned!
T2W