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46zilzal
10-31-2007, 12:47 AM
Visiting this site finds one very interesting thing: none of their updates are more current than 2005. Of course the other outrageous garbage there is enough to keep one scratching their heads for days anyway as the old idea of world domination never worked and never will.
46zilzal
10-31-2007, 12:51 AM
From Wikipedia a parallel finding: 2003, during the period leading up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the PNAC had seven full-time staff members in addition to its board of directors. According to Tom Barry, "The glory days of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) quickly passed but the website is still functioning and was updated as of Feb 8, 2007.
As quoted in Paul Reynolds' BBC News report, David Rothkopf states:
Their [The Project for the New American Century's] signal enterprise was the invasion of Iraq and their failure to produce results is clear. Precisely the opposite has happened. The US use of force has been seen as doing wrong and as inflaming a region that has been less than susceptible to democracy. Their plan has fallen on hard times. There were flaws in the conception and horrendously bad execution. The neo-cons have been undone by their own ideas and the incompetence of the Bush administration."
46zilzal
10-31-2007, 01:03 AM
War drums beating in their Key positions:
Develop and deploy global missile defenses
Control the new 'international commons' of space and 'cyberspace,
develop a new family of nuclear weapons
a permanent allocation of U.S. forces
reconfiguring its nuclear force
establish a network of 'deployment bases' or 'forward operating bases' to increase the reach of current and future forces," citing the need to move beyond Western Europe and Northeast Asia to increased permanent military presence in Southeast Asia and "other regions of East Asia."
Redirecting the U.S. Air Force to move "toward a global first-strike force."
Be a belligerent bully worldwide and spy on your own. Pretty much spelled it out and no one took them seriously.
CONTACT them here:Project for the New American Century
1150 17th Street NW, Suite 510
Washington, DC 20036
Tel: 202-293-4983
Fax: 202-293-4572
Email: project@newamericancentury.org
Website: www.newamericancentury.org
http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_louise_010603_pnac.html
Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer recently wrote, " The fact is no country has been as dominant culturally, economically, technologically, and militarily in the history of the world since the Roman Empire." He is one of the voices or opinion leaders demanding pre-emptive action, calling for the USA to reject its Constitutional heritage proclaiming itself the heir to the Roman Empire and who is part of a small but well
financed policy faction calling themselves neo-conservatives. How does that grab you?
The New American Empire or Pax-Americana, a world order enforced by U.S. power controlled by Cheney and the gang, who make the Mafia and the Roman Empire look like
altar boys. Cheney and Bush's doctrine essentially declares that anyone who gets in the way will suffer the threatened consequences. This strategy of permanent war abroad, will result in a permanent domestic state of emergency which means a permanent state
of siege for all Americans. In this devilish pursuit of world conquest in the name of U.S. interests, Bush is acting under strategic policy that demands the continuous demonstration of a universal American "right" to impose its will on Planet Earth.
PaceAdvantage
10-31-2007, 01:40 AM
There were flaws in the conception and horrendously bad execution. The neo-cons have been undone by their own ideas and the incompetence of the Bush administration."Undone how exactly? They're still calling all the shots in Washington, in case you haven't looked in a while....
Pelosi & Co. are impotent, as usual....
46zilzal
10-31-2007, 01:42 AM
Undone how exactly? They're still calling all the shots in Washington, in case you haven't looked in a while....
I could write out all the reasons why but then even at the speed I type it would take until about 2019 to finish them all.
Am currently reading the very good FIASCO. You should buy a copy and see incompetence personified.
PaceAdvantage
10-31-2007, 01:45 AM
I could write out all the reasons why but then even at the speed I type it would take until about 2019 to finish them all.
Am currently reading the very good FIASCO. You should buy a copy and see incompetence personified.Seriously, how have the neo-cons been undone? We are still in Iraq, and GWB and Cheney are still calling all the shots in Washington.
No perp walks, no impeachments, no nothing. Neo-cons still rule your ass.....
46zilzal
10-31-2007, 01:49 AM
Seriously, how have the neo-cons been undone? We are still in Iraq, and GWB and Cheney are still calling all the shots in Washington.
No perp walks, no impeachments, no nothing. Neo-cons still rule your ass.....
The world continues toward the brink as well.
RULE? They are an annoyance on par with a infected carbuncle.
Seriously, how have the neo-cons been undone? We are still in Iraq, and GWB and Cheney are still calling all the shots in Washington.
No perp walks, no impeachments, no nothing. Neo-cons still rule your ass.....
a sad state of affairs don't you think?
PaceAdvantage
10-31-2007, 01:50 AM
The world continues toward the brink as well.
RULE? They are an annoyance on par with a infected carbuncle.So then you admit that the neo-cons have not been undone as of yet. Thank you.
PaceAdvantage
10-31-2007, 01:51 AM
a sad state of affairs don't you think?It's not what I think...my purpose here was to debunk the myth that the neo-cons have been undone.
46zilzal
10-31-2007, 01:52 AM
So then you admit that the neo-cons have not been undone as of yet. Thank you.
Another who just reads his own answers into statements which contain nothing of the sort.
PaceAdvantage
10-31-2007, 01:54 AM
Another who just reads his own answers into statements which contain nothing of the sort.Well, if you don't want to admit that, it's fine. The evidence is overwhelming. I don't need your confession to tell me what's going on right in front of my face.
46zilzal
10-31-2007, 02:02 AM
NY Times review of FIASCO:
President George W. Bush’s decision to invade Iraq in 2003 ultimately may come to be seen as one of the most profligate actions in the history of American foreign policy,” Mr. Ricks writes. “The consequences of his choice won’t be clear for decades, but it already is abundantly apparent in mid-2006 that the U.S. government went to war in Iraq with scant solid international support and on the basis of incorrect information — about weapons of mass destruction and a supposed nexus between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda’s terrorism — and then occupied the country negligently. Thousands of U.S. troops and an untold number of Iraqis have died. Hundreds of billions of dollars have been spent, many of them squandered."
Now the idiot wants to expand his grasp and his imcompetence.
From Harvard Crimson review:
Ricks shows that the real crime was that the Bush White House didn’t plan to win the conflict they decided to start.
The interviews with top generals and Pentagon officials are stunning, and reveal a war that, horrifyingly, had literally no end-goal, let alone a strategy for achieving that goal. To this day, the war has no end-goal, and therefore can have no “end” in sight.
The on-the-ground tales of torture and violence are terrifying, but even more terrifying is Ricks’ conclusion that the Bush White House wasn’t listening to generals who told them a war would need far more troops than the number Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld ended up sending to Iraq.
or http://www.pritzkermilitarylibrary.org/events/2006-10-05-thomasRicks.jsp
They must be in Egypt becasue they are in da-nile!
PA - they never stray from the party linem, do they?
Now, the failed dem congress is cutting back to 4 days a week.
They figure they not get done us as much in 4 days as they don't get done in 5 days!
Let's hear it for the dems......:lol::lol::lol:
They must be in Egypt becasue they are in da-nile!
PA - they never stray from the party linem, do they?
Now, the failed dem congress is cutting back to 4 days a week.
They figure they not get done us as much in 4 days as they don't get done in 5 days!
Let's hear it for the dems......:lol::lol::lol:
Tom, your bias is obstructing your vision. Remember just a few days back when you were complaining about immigration. Open your eyes Tom, this is not a dem problem, this is an American problem. You are so intent on blaming the dems that you fail to address the issue.
No, the topic here has been the dems. They are delusional about Iraq and since they run Congress, it's their problem that they do nothing and are cutting back. Many things are the fault of both parties. Not this.
HAND
46zilzal
10-31-2007, 11:33 AM
No, the topic here has been the dems. They are delusional about Iraq and since they run Congress, it's their problem that they do nothing and are cutting back.
Delusional about a botched adventure from the outset? Based upon nothing but false statements and continued based upon nothing but wishful thinking??? It was the asses behind this group who instigated this stupid and unnecessary war in the first place.
You owe yourself a trip to the library to read State of Denial (in the words of many of the soldiers who served in Iraq and whose reports were simply not followed since they gave the truth, not the message the rutabaga and his minions wanted to hear) and Rick's Fiasco (an unvarnished report on what a complete and utter mess the management of this so-called War has evolved into).
Oh, but then again, like the rutabaga you go on "gut reaction" rather than the facts.
PaceAdvantage
10-31-2007, 11:05 PM
Unvarnished....:lol:
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