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skate
10-24-2007, 04:32 PM
very good series, seems to me, with Bost the fav. in game one by 1 1/2 @ -$1.20. over 8.5.

i hope the weather stays good.

njcurveball
10-24-2007, 05:02 PM
Tough break for the Rockies! Take the hottest team in baseball and make them sit a week and practice in the cold.

Then send them cross country to face a hot team with rabid fans.

Even Giuliani is jumping on that band wagon now!

skate
10-25-2007, 01:59 PM
i follow that.

but now, due to the big score, the rocks may rock against "the Shill".

shilling (my opinion) is the best and id like to see him Win, just NOT tonite.

njcurveball
10-25-2007, 02:04 PM
If I bet with my heart, I say the Rockies come back.

But using my brain as someone who knows baseball, this series was decided by whoever made the schedule to allow a team to get 2 days rest and play at home while another had to wait 8 days for their next game.

Boston in four straight, another blowout tonight, and band wagons loading up every few minutes. :mad:

I bet a lot of longshots and often see the favorite win. I don't have to like it, but it is going to happen whether I like it or not. :mad:

nomadpat
10-25-2007, 02:37 PM
Well the series didn't start last night that's for sure ;)

Talk a bad game for the Rockies, we looked like Alw horses running against G1 company. :bang: I thought it was a little strange how the infield played up vs. Ramirez in the first (figured they would walk him). I'd like to say they will bounce back, but I'm hard-pressed to find any positives from last night to build on.

njcurveball
10-25-2007, 03:08 PM
And did you notice how they played Big Papi? Did they get the memo he is a pull hitter with no speed?

I was thinking Manager of the Year for Hurdle, so either aliens have replaced him or he has not seen an American League team, even the one his guys played in June!

Best call of the night was Buck saying a pitch was RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. Then they showed the box and McCarver says, just hit the outside corner!

AND this is the guy doing play by play for the World Series! No wonder kids turn off the TV and go play their video games! :bang:

skate
10-25-2007, 04:20 PM
screw the" heart" when it comes to betting.


i'll say that, because they (beans) scored so many last nite, the rocks will "not sink" tonite.:cool:

njcurveball
10-25-2007, 05:06 PM
screw the" heart" when it comes to betting.


i'll say that, because they (beans) scored so many last nite, the rocks will "not sink" tonite.:cool:

WOW! I hate the sox and would not even take 2-1 on the Rockies tonight!

Looks like another blow out in the winds. :mad:

Suff
10-25-2007, 05:45 PM
But it sure seemed as if it had a lot more to do with (A) the Christy Mathewson of his generation (aka Josh Beckett (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6403)) and (B) the hottest lineup ever to march to home plate in the annals of 103 Octobers.



Wait. Did we just say "the hottest lineup ever to march to home plate in the annals of 103 Octobers??


Yep. We sure did. Which means ... hotter than the '27 Yankees. Hotter than the '36 Yankees. Hotter than "The Big Red Machine." Hotter even than the 2004 Red Sox


Seriously. We can say that because this makes three straight postseason games now that these Red Sox have scored in double figures: 12 runs in Game 6 against Cleveland, 11 more runs in Game 7 against Cleveland, and another 13 runs in Game 1 of the World Series.


So let's see now. How many other teams have ever rolled up more than 10 runs in three consecutive postseason games? That would be ... exactly ... zero.


And what those Red Sox thumpers did Wednesday -- against a team that was 21-1 over the last five weeks, and against a pitching staff that came into this World Series with a 2.08 postseason ERA -- was flat-out ridiculous. For instance:


• The all-time World Series record for extra-base hits in a game was nine -- set 82 years ago by the 1925 Pirates (in a game started by Walter Johnson). The Red Sox not only tied that record. They'd tied it with two outs in the fifth inning.


• The most runs ever scored in Game 1 of any of the previous 102 World Series was 12. The Red Sox racked up 13 before they'd even made their 15th out.


• And no team had ever staged a two-out rally in which it went an entire turn through its lineup -- all nine hitters -- with every one of them reaching base in any inning of the previous 597 World Series games ever played. But the Red Sox did that in the fifth inning of this game (on five hits and four walks).

njcurveball
10-25-2007, 07:53 PM
When was the last time a team traveled 3,000 miles after an 8 day layoff to play in a stadium with a rabid crowd?

I hear the lions did pretty well at the old coliseum. :D

Enjoy your series and enjoy your parade. :ThmbUp:

Pace Cap'n
10-25-2007, 08:23 PM
Any you guys watch the NL playoffs?

njcurveball
10-25-2007, 08:26 PM
I watched every game my friend. Rockies off an 8 day layoff in Fenway. Terrible place to be for them.

Down 2-0 and flying back in about 3 hours.

It doesn't make me happy! :mad:

skate
10-26-2007, 04:59 PM
wait till boston trys to find enough oxygen.


i hear "not the fat lady", not yet.:cool:

PaceAdvantage
10-26-2007, 10:13 PM
I still can't get over the scene of Manny after he completed the back-to-back-to-back home run stint against the Indians. There he is, with his arms outstretched to the heavens, admiring his home run as it sails over the fence. I mean, the guy was really, really putting on a show.....and this is Manny we're talking about, so that's to be expected, but this one was really IN YOUR FACE.

The sad part was, the BoSox were STILL LOSING 7-3 at that point! LOL

That's Manny being Manny I suppose.....

Nets
10-26-2007, 11:05 PM
If I bet with my heart, I say the Rockies come back.

But using my brain as someone who knows baseball, this series was decided by whoever made the schedule to allow a team to get 2 days rest and play at home while another had to wait 8 days for their next game.

Boston in four straight, another blowout tonight, and band wagons loading up every few minutes. :mad:

I bet a lot of longshots and often see the favorite win. I don't have to like it, but it is going to happen whether I like it or not. :mad:

NJC,

Just wondering how anyone can know in advance that one series will go only 4 games while another goes the full 7. Don't see how you can schedule something in advance without knowing how many games each series will take.
As for Boston hosting the first two, wasn't that because the AL won the All Star game? Unfair? - Sure, but so is horse racing! ;)

Gary

njcurveball
10-26-2007, 11:37 PM
NJC,

Just wondering how anyone can know in advance that one series will go only 4 games while another goes the full 7. Don't see how you can schedule something in advance without knowing how many games each series will take.
As for Boston hosting the first two, wasn't that because the AL won the All Star game? Unfair? - Sure, but so is horse racing! ;)

Gary

They could have scheduled one off day and started on Tuesday. Other than that, I don't know.

My comment was based on what happened. Like a horse getting loose on the lead and then winning in a fast time.

Not a planning thing.

Although I am thinking I missed your point?

Nets
10-26-2007, 11:52 PM
They could have scheduled one off day and started on Tuesday. Other than that, I don't know.

My comment was based on what happened. Like a horse getting loose on the lead and then winning in a fast time.

Not a planning thing.

Although I am thinking I missed your point?

NJC,

No, you haven't missed my point. Not sure that there is a fair way to work this when two series end so differently time-wise. In the end, TV controls scheduling with little regard for fairness. I am an Indians fan, and wish it were my team getting this advantage. At least it's not like the NBA playoff scheduling or we wouldn't have a Series winner until Christmas!

I enjoy your posts here and elsewhere NJC. Hope the Breeder's Cup is being kind to you.

Gary

njcurveball
10-27-2007, 12:03 AM
NJC,

. I am an Indians fan, and wish it were my team getting this advantage.

Thanks for the kind words! I think George Mitchell DEFINITELY did his best to screw the Indians with the Paul Byrd report.

As most things with the Red Sox, it just does not get any play on the National Scene.

Arod yells at a pop-up and it makes front page of the Sports Section all over the country. Manny sticks his hands up and shows up the opposing team, spitting on the game of baseball and no one cares.

I have been pitching since I was 7 and I told my friends when I saw that, next time up he has to have one or two balls purposely aimed inside. :mad:


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2007/10/23/2007-10-23_george_mitchell_denies_paul_byrd_leak_ab-1.html?ref=rss

CLEVELAND - Baseball investigator George Mitchell, also a director of the AL champion Boston Red Sox, denied yesterday providing information for a story that Cleveland Indians pitcher Paul Byrd used human growth hormone.

DanG
10-27-2007, 12:17 AM
I recently started going to the batting cages again for some exercise. Being a right handed hitter, I just can’t get over how perfect Manny’s swing is.

The guy gets quite a bit of flack (some of which is deserved), but his swing is one of the 10 best swings in baseball history!

BTW: It shows how subjective all observations are. Manny posing at home plate doesn’t bother me for some reason. It doesn’t seem malicious and / or personal to me. Now the same gesture from Bonds and I’m looking for the nearest heavy object to throw…I know its just me...Go figure?

harnesslover
10-27-2007, 12:58 AM
Thanks for the kind words! I think George Mitchell DEFINITELY did his best to screw the Indians with the Paul Byrd report.

As most things with the Red Sox, it just does not get any play on the National Scene.


2nd highest rated playoffs in 20 years.. Wonder if its the Indians they are coming to watch?

PaceAdvantage
10-27-2007, 03:19 AM
It doesn’t seem malicious and / or personal to me.I didn't see it as malicious or personal either, just plain stupid and selfish, considering his team, despite his home run, was STILL DOWN by four runs!!!

DanG
10-27-2007, 09:11 AM
I didn't see it as malicious or personal either, just plain stupid and selfish, considering his team, despite his home run, was STILL DOWN by four runs!!!
All true, but the man is on his own planet as far as I can tell. I judge him as I would a 4yo child in many ways.

harnesslover
10-27-2007, 01:50 PM
I recently started going to the batting cages again for some exercise. Being a right handed hitter, I just can’t get over how perfect Manny’s swing is.

The guy gets quite a bit of flack (some of which is deserved), but his swing is one of the 10 best swings in baseball history!

BTW: It shows how subjective all observations are. Manny posing at home plate doesn’t bother me for some reason. It doesn’t seem malicious and / or personal to me. Now the same gesture from Bonds and I’m looking for the nearest heavy object to throw…I know its just me...Go figure?

I agree. I don't think he really has any idea what is going on at certain times. He knows he just hit a homerun, he doesn't think about the score, the inning, the team he's playing, even the city he's playing in.

I think it's an immediate "WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I hit a homerun"

nomadpat
10-27-2007, 10:13 PM
Hey Nets,

I wonder how much discussion there has been about the 3rd base coach of the Indians. I was in disbelief that he held Lofton at 3rd. The worst that happens is that he gets thrown out at the plate and they have a runner at second. If Lofton scores, that game is tied, CLE has momentum. If it was a slow runner I could understand, but it was Lofton.