Expose on Blackwater

[46zilzal]

Fellow who wrote this was interviewed on PBS over the weekend. Interesting.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/archives/

[Show Me the Wire]

Interesting if like opinion pieces masquerading as facts. No credibility there.

[46zilzal]

References never work if one is too lazy even to read them.

http://www.counterpunch.org/smith09192007.html
private contractor companies are now hiring the most notorious global thugs, including Chilean commandos who served under General Augusto Pinochet and white apartheid-era South African Special Forces.

[46zilzal]

interview with the author.
http://www.traprockpeace.org/edrussell/JeremyScahill09April07_AImedia.mp3

[toetoe]

I heard an interview two or three months ago (?) and I meant to post something. I do recall hearing an alleged eyewitness saying that a GI was asking Blackwatermen, "What do I do, Sir ?" when he had someone, presumably an Iraqi, at gunpoint in a very tense situation. At that point, I needed to hear no more. I wanted them OOT.

[robert99]

ERIK PRINCE: "I'm an American working for America. Anything we do is to support U.S. Policy. You know the definition of a mercenary is a professional soldier that works in the pay of a foreign army. I'm an American working for America...."

That bit amused me when you get British security companies telling how Blackwater mercenaries ambushed, attacked and ran off the road security vehicles carrying American military personnel left for dead who preferred to use another company.

[Tom]

Brittish?
Aren't they the ones who ran home?

[46zilzal]

"Jeremy Scahill's exposé of the Blackwater mercenary firm forcefully demonstrates the grave dangers of outsourcing the government's monopoly on the use of force."

- Joseph Wilson, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq

"If the Republicans lose in 2008, they will leave office armed and dangerous. Blackwater is the utterly gripping and explosive story of how the Bush Administration has spent hundreds of millions of public dollars building a parallel corporate army, an army so loyal to far right causes it constitutes nothing less than a Republican Guard. The most important and chilling book about the death throes of U.S. democracy you will read in years and a triumph of investigative reporting."

- Naomi Klein, author, No Logo and The Shock Doctrine

"Jeremy Scahill skillfully chronicles the birth of America's frightening Praetorian Guard, one that has been unleashed - 25,000-strong - in Iraq. These hired guns, with their black uniforms and automatic weapons, appeared on the streets of New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina. They operate, at home and abroad, beyond the bounds of legal constraints and are controlled by secretive puppet masters, such as Erik Prince, who have close ties to the radical Christian Right. Should our nation enter a period of instability following another terrorist attack on American soil, an economic collapse or a series of environmental disasters the tyranny groups such as Blackwater impose on others could become the tyranny they impose on us. The rise of this unchecked mercenary force, as Scahill understands, could presage the final stage in the collapse of American democracy.

Chris Hedges.

"Thanks to Jeremy Scahill and other reporters of conscience and courage, "independent journalist" is not an oxymoron. Scahill's thirst for truth and justice is not far below the surface as he trains his investigative sights on war profiteers like Blackwater, who stop at nothing to turn a fast buck. Katy Helvenston, mother of one of the four Blackwater contractors killed in Fallujah, calls their employers 'the whores of war.' Hats off to Scahill for showing us why she is right."

- Ray McGovern, 27-year Veteran CIA Analyst and Co-founder, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)

[Show Me the Wire]

"Jeremy Scahill's exposé of the Blackwater mercenary firm forcefully demonstrates the grave dangers of outsourcing the government's monopoly on the use of force."

- Joseph Wilson, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq



Tell that to the terrorists and the regimes that outsource their use of force to the terrorist groups, like Hezbolah, AQ,etc.

Yes, very inherently dangerous.

As I said the reporter has no credibility as he shows no critical thinking skills in an opinion piece.

[46zilzal]

Here is an example of one of the recent casualties. Fight in urban areas, where regular people live and collateral damage has to occur.
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/071021/481/57f96d513cda4a0aa45761df58fc12e0

[46zilzal]

The rest of the world are writing about them too.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/04/02/1080544691675.html
http://www.barryyeoman.com/articles/needanarmy.html
http://www.alternet.org/story/18193/
http://www.thestar.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=401463
http://news.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=1013202004
[url]http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_22/b3885116.htm
or,[url]http://www.uslaboragainstwar.org/article.php?id=4727
As little known as these companies are to the general public, they are only too familiar in Washington, where they have deployed a different kind of mercenary force -- phalanxes of lobbyists -- along with the ammunition of modern political warfare, campaign contributions. And they have found eager friends, particularly among Republican leaders in and out of Congress.

"The move into the political game tends to happen for three reasons," Singer says. "One, this business is growing. Second, companies that are in other industries move into the sector, bringing influence and lobbyists to bear." Examples include Halliburton and, in the case of private security firms and other companies that provide combat-or iintelligence-oriented services, firms like CACI and Titan. Finally, Singer says, "A lot of firms have picked up lobbyists as they've gained a public profile."

[Show Me the Wire]

Here is an example of one of the recent casualties. Fight in urban areas, where regular people live and collateral damage has to occur.
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/071021/481/57f96d513cda4a0aa45761df58fc12e0


I maybe mistaken, but I believe terrorists like Hezbolah, etc. use civilians, in urban areas, as human shields and actually target civilian populations with deadly weapons.

[46zilzal]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20071001/blackwater-iraq/
In more than 80 percent of the incidents, called "escalation of force," Blackwater's guards fired the first shots even though the company's contract with the State Department calls for it to use defensive force only, it said.

"In the vast majority of instances in which Blackwater fired shots, Blackwater is firing from a moving vehicle and does not remain at the scene to determine if the shots resulted in casualties," according to the report.

The staff report says Blackwater has made huge sums of money despite its questionable performance in Iraq, where Blackwater guards provide protective services for U.S. diplomatic personnel.

Blackwater has earned more than $1 billion from federal contracts since 2001, when it had less than $1 million in government work. Overall, the State Department paid
Blackwater more than $832 million between 2004 and 2006 for security work, according to the report.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqM4tKPDlR8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9yHRjOJ988

[Show Me the Wire]

Sometimes the best defense is a good offense. Does defense mean to you that you have to be physically injured or killed before the right of defense takes place or does it mean it is permissible to act first if you feel imminent harm will happen to you?

[46zilzal]

Tax troubles too.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/23/congress.blackwater/

Book reviews of Scahill's work.
http://communities.canada.com/theprovince/blogs/readthis/pages/blackwater-the-rise-of-the-world-s-most-powerful-mercenary-army.aspx
http://pgcbooks.ca/sellsheets/blackwater.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6849

or taped evidence of their recent ambush.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/09/22/iraq-blackwater.html
Interior Ministry spokesman Maj.-Gen. Abdul-Karim Khalaf said Iraqi authorities had completed an investigation into the Sept. 16 shooting in Nisoor Square in western Baghdad and concluded that Blackwater guards were responsible for the deaths.

He told the Associated Press that the conclusion was based on witness statements as well as videotape shot by cameras at the nearby headquarters of the national police command. He said eight people were killed at the scene and three of the 15 wounded died in hospitals.

[bigmack]

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[Tom]

Here's my take on it.....in a war zone, whatever the hell it takes.
We are there because the Iraqi were historically weak, irresponsible people.
We pulled thier arses out a fire by getting rid of SH. They are not responsible enough to run their own country, then they get what we decide is fair for us. They don't like it, tough titty said the kitty. When they get off their arses and stand up to defend thier own land, and it has been way too long as it is, then the contract secirty can leave. Until they take care of thier own country, we call the shots and shot whomever the hell we think we need to.
We freakin' WON the war....it is OUR CALL!

Lock N load, boys. Bang Bang!

[hcap]

Here's my take on it.....in a war zone, whatever the hell it takes.
We are there because the Iraqi were historically weak, irresponsible people.
We pulled thier arses out a fire by getting rid of SH. They are not responsible enough to run their own country, then they get what we decide is fair for us. They don't like it, tough titty said the kitty. When they get off their arses and stand up to defend thier own land, and it has been way too long as it is, then the contract secirty can leave. Until they take care of thier own country, we call the shots and shot whomever the hell we think we need to.
We freakin' WON the war....it is OUR CALL!

Lock N load, boys. Bang Bang!This is the dumbest crock of shit even for you. Out of 23,000 posts-this rates as among your top 10 assinines!

Lock N Load your ass over there and save us the trouble of taking you out with the garbage. Maybe you can POST them to death :lol:

[PaceAdvantage]

This is the dumbest crock of shit even for you. Out of 23,000 posts-this rates as among your top 10 assinines! Wow...seems Tom touched a nerve....maybe he's onto something. I posted something similar not too long ago....

And if you ever go personal like that again, you're outta here. Unless of course you want to post a picture of yourself.....nah....I didn't think so....typical wuss.

[hcap]

Wow...seems Tom touched a nerve....maybe he's onto something. I posted something similar not too long ago....

And if you ever go personal like that again, you're outta here. Unless of course you want to post a picture of yourself.....nah....I didn't think so....typical wuss.Tom has said much worse. But you ignore it. What exactly is personal about what I said? You edited out the word fat. Is that too personal?

Gee what would Hill Street say?Tom sez:
We are there because the Iraqi were historically weak, irresponsible people.
We pulled thier arses out a fire by getting rid of SH. They are not responsible enough to run their own country, then they get what we decide is fair for us. They don't like it, tough titty said the kitty.
The Iraqis are too weak after we turn their country into a killing zone?
Yeah you said the same. I guess you and Tom suffer from the same inept long term memory.

[Tom]

I feel so, so fresh today.......:lol::lol::lol:

[hcap]

Stupid lazy ungrateful Iraqis. You feel fresh?

"We invaded your country under knowingly false pretenses, fixing the intelligence around the policy, because our leaders, who were in possession of vast amounts of intelligence that undermined or refuted their stated casus belli, couldn't reveal their true, long-held intentions. ('I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil,' Alan Greenspan says.) We destroyed your infrastructure, we destroyed your society, we destroyed your history, we enthroned extremist militias to rule over you, we tortured your sons and fathers in the same hellhole that Saddam used, we killed a million of your people and drove millions more from their homes. And we intend to stay here for as long as we like, in the vast 'enduring bases' we are building on your land. Now if you don't accept this, if you keep shooting at us and trying to make us leave, then we will go on bombing your families in their homes, we will go on killing your women and children, until you stop."
...Chris Floyd

[PaceAdvantage]

The Iraqis are too weak after we turn their country into a killing zone?
Yeah you said the same.No, I stated that they were too weak to act BEFORE we ever stepped foot into their country. You know, that period of time when Saddam was still throwing his fellow citizens into mass graves.

I believe this is the period of time Tom is talking about as well. They had their chance and they did nothing. Once again, the US is left to do the world's dirty work.....

Get your head out of your keyboard for a minute and read the screen before you reply....you might actually end up getting the gist of a post for a change....

[PaceAdvantage]

Tom has said much worse. But you ignore it. What exactly is personal about what I said?Don't act dumb....we all know you have the answers to everything. Until you post a picture of yourself, you don't get to insult others who have.....

[hcap]

No, I stated that they were too weak to act BEFORE we ever stepped foot into their country. You know, that period of time when Saddam was still throwing his fellow citizens into mass graves.

I believe this is the period of time Tom is talking about as well. They had their chance and they did nothing. Once again, the US is left to do the world's dirty work.....

Get your head out of your keyboard for a minute and read the screen before you reply....you might actually end up getting the gist of a post for a change....What about Hitler, Stalin and Mao? Were the people there also to "weak"? What about any dictator that controls the police and the military and murders his own? Nonsense.

If we follow your logic you would blame the 6 million Jews exterminated during WWII for being too weak.

[hcap]

Don't act dumb....we all know you have the answers to everything. Until you post a picture of yourself, you don't get to insult others who have.....Why is saying fat an insult? Hundreds of posts from all sides have said MUCH MUCH worse. Including calling people traitors, "slime" and piece of shit. Indeed many of those posts come from Tom. Along with calls for genocide and nuking whoever he deems inhuman. And whenever anyone objects you come to his defense. I'm glad you allow free speech. But it appears you have favorites.

Can I call someone stupid without posting my IQ?
Can anyone? Which IQ test(s) are accepted as official?
You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this forum to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of any law. Defamatory is calling someone a traitor. IMHO many times the sin of "fat ass".

[hcap]

This is ok? Because we know both Tom and MM are overweight? Or that MM is not a member of this board? Tom talking about MM...

Tom from "No cure for the SICKO"= post # 33Stick his fat ass in bed with Castro.
Chavez can tuck them both in at night.

[ddog]

No, I stated that they were too weak to act BEFORE we ever stepped foot into their country. You know, that period of time when Saddam was still throwing his fellow citizens into mass graves.

I believe this is the period of time Tom is talking about as well. They had their chance and they did nothing. Once again, the US is left to do the world's dirty work.....

Get your head out of your keyboard for a minute and read the screen before you reply....you might actually end up getting the gist of a post for a change....

otherworldly......

Weak -- must have killed off all the strong ones in the war with Iran
wait , how long did that last - what were the casulity figures on that one?

Weak -- how about urging them to rise and overthrow poor ol Saddam after GW1 only to stand off and watch the ones who tried get gunned down because we were too weak to give them air cover, yes even that.

Oh and who all do you think was getting tossed into those mass graves, I expect a few of them were not weak and maybe were thought to be a threat to the regime.


I don't understand why you think a small group, relative to the overall population of a country, can't "control" a country?

[Tom]

Sadaam did it.

[Greyfox]

Don't act dumb....we all know you have the answers to everything. Until you post a picture of yourself, you don't get to insult others who have.....

Good one P.A. Thanks Tom. :lol:

[Greyfox]

This is the dumbest crock of shit even for you. Out of 23,000 posts-this rates as among your top 10 assinines!

Lock N Load your ass over there and save us the trouble of taking you out with the garbage. Maybe you can POST them to death :lol:

You seem to be a fairly well informed and bright poster, whether I agree with your or not.
I don't understand though hcap why you let your emotionality over rule your rationality at times and get in to name calling? The latter detracts from the impact of your previously well thought out posts. Effectively, it makes you look as though you've regressed or lost it in an argument or at the very least are extremely bitter.

[hcap]

The same mentality that lets bush the emperor get away with his wondrous new suit of empty clothes, affects posters who give Tom a pass on his over the top hateful tirades.

I never suggested ANYONE be censored in any way. Yet when I object to his calls for genocide, or use STFU I am warned about crossing the line. Emotional? Yep. But not irrational. When we invade, bomb and screw up the lives of millions of Iraqis, and then blame the victims-for being "weak", your' damn right I am emotional.

[46zilzal]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/01/washington/01cnd-blackwater.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
The report, based largely on internal Blackwater e-mail messages and State Department documents, depicts the security contractor as being staffed with reckless, shoot-first guards who were not always sober and did not always stop to see who or what was hit by their bullets.

In one incident, the State Department and Blackwater agreed to pay $15,000 to the family of a man killed by “a drunken Blackwater contractor,” the report said. As a State
Department official wrote, “We would like to help them resolve this so we can continue with our protective mission.”

[PaceAdvantage]

Why is saying fat an insult? Hundreds of posts from all sides have said MUCH MUCH worse. Including calling people traitors, "slime" and piece of shit. Indeed many of those posts come from Tom.Please, post a link to the last time one member of this board called another member of this board a traitor....(I'll be waiting)

If you don't understand why your comments towards Tom are much more personal in nature than him half-jokingly calling for some sort of genocide (as you interpret it) against some faceless country far away, then I'm afraid there is no help for you as far as common decency during one-on-one public discourse is concerned.

[Tom]

It's not one on one. I have him on IGGY.
He is carrying on a argument with someone who doesn't even know what he is posting.

Kind of ironic.
I see only what others quote and still he continues to address me.

I feel like Rush with half my brain tied behind my back! :lol:

Under no circumstances could hcap ever insult me. Even I acknowledged his exitstence. :lol::lol::lol:

[toetoe]

I hereby respectfully call for a drawdown of the name-spewing. (:Peace sign.)

Now, PA, I'm afraid you have been a bit personal in your reactions to hcap. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt in this instance. :)

The other mindblower I have for you is that hcap, in his slightly caustic way, makes a good point --- Tom's post is just silly. Tom distilled his thoughts into a pithy statement that I analogize to a family hiring a permanent babysitter to tend a child the family have just "liberated" from irresponsible parents ... and the worse the kids act, the greater the justification we claim for the continued employment of the "nanny." Now, some cogent, quasi-convincing argument can be made for our (their ?) presence in Iraq, just not Tom's.

[Tom]

I disagree ( surprised?:p)
If Iraq doesn't like the way things are, they should get off their fat arses and start acting like a nation instead of a wining baby with poop in his diapers.
I'm all for pulling out ASAP - but the Iraqi's seem reluctant to man up.

[kenwoodallpromos]

Tom's approval rating is more than yours, Bush's and Pelosi's put together!
Censor, of course not! If you get censored or booted, than I will have to step up and put out the sensible arguments on your side. But since you are doing what you do it is easier just to jump on the bandwagon and jab at your posts!!LOL!!

[46zilzal]

All this baloney does not obfuscate the malarkey that Blackwater is a dangerous direction to go

[Secretariat]

No, I stated that they were too weak to act BEFORE we ever stepped foot into their country. You know, that period of time when Saddam was still throwing his fellow citizens into mass graves.

Youre kind of missing something here. Didn't we encourage the Shite to rebel against Saddam during Bush I? And they did and we didn't intervene. That is not too weak to act. Didn't we also encourage the pro-democracy Chinese to rise up against their government as they did at Tiannemen Square while we sat back and did nothing? A lot of those mass graves were due to the Shite uprising we encouraged that was considered an insurrection by the Hussein government.


I believe this is the period of time Tom is talking about as well. They had their chance and they did nothing. Once again, the US is left to do the world's dirty work.....

The US helped foster the conditions that led to this "dirty work" in the first place. Until you recognize this you'll always be fighting in the MidEast, and in other foreign entanglements that are best handled by those nations in their region. And spending billions of dollars in the process. 1.2 billion to train Iraqi police for example, and none of it is accountable...and they call themselves conservatives? Whew!

As to Blackwater, they are simply unaccountable mercenaries making a killing - literally and finacially. Period. They represent increased costs to the taxpayer, and no accountability as soldiers.

[robert99]

As to Blackwater, they are simply unaccountable mercenaries making a killing - literally and finacially. Period. They represent increased costs to the taxpayer, and no accountability as soldiers.

Amazingly unaccountable - they have complete legal immunity for any crimes committed in Iraq, including murder. Condo does not know if they are even able to put them on trial in USA. Meanwhile they have fixed themselves up with a $1B worth of contracts that the Democrats will have to put up your taxes to pay them off.

[Tom]

No biggie.
the dems will raisne taxes no matter what.
They are too stupid to understand the folly of tax hikes. Math not taugh in thier "feel good", outcome-based schools.
At least this way, we get to decide what the money goes to.
If the dems do indeed win it all in 2008, there is no better strategy than to leave them a bankrupt, spent country to run! :lol::lol::lol:

Repubs will always fix it right up again.

[kenwoodallpromos]

I hear Blackwater was going to put in a training camp by Portrero, and there was a border fence going in in the area, so Code Pink and other pinkos started the Ca fires.

[hcap]

Tom sez...
we are there because the Iraqi were historically weak, irresponsible people. We freakin' WON the war....it is OUR CALL!
Lock N load, boys. Bang Bang!

If Iraq doesn't like the way things are, they should get off their fat arses and start acting like a nation instead of a wining baby with poop in his diapers.
You just won the unconditional IMPERSONAL FAT ARSE PRIZE® Congratulations! Where you should pin it, pray tell?

Those fat arse weak and irresponsible Iraqis are way far across the sea. PA says faceless country far away,Not like those of us that sit comfortably typing away playing keyboard commando. Playing impersonal war video games. The always fashionable Lock N load Bang Bang!

Your use "Lock N Load" and giggle like an adolescent cowboy while REAL innocent civilians are being killed and maimed and 2 million are refugees. After we invaded and destroyed their lives. Pathetic. Then you have the unmitigated gall to call them weak, lazy, and oh so irresponsible.

But hey, maybe you should be more careful about saying fat arses.
If you spell ass correctly your in deep sh*t

[kenwoodallpromos]

But hey, maybe you should be more careful about saying fat arses.
If you spell ass correctly your in deep sh*t
"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Arse is an English term referring to the buttocks, first recorded circa 1400 (in arce-hoole) and is commonly used in English speaking countries such as the United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand, parts of Canada and former parts of the British Empire. In the United States and parts of Canada the variant form ass is used."

[PaceAdvantage]

Tom sez...You just won the unconditional IMPERSONAL FAT ARSE PRIZE® Congratulations! Where you should pin it, pray tell?

Those fat arse weak and irresponsible Iraqis are way far across the sea. PA says Not like those of us that sit comfortably typing away playing keyboard commando. Playing impersonal war video games. The always fashionable Lock N load Bang Bang!

Your use "Lock N Load" and giggle like an adolescent cowboy while REAL innocent civilians are being killed and maimed and 2 million are refugees. After we invaded and destroyed their lives. Pathetic. Then you have the unmitigated gall to call them weak, lazy, and oh so irresponsible.

But hey, maybe you should be more careful about saying fat arses.
If you spell ass correctly your in deep sh*t

If you don't like the way I moderate, you are free to stop posting anytime you wish.

[Tom]

Hey Hcap...why don't YOU go over there and help them out?
I'll glady pay for your ticket!

Maybe if people like YOU had the passion when Sadaam was committing genocide they would have been better off.

Here's a clue for you - it was never about the Iraqi's and it still isn't.

Bang Bang!

I hope this guy isn't a serial killer or something! :lol::lol:

[Secretariat]

No biggie.
the dems will raisne taxes no matter what.
They are too stupid to understand the folly of tax hikes. Math not taugh in thier "feel good", outcome-based schools.
At least this way, we get to decide what the money goes to.
If the dems do indeed win it all in 2008, there is no better strategy than to leave them a bankrupt, spent country to run!

Repubs will always fix it right up again.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[hcap]

Hey Hcap...why don't YOU go over there and help them out?
I'll glady pay for your ticket!

Maybe if people like YOU had the passion when Sadaam was committing genocide they would have been better off.

Here's a clue for you - it was never about the Iraqi's and it still isn't.

Bang Bang!

I hope this guy isn't a serial killer or something! :lol::lol:

As Powell said "you broke it you own it" The last 4 1/2 years is courtesy of people like you in power. You screw up royally after professing your intentions to spread democracy ( by bombs and bullets ), and helping out the Iraqis. Don't lie and tell me helping the Iraqi was not one of the main reasons you and bush launched this war. Now that the war is a major quagmire, you further compound your mendacity by telling us that it's the Iraqis fault for being lazy, irresponsible, weak and BTW all have fat arses. Purple fingers be damned!

As I said originally LockNLoad your fat arse over there and stop the bullshit.

Even tho' I dissagree with the military men on this board usually 100%-LS, delayjf among others, I respect them.

You on the other hand are a collection of juvenile fantasies expressed endlessly by 23,000+bad and redundant posts.

Your IMPERSONAL FAT ARSE PRIZE® is ready.

http://www.takimag.com/images/gallery/mission_med.jpg

[46zilzal]

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-blackwater27oct27,1,5303052.story?coll=la-news-a_section&ctrack=1&cset=true

[46zilzal]

Just like most cops, out of control, these guys are going to get a pass.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/29/blackwater.immunity/index.html

[PaceAdvantage]

Hcap,

I don't ask for much. I will ask that you respect what I have previously stated in this thread.

Let's see if you can do that.

Thank you.

[Tom]

Just like most cops, out of control, these guys are going to get a pass.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/29/blackwater.immunity/index.html

Your premise not only foolish, it is insulting to the vast majority of cops everywhere, who put their lives on the line every day so that hack like you can sit in your cave and pollute the internet. Most cops out of control - try this - ALL crooks are out of control. What happened, a traiffic cop question your MD license plate?

[46zilzal]

What happened, a traffic cop question your MD license plate?
You have been watching too many old movies. Those plates went out about 1960.

[PaceAdvantage]

You have been watching too many old movies. Those plates went out about 1960.Not entirely....