Hawthorne Derby on Saturday

[toetoe]

If Twilight Meteor doesn't fire (4/1, but sure to get pounded down), can a first-time turfer win ? Thoughts ? Anyone think J-L Samyn ( :lol: ) can win ?

[kenwoodallpromos]

I like Violette's horse!

[headhawg]

I would be surprised if Twilight Meteor is over 9-5 which will be way too low in this field. Of the 1st turfers, Ghazi Up and All I Can Get are bred decently for the sod (James the Greater, not so much), but GU will be compromised by running style, and both will have their hands (hooves) full with the experienced lawn runners.

I'm with Kenwood -- Summer Doldrums has run four straight triple digit CJs and has a strong late kick. A play for me @5-2 or better. My scare horse, however, is Love Dubai. It wouldn't shock me if that one crossed the wire first.

[Robert Fischer]

Twilight Meteor is tough to bet against here. He should be about 2-1 against this field. 2nd race back in his comfort zone and no Nobiz to steal his thunder today.

Doldrums is the other talent in the race. He may be in a form decline.

Samyn on Bold Hawk is a good horse to include underneath. There are a few horses who should be quiting at the end, and Hawk looks like a solid enough horse who has a shot at getting into the trifecta.

Western Prize could cap a tri or super.

[BeauNarro]

Hey y'all. I'm new to the board here, but I've been around the boards a few times...(yuk yuk)

I have to go with Summer Doldrums here. He's proven the most of all of these horses. Plus he has won with speed or when rated. Hawthorne's is not an exceptionally fast turf course so if he hangs close he should be able to power past these. He also has Chris Emigh up who is the current leader in Illinois' jockey colony.

I worked at Hawthorne for 10 years until 3 years ago so I'm kinda familiar with the track. You never know a sure thing in horse racing but my trifecta pick is:

10 with 3-4-6-7-9 with 3-4-6-7-9
and
3/9 with 10 with 3-4-6-7-9

[the_fat_man]

I don't typically bet HAW, so I'm not familiar with the turf course(s) there.

I do know, however, that Summer Doldrums is the quintessential suckup horse that basically depends on other horses getting poorer trips. And Twilight Meteor doesn't exactly scare me.

Bold Hawk has some upside. He's still a bit green, and has stretch footwork issues but he's got enough of a late kick to run these down, assuming he gets a decent ride from the Anchor Man. I'd like something near the morning line to bet him, however.

[toetoe]

hawg,

I was gonna risk my reputation ( :lol: ) with a pick of Love Dubai. I think he may drift above 20/1, which I would require.

[headhawg]

toe,

I would definitely play it at 20-1 but I don't think that you are going to get that. I don't have the PPs in front of me but if I recall his figs are competitive and is 3 for 7 ITM (no wins, however) on the turf. (Hence my interest. Maybe even a play at 8-1 or better.)

[toetoe]

Voy Por Mas Uno is one of my favorites. I managed to miss out on him BOTH times he won at 16/1 ( :bang: ), but I generally look for frontrunners at Arling Town, so the switch to Hawthorne makes her no play for me, barring huge odds.

[Tee]

I was liking Bold Hawk till I saw the 2/1 price.

Starvinsky looks much better up there at 7/1.

[samyn on the green]

Bold Hawk is going to mow down this group with ease. Ask your computers or tip sheets to focus on the distance. Who is powerful at 9-10F and who has distance issues? If your capping mind or computer or tip sheet is worth the money it should have spit out Bold Hawk as the play of the day. Absolutely powerful kick in the lane is the trump card that is going to win this race. The cutback will accentuate the kick and disappoint those that let jockeycapping dictate their play. Time for a power play.

W #3
EX box 3,9,10

[headhawg]

Uh...If you like Bold Hawk so much why the X box???

[john del riccio]

VOY POR UNO MAS may well wire them.


Good Luck.

John

[toetoe]

Change my :lol: to :eek: !!!!!

[samyn on the green]

Uh...If you like Bold Hawk so much why the X box???I don't know, we can talk about over surf and turf later.

[Robert Fischer]

:ThmbUp: Samyn! comes through



that trifecta was criminal
Bold Hawk - Twilight Meteor - Western Prize

you beat Doldrums with Western Prize and it only pays $42?????????

[the_fat_man]

Hmmm

Seems like today was a major breakthrough. Apparently, 2 MAJOR and I do mean MAJOR supporters of the world class suckup horse, Summer Doldrums, RF and JDR actually went against him today. :jump: :ThmbUp:

Hopefully my comments had something to do with it (though, I've been saying it for a quite a while, fellas)

This was even more rewarding than betting the winner.

It was. :D

P.S. just joking.

[DJofSD]

Sorry I didn't see this thread beforehand.

The Silver Hawk horse had a morning line of 10 to 1 -- I was drooling. Thank God Samyn got through!

[Robert Fischer]

421

for an easy one :bang:

[Stevie Belmont]

Once again showing them how it's done..Great Call. Super selection for connections who meant business shipping in with a future GI winner. Congrats on the 10$ clam winner....



Bold Hawk is going to mow down this group with ease. Ask your computers or tip sheets to focus on the distance. Who is powerful at 9-10F and who has distance issues? If your capping mind or computer or tip sheet is worth the money it should have spit out Bold Hawk as the play of the day. Absolutely powerful kick in the lane is the trump card that is going to win this race. The cutback will accentuate the kick and disappoint those that let jockeycapping dictate their play. Time for a power play.

W #3
EX box 3,9,10

[samyn on the green]

The winner of this race is attempting to make a huge comeback in the Knickerbocker after a three year layoff. (http://gregcalabrese.blogspot.com/2010/10/mother-of-all-comebacksbold-hawk.html)