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46zilzal
09-13-2007, 11:45 AM
http://www.sohoblues.com/9-11-Still-Killing.html

PaceAdvantage
09-14-2007, 12:15 AM
Does anyone wonder if there was any unreported exposure to radiation at Ground Zero? Some of these illnesses sound like they should have taken much longer to develop, unless they were radiation-related....for instance:

NYPD Officer Reggie Hillaire, here in an examination room at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, has cancer related to post 9/11 toxic exposures. Officer Hillaire had his thyroid removed due to thyroid cancer and now has multiple myeloma.Any thoughts from the doctors among us?

Tom
09-14-2007, 07:36 AM
??? Was radiation detected at ground zero?

OTM Al
09-14-2007, 09:25 AM
There wasn't any radiation, just a lot of really nasty carcinogens in the air. Burning plasitcs of all types. Girders sprayed with asbestos according to the construction techniques of the time. The smell was indescribable, even from a couple miles away, so for those on top of it I can't imagine what was absorbed into their bodies.

ddog
09-14-2007, 10:40 AM
Heard somewhere that every search dog used on the pile
is now dead.

??

OTM Al
09-14-2007, 10:55 AM
Considering it was 6 years ago, this shouldn't be that surprising.

ddog
09-14-2007, 11:08 AM
i don't know about that.
avg lifespan is around 10-12 years.

not sure whe those dogs normally begin their duties?

kenwoodallpromos
09-14-2007, 11:32 AM
"Arab Islamist terrorists hijacked airplanes and crashed them into the twin towers"
At least Time magazine got that right!!

46zilzal
09-14-2007, 11:41 AM
Carcinogens can be absorbed by ingestion, through the skin or inhaled. Many are solvents and can cause lesser demyelinating injuries (peripheral neuropathies). There is such a widespread individual tolerance and exposure variation in different cases that any hard and fast "rules" are prone to be inaccurate.

Depending upon it being a vapor, particulate or gas and the ambient temperature all factor in.

There are many carcinogens OTHER than radiation. The response can also be years after exposure. Steve McQueen died of a cancer directly related to his being around asbestos some 30 years after exposure.

kenwoodallpromos
09-14-2007, 02:04 PM
Carcinogens can be absorbed by ingestion, through the skin or inhaled. Many are solvents and can cause lesser demyelinating injuries (peripheral neuropathies). There is such a widespread individual tolerance and exposure variation in different cases that any hard and fast "rules" are prone to be inaccurate.

Depending upon it being a vapor, particulate or gas and the ambient temperature all factor in.

There are many carcinogens OTHER than radiation. The response can also be years after exposure. Steve McQueen died of a cancer directly related to his being around asbestos some 30 years after exposure.
"Was diagnosed with a form of lung cancer, mesothelioma, which is related to asbestos exposure, although McQueen had been a heavy smoker as well. He wore an asbestos-insulated racers suit in his race cars, and possibly was exposed to the harmful insulating material during his stint in the Marines. His first wife recalled many instances when he had recklessly exposed himself to the harmful substance by soaking a rag in liquid asbestos and placing it over his mouth while racing cars."

PaceAdvantage
09-15-2007, 02:41 AM
46,

I was specifically focusing in on the thyroid cancer case(s). The thyroid is particularly susceptible to the effects of radiation. When someone comes down with thyroid cancer so quickly after an event, doesn't that make one wonder about possible radiation exposure?

JustRalph
09-15-2007, 05:19 AM
Steve Mcqueen also had a job as a teen with a contractor who tore down and rehabbed old schools.........this included the ceiling portion of the schools..........that were made of pure asbestos..............you think he wore a mask at 17 years old?

46zilzal
09-15-2007, 01:58 PM
46,

I was specifically focusing in on the thyroid cancer case(s). The thyroid is particularly susceptible to the effects of radiation. When someone comes down with thyroid cancer so quickly after an event, doesn't that make one wonder about possible radiation exposure?
If the statistics of CA at the site were out of balance to the national and regional averages. Often people never look at the "background" leves before creating cause and effect.

PaceAdvantage
09-16-2007, 01:38 AM
If the statistics of CA at the site were out of balance to the national and regional averages. Often people never look at the "background" leves before creating cause and effect.So if I'm reading you right, you are considering the possibility that the thyroid cases are merely coincidental?