len czyzniejewski

[silverfox]

Has anyone used any of his systems?I used one with very good luck.I believe he lives in Vegas.

[headhawg]

Ok, I'll bite -- which one?

[silverfox]

His hammering the chalk one,or what you feel is his best.I bet a ton of money on the first one and have made a small profit.

[garyoz]

His hammering the chalk one,or what you feel is his best.I bet a ton of money on the first one and have made a small profit.

Sounds like a recipe for success, put "a ton of money" at risk to make a small profit. Worked well at Belmont yesterday.

[silverfox]

Lens works are excellent.Word out of Gold Coast Casino Vegas,he bets big.If you took his action ,you will be homeless.

[Wickel]

Len C. = RPM. Which begs the question: Is Len really Len? Or is Len Dave?

[silverfox]

Go to people seach .He lives in Vegas.

[tomddxx]

Anyone receive the latest mailing from RPM about Len czyzniejewski's latest angle method called Super Study which uses a point system for betting on favorites less than 4 to 1 or long shots greater than 9 to 1 ?

From what I can gather, Len is a real person in Las Vegas and not Dave Powers from RPM....however anything associated with RPM sends up a hurricane warning flag.

Thanx for any help. Len is selling the method thru RPM for $ 68.

[trying2win]

Len Cz authored a book called 'THE TOP 52' which reviewed and graded 52 systems and methods on the market. The ironical thing was that he gave failing grades to many of RPM'S systems. I thought if was a worthwhile read.


T2W

[toetoe]

Leaving aside Len's Stairway to the Stars for the moment, if you enrolled at Silverfox's grammar school, you am work at Labor Ready. :eek:

[imreallytrying]

I recall he was at the michael pizzolla seminar last year. he is a software programer who was there with dan serra talking about the new upgade to the professional handicapper

[trying2win]

Leaving aside Len's Stairway to the Stars for the moment, if you enrolled at Silverfox's grammar school, you am work at Labor Ready. :eek:

Toetoe:

Look who's calling the kettle black! So what if Silverfox made a few typos? I make some too at times.

After I've read a lot of your left-field posts in the past, quite often they had me wondering...huh? I didn't know what your were getting at in many of your posts. You need to work on your clarity. You might have 'meant what you said', but you hadn't 'said what you meant' in many cases, leaving the reader baffled. At least I can understand what message Silverfox is trying to convey.

Meanwhile, back on topic...I don't give Len Cz a passing grade on his SUPER SECTRET METHOD, which is included in the SUPERSTARS OF HANDICAPPING software. Mind you, most of the systems programmed into this software I wouldn't give a passing grade. However, if one has this software and uses the 'consensus selections' in conjunction with some of the top 3 horses selected in some of the systems included, it's showing promising results in this area.

By the way, I read somewhere that the original price of this software was $399. I don't think it's worth it at that price, but sometimes you can get it on ebay for much cheaper.

[tomddxx]

Im not sure if this is the right area to post this ......but I tried to respond to
an email from fran69@verizon.com concerning Len C. and that email address was no good...so maybe f that person reads this, they can send the correct email address to tobqqa@yahoo.com

Sorry for inconvenience to anyone reading this.

[Tom Barrister]

Len is a real person and not Clint Tracy ("Dave Powers"). I don't know where silverfox heard that Len is a big bettor.

[timtam]

I know a while ago Len was selling systems which were a few years old

that originally were sold by RPM. Every now and then I'll get a flyer for

one of these systems but the ironic thing is the envelope and the advertising

material are identical to RPM. I thought too maybe Dave Powers was

branching out in Vegas under another name. I just got a flyer in the mail

today for another Jeff Sillifant system. His last one Payday Playday was

pretty bad and very elementary and that one was supposed to be his

last because of this or that I forget why. This stuff just never ends.

Every system is endorsed by Tom Console. After a while it seems they

bought one of those booklets which have 100 systems in them usually

one liners and make an entire package , endorsed by Tom Console and about

3 months later Len Cz programs it into a computer.

[Tom Barrister]

Chuck Blaskower came out with a new system seemingly every month, sold by RPM with 1.30 to 1.40 ROI's promised. Eventually 12 of them were programmed into a $200 piece of software called "Power Zap". It modeled its results globally and by track, and a one-month sample of 20 tracks produced global ROI's in the high 70s to low 80s, far from the 1.40 ROI's promised for each method.

Steve Wolson is another who came out with a new system every few months and incorporated them into his Powerline software. The difference between Wolson and Blaskower is that Wolson's systems were more logical and better constructed. The results were a little better, with several of Wolson's systems approaching or reaching 0.90 ROI.

The program screens for Power Zap and Powerline software are almost exactly the same. I'm pretty sure that Len programmed Power Zap, and I'm guessing that he also programmed Powerline for Wolson.

Since Powerline is no longer offered, it won't hurt to post a screen listing Powerline's performance. This sample, using version 5.0 of the software, covers tracks availabe from the online wagering services, for about 90 days from early July until early October of this year (when I decided that further modeling wasn't going to change anything).

http://www.br52.com/powerline.jpg

Mid to high 80's ROI's isn't bad for mechanical systems, although it also isn't profitable.

[tomddxx]

I just got the new RPM system advertisement in the mail too.......looks and sounds like all the rest of those ads.......probably just some more curve fitted bovine excrement.

By the way, anyone know who this guy Console is who is always mentioned in these ads ?

[gallahadion]

Len is a real person and not Clint Tracy ("Dave Powers"). I don't know where silverfox heard that Len is a big bettor.

Never trust a man with 2 first names!

[gallahadion]

Look, first off, I'm new to this forum so take it easy on me for a while.
Now, I aren't no brain scientist that can cypher like that e=gh3 guy but i know a thing or two about a thing or two.

I like some here have purchased my share of RPM stuff over the years but haven't gotten anything from that guy (dave powers) in years and I sincerely thought he was out of business. I thought it made very interesting bathroom reading also. The one thing that I did get from him that did work and was good was called Prime Power i believe. It was all about teaching you how to make your own numbers ( i was a numbers guy back then) and i actually did pretty good with it. Like most things like this though, it required lots of time to do and I lost interest because of that after a while. So many of the "systems" though always left out one or two pieces of information in the "step by step" instructions that it was hard to make them work. And, in this ADD(atten deficit disorder) world we live in (of which I'm affected) I don't have time to be at the track everyday and collect the small payoffs that alot of these systems built their wealth upon.

I've pretty much abandoned buying systems but during those days I did a full meet workup on Pro Rated Longshots that I bought from American Turf Monthly and hit some HUGE prices and it DID make a nice profit for the life of the meet. Again though, you gotta play everyday to catch alot of those big prices. And thats what I've found to be the root of most of these systems NOT working for the average guy. You can't just go on the weekend and expect it to work, most of these things are long haul focused.

I've got friends that bet every weekend and have never bought anything remotely labeled a "system" and these guys do really well and are the best handicappers I know. They hit supers, tris and pick 3's on a regular basis, and have pulled their share of pick 6's in earlier days, and STILL these guys have day jobs. Its just so hard to do it for a living, so much pressure if you know you have to pay the rent with hopeful winnings from that day. My friends use their track time to enjoy themselves and supplement their income.

With all that said, for me its come down to trying to make several NICE hits over the course of the year and NOT try to grind it out with $9.00 winners.
I'm a swing for the fences type of guy so thats how i play now, nothing but supers and some saver tris. MSW, MC, Turf, and large field low level claimers (usually the last race of the day - I do so well at the last race of the day, its amazing).

I don't really have a specific selection method, just use what i've learned over the years but I have been toying with something my ex's uncle called the "crook" method. He thinks every race is fixed and has his "list" of which trainer/jockey combos are the "crooks" and religiously plays those and hits. He bought his house off of one of his hits. I'm no longer in touch with him but I'm making my own "crooks" list and we'll see what happens in the new year.

Something that probably isn't so new to most of you but one of my friends is doing this so I'm going to start is tracking running style of the top 4 runners - no surprise top 4 (we're super players). We use this in conjunction with what we see on paper, not as a stand alone.

As far as handicapping software goes, I've only found one that works, its Pro Rated Longshots - the software program.

Wow, this is really off topic and I hope it doesnt' get deleted. I might try to post it somewhere else so don't go flaming me.

[PaceAdvantage]

....so take it easy on me for a while.

...so don't go flaming me.Cut the dramatics.....oh, and welcome to the board!

[andicap]

Cut the dramatics.....oh, and welcome to the board!

OK, this is deja vu all over again --

[riskman]

Len C. = RPM. Which begs the question: Is Len really Len? Or is Len Dave?

or is Dave Cliff?. I have a box in my basement full of RPM material--another path to the long road of frustration. Why would a LV capper need to sell systems through RPM?

[PaceAdvantage]

OK, this is deja vu all over again --That's what prompted my "is there an echo in here" line in the other thread....

[andicap]

That's what prompted my "is there an echo in here" line in the other thread....
yes, I didn't get THAT line untiil I read THIS thread. :D

[LEN C]

While browsing around pace advantage, I seem to have come accross a forum dedicated to lil' ol' me. How can I be of assistance? Yes, I live in Las Vegas, and "big bettor" is a relative term :) .

[LEN C]

Lens works are excellent.Word out of Gold Coast Casino Vegas,he bets big.If you took his action ,you will be homeless.

I'm flattered, but how much exactly is a "bets big" bet? And is "Word out of the Gold Coast" maybe that big sign outside the casino that says "Len Bets Big!". :) :)

Just curious as to how these stories get started.

:)

[shanta]

Len
Welcome to the board.
Are you programming Michael Pizzolla's new software "Black Magic"?

Richie

[LEN C]

Len
Welcome to the board.
Are you programming Michael Pizzolla's new software "Black Magic"?

Richie

I'll be glad to answer most questions, but not this time. Michael wants confidentiality on this, and I'm going to respect that. No my comment this time is "No comment". Sorry about that.

[njcurveball]

I'll be glad to answer most questions, but not this time. Michael wants confidentiality on this, and I'm going to respect that. No my comment this time is "No comment". Sorry about that.

Are you running for President? :lol:

[LEN C]

Are you running for President? :lol:

Yes, I'm the one in the Democratic debates wearing a dress. When elected, my husband will be known as "The First Laddie".

[shanta]

I'll be glad to answer most questions, but not this time. Michael wants confidentiality on this, and I'm going to respect that. No my comment this time is "No comment". Sorry about that.

Thanks Len.

[cato]

I like the TPH program and think you and Dan did a fine job on it.

When I bought the program at the Pizzolla seminar in the fall of 2006 we were told that an update/upgrade was coming out soon.

How's that coming along?

Was I hallucinating or do we have a different interpretation of "soon"?

:)

Cheers, Cato

[Triopstor]

Hello,

What is the TPH program? TPH = ?


Thank You.

[Overlay]

Hello,

What is the TPH program? TPH = ?


Thank You.

"The Professional Handicapper"
.

[Triopstor]

Since Powerline is no longer offered, it won't hurt to post a screen listing Powerline's performance. This sample, using version 5.0 of the software, covers tracks availabe from the online wagering services, for about 90 days from early July until early October of this year (when I decided that further modeling wasn't going to change anything).

http://www.br52.com/powerline.jpg



Here is an update of Steve Wolson's products to which I have no connections with. I didn't understand how the software for the Ultra-Line system picks 26.13% winners as this is based upon selecting 2 horses per race. But here is the information as of Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:58 PM as per a recieved email.




STEVE WOLSON PAPER & PEN METHODS
==============================
A complete list of my methods sold since 1991, in approximate chronological order:

C3
Best Bets
Maiden Project
Turf Project
Positive Factor Scan
Power Line
Power Line Plus
Performance Factor Angle
Ultra Line
System 2000
Explosion Angle
Class Angle
Super Speed Scan
Power Line 96, V2.0
The Claiming Race
The Exotic Machine
The Allowance Race
The Jockey Factors
The Speed Class Factor
The Win Factor
The Bounce-Back Angle
Beat the Maidens
Win Filter
Form Fitness Factor
Power Numbers
Play To Win
In Front
Power Line Class Factor
Power Line Plus 2006
Four Factor Rating
The Win Matrix
Power Pick-3's
The Best Horse

These systems are $40 each, with the following multiple purchase discounts:

Purchase 6-10, cost is $35 each

Purchase 11-15, cost is $33 each

Purchase 16-20, cost is $31 each, and 21 or more, $30 each.

If you want to purchase any, you can do it through PayPal, my account there is the same as my email address, 'wolsons@aol.com' (http://ca.mc508.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to='wolsons@aol.com').


Steve

[Triopstor]

Good thanks. The Dan Serra's Professional Handicapper.


Not sure if this is available anymore? And I don't know where this one is sold.