Que
06-27-2001, 02:37 AM
It's time to put an end to all the nonsense that's been going on on this board over the past few days and return to the subject that brought us here in the first place, i.e. thoroughbred handicapping.
Although the little voice in my head said not to post this information, i.e. "you're giving too much information to the competition," however if we all don't share on occassion then none of us will learn anything. To begin, while updating my jockey stats this past week, I was amazed at some of the differences a simple jockey switch can make to their overall ROI, i.e. by blindly playing a jockey switching horses, or blindling playing a jockey riding the same horse consecutively. Overall, there appears to be only a slight increase in ROI (approx. 1.9%) with jockeys making the switch; but, the disparity in ROIs for many jockeys is simply amazing. For example, this year's overall results (1/1/01 to 6/24/01) are shown below.
Jockey Switch Win ROI Count Wins Win Pct
Yes 0.783 128,398 14,892 11.6%
No 0.764 113,516 15,323 13.5%
However, more revealing is whether a particular jockey benefits from making a switch or not. For example, the following shows this year's top ten jockey's ROI for each of the last three years. (Note. My data may not be 100% accurate/complete, but its close enough for handicapping purposes):
2001 Ten Leading jockeys (by number of wins)
Jockey Switch Win ROI Mounts
Dunkelberger Travis L
2001
Yes 0.909 401
No 0.973 285
2000
Yes 0.779 420
No 1.189 236
1999
Yes 0.711 124
No 0.862 61
Observation: Travis Dunkelberger does better when riding the same horse for consecutive mounts.
Dominguez Ramon A
2001
Yes 0.906 463
No 0.937 351
2000
Yes 1.220 958
No 0.807 625
1999
Yes 1.013 468
No 1.019 340
Observation: Inconclusive, except for 2000--wow... what a difference that year was.
Baze Russell A
2001
Yes 0.755 393
No 0.724 312
2000
Yes 0.758 845
No 0.849 640
1999
Yes 0.877 767
No 0.740 512
Observation: Don't bet Baze until he can at least beat the track take.
Lumpkins Jason P
2001
Yes 1.192 390
No 0.884 309
2000
Yes 1.252 610
No 1.067 255
1999
Yes 1.057 503
No 1.063 284
Observation: The "little voice" really wanted me to delete this query.
Day Pat
2001
Yes 0.933 381
No 0.854 266
2000
Yes 0.834 715
No 0.739 503
1999
Yes 0.693 716
No 0.884 534
Observation: Over the last two years, Pat Day has done substantially better after switching horses--not so in 1999 though.
Velazquez John R
2001
Yes 1.056 406
No 0.949 257
2000
Yes 1.071 603
No 0.867 468
1999
Yes 0.947 754
No 0.928 659
Observation: "Delete... delete."
Gomez Estaban A
2001
Yes 0.725 1359
No 0.886 1670
2000
Yes 0.706 359
No 1.070 423
1999
Yes 0.667 362
No 0.895 391
Observation: Don't play Estaban Gomez if he's switching horses.
Corbett Glenn W
2001
Yes 0.815 310
No 0.969 410
2000
Yes 1.145 462
No 0.959 555
1999
Yes 0.992 457
No 0.944 534
Observation: Inconclusive... but overall a pretty nice set of ROIs.
Cora David
2001
Yes 0.956 376
No 0.778 282
2000
Yes 0.525 343
No 0.598 273
Observation: Give extra credit to horses/trainers switching to David Cora.
Chavez Jorge F
2001
Yes 1.123 442
No 0.853 246
2000
Yes 0.954 822
No 0.850 604
1999
Yes 1.005 940
No 0.992 633
Observation: A pretty impressive record for such a popular jockey.
A few more observations:
- Overall, you will probably gain a slight advantage, approx. 2%, by blindly playing horse's making jockey changes--although your win percentage will probably decrease. For example try this experiment, divide your past plays into two separate sets--one set with horse's making a jockey switch, and the other set with horse's not making a jockey switch. Compute your ROI for each set--then see which set has the highest ROI.
- Although I can't yet prove this, but my suspicion is that the more popular the jockey, the less likely the jockey switch will produce a postive change in ROI, i.e. just look at Travis Dunkelberger's stats.
- Although not shown in this study, the results of a jockey switch or lack of it, is more pronounced with the lesser known jockeys.
- Jason Lumpkins must be one hell of a jockey. Also, if you had blindly played Jorge Chavez when switching mounts over the last three years you would have broken even.
Although, this simple technique alone can't make anyone a winner--it might help someone get a little bit closer. Anyway, has anyone else noticed/researched this?
regards,
Que.
Although the little voice in my head said not to post this information, i.e. "you're giving too much information to the competition," however if we all don't share on occassion then none of us will learn anything. To begin, while updating my jockey stats this past week, I was amazed at some of the differences a simple jockey switch can make to their overall ROI, i.e. by blindly playing a jockey switching horses, or blindling playing a jockey riding the same horse consecutively. Overall, there appears to be only a slight increase in ROI (approx. 1.9%) with jockeys making the switch; but, the disparity in ROIs for many jockeys is simply amazing. For example, this year's overall results (1/1/01 to 6/24/01) are shown below.
Jockey Switch Win ROI Count Wins Win Pct
Yes 0.783 128,398 14,892 11.6%
No 0.764 113,516 15,323 13.5%
However, more revealing is whether a particular jockey benefits from making a switch or not. For example, the following shows this year's top ten jockey's ROI for each of the last three years. (Note. My data may not be 100% accurate/complete, but its close enough for handicapping purposes):
2001 Ten Leading jockeys (by number of wins)
Jockey Switch Win ROI Mounts
Dunkelberger Travis L
2001
Yes 0.909 401
No 0.973 285
2000
Yes 0.779 420
No 1.189 236
1999
Yes 0.711 124
No 0.862 61
Observation: Travis Dunkelberger does better when riding the same horse for consecutive mounts.
Dominguez Ramon A
2001
Yes 0.906 463
No 0.937 351
2000
Yes 1.220 958
No 0.807 625
1999
Yes 1.013 468
No 1.019 340
Observation: Inconclusive, except for 2000--wow... what a difference that year was.
Baze Russell A
2001
Yes 0.755 393
No 0.724 312
2000
Yes 0.758 845
No 0.849 640
1999
Yes 0.877 767
No 0.740 512
Observation: Don't bet Baze until he can at least beat the track take.
Lumpkins Jason P
2001
Yes 1.192 390
No 0.884 309
2000
Yes 1.252 610
No 1.067 255
1999
Yes 1.057 503
No 1.063 284
Observation: The "little voice" really wanted me to delete this query.
Day Pat
2001
Yes 0.933 381
No 0.854 266
2000
Yes 0.834 715
No 0.739 503
1999
Yes 0.693 716
No 0.884 534
Observation: Over the last two years, Pat Day has done substantially better after switching horses--not so in 1999 though.
Velazquez John R
2001
Yes 1.056 406
No 0.949 257
2000
Yes 1.071 603
No 0.867 468
1999
Yes 0.947 754
No 0.928 659
Observation: "Delete... delete."
Gomez Estaban A
2001
Yes 0.725 1359
No 0.886 1670
2000
Yes 0.706 359
No 1.070 423
1999
Yes 0.667 362
No 0.895 391
Observation: Don't play Estaban Gomez if he's switching horses.
Corbett Glenn W
2001
Yes 0.815 310
No 0.969 410
2000
Yes 1.145 462
No 0.959 555
1999
Yes 0.992 457
No 0.944 534
Observation: Inconclusive... but overall a pretty nice set of ROIs.
Cora David
2001
Yes 0.956 376
No 0.778 282
2000
Yes 0.525 343
No 0.598 273
Observation: Give extra credit to horses/trainers switching to David Cora.
Chavez Jorge F
2001
Yes 1.123 442
No 0.853 246
2000
Yes 0.954 822
No 0.850 604
1999
Yes 1.005 940
No 0.992 633
Observation: A pretty impressive record for such a popular jockey.
A few more observations:
- Overall, you will probably gain a slight advantage, approx. 2%, by blindly playing horse's making jockey changes--although your win percentage will probably decrease. For example try this experiment, divide your past plays into two separate sets--one set with horse's making a jockey switch, and the other set with horse's not making a jockey switch. Compute your ROI for each set--then see which set has the highest ROI.
- Although I can't yet prove this, but my suspicion is that the more popular the jockey, the less likely the jockey switch will produce a postive change in ROI, i.e. just look at Travis Dunkelberger's stats.
- Although not shown in this study, the results of a jockey switch or lack of it, is more pronounced with the lesser known jockeys.
- Jason Lumpkins must be one hell of a jockey. Also, if you had blindly played Jorge Chavez when switching mounts over the last three years you would have broken even.
Although, this simple technique alone can't make anyone a winner--it might help someone get a little bit closer. Anyway, has anyone else noticed/researched this?
regards,
Que.