More betting account woes

[tholl]

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[PaceAdvantage]

Well, this certainly sucks. I am a brisnet customer, and not being able to wager on NYRA, Monmouth, Arlington, Hollywood and Calder is a huge loss come May.

What are they thinking? How does this possibly benefit anyone? Those are some monster summer tracks to toss out the window....and for what?

This whole industry is ass-backwards.

[railbird]

I'll say it sucks BIG TIME!!!. I will be looking elsewhere for another betting service first thing in the A.M.

[andicap]

What do folks believe You Bet will do?

I like TSNbet for the video but for now You Bet is the only one-stop shopping around that's not off-shore, am I correct? Or does the Philly Park site take
all the major tracks?

Be very interesting to see how all of this plays out. Looks like everyone is playing hardball vs. TVG.

[tholl]

Well, this certainly sucks. I am a brisnet customer, and not being able to wager on NYRA, Monmouth, Arlington, Hollywood and Calder is a huge loss come May.

What are they thinking? How does this possibly benefit anyone? Those are some monster summer tracks to toss out the window....and for what?

This whole industry is ass-backwards.

Its not Brisnet "tossing out the window"--TVG has the rights to those tracks and they want to charge an exhorbitant amount to sell the signal. Believe me Bisnet wants those tracks--its going to hurt them not to have them, but they will survive. Word is that Youbet may not survive and may go under.

[thelyingthief]

reason, among many, to maintain that offshore betting account. i love america.

[098poi]

Well, this certainly sucks. I am a brisnet customer, and not being able to wager on NYRA, Monmouth, Arlington, Hollywood and Calder is a huge loss come May.

What are they thinking? How does this possibly benefit anyone? Those are some monster summer tracks to toss out the window....and for what?

This whole industry is ass-backwards.

From my time machine

NTRA News Brief 10/1/07

Due to increasing internal costs and the supreme value of the track signal no wagering concern has been able to obtain the rights to any signal at any track. Therefore starting October 26, 2007 (Breeders Cup)

-All online wagering will be suspended
-Entry fees for patrons at all tracks will be $50.00
-Parking at all tracks will range from $35.00 - $50.00 per vehicle
-Minimum wagers will be increased to $14.00 except for the new Tricky Six (where one picks the first six finishers in exact order) which will be a $5.00 wager
-Racing Forms will no longer be available but for $6.00 one can purchase "Larry's Fun Picks", a daily fun and informative tout sheet

Please mark your calender and remember to wager responsibly

[philsfan07]

Tholl, What are you complaining about? You get a mint julep glass !!!!:D

[philsfan07]

reason, among many, to maintain that offshore betting account. i love america.

Except the problem here is it's getting tougher to get payouts as a US customer. And they could say bye bye at the drop of a hat

[BIG RED]

What off-shore gives you live video of all their tracks?

[JustRalph]

This may be a watershed moment for TVG. I see the big dogs are starting align and are lifting their leg on TVG..........

[john del riccio]

Well, this certainly sucks. I am a brisnet customer, and not being able to wager on NYRA, Monmouth, Arlington, Hollywood and Calder is a huge loss come May.

What are they thinking? How does this possibly benefit anyone? Those are some monster summer tracks to toss out the window....and for what?

This whole industry is ass-backwards.

I am honestly sickened by this. Who is puling the strings here ?

John

[BillW]

Well, this certainly sucks. I am a brisnet customer, and not being able to wager on NYRA, Monmouth, Arlington, Hollywood and Calder is a huge loss come May.

What are they thinking? How does this possibly benefit anyone? Those are some monster summer tracks to toss out the window....and for what?

This whole industry is ass-backwards.

Another thing to note is that for all this time, AmericaTAB has been covering the TVG surcharge of $0.25/bet $20/Mo. for its customers seamlessly. I doubt that AmericaTAB is the bad guy here. Sounds like TVG is taking an us or them stand and are going to go down fighting.

[BillW]

This may be a watershed moment for TVG. I see the big dogs are starting align and are lifting their leg on TVG..........

And TVG talking heads brag that it never rains in CA. :eek:

[rrbauer]

What do folks believe You Bet will do?

I like TSNbet for the video but for now You Bet is the only one-stop shopping around that's not off-shore, am I correct? Or does the Philly Park site take
all the major tracks?

Be very interesting to see how all of this plays out. Looks like everyone is playing hardball vs. TVG.

Philly shows the odds on the NYRA tracks but doesn't take the bets from their website (don't know about via telephone) and the NYRA races aren't shown on the website video (or their cable channel last time I was up there). NJ may be a new game this year now that they're signed on with TVG. Philly took MTH last year. I think Philly takes the other tracks or did last time they had meets at those tracks.

[Spendabuck85]

I'm a Brisbet customer and haven't received any notification of this. Also, I don't see any reference to it on their website and their track calendar for May still shows Belmont, etc.

[Ron]

I'm a Brisbet customer and haven't received any notification of this. Also, I don't see any reference to it on their website and their track calendar for May still shows Belmont, etc.

Same here. I did get a note from youbet yesterday that they will be carrying Churchill.

[real quiet]

Ron, thanks for the update on Youbet. The Churchill stakes races are listed under their stakes schedule, but Churchill Downs is not listed on their racing schedule. I sent them an e-mail two days ago asking if CD would be available but they never responded.

[NoCal Boy]

Who sent you the note from youbet? seems odd as one would think they would have announced it unless it is not "official" yet, but all but a done deal.

[Bobzilla]

This absolutely stinks and I don't know who is at fault. Probably TVG. At least 95% of my wagers are on races conducted on New York tracks. Unfortunately, I don't have the option of becoming a TVG member because I reside in a state TVG doesn't want to risk doing business in. So I guess YouBet it is. Would rather not send my money offshore as I may never see it again. Has anyone else heard anything about the possibility YouBet might be going belly-up as alluded to in post #1 of this thread?

The fact that this can actually happen in the first place certainly presents a perfect example of what a complete shambles this industry is in.

Another thing, and I know I'm dreaming here, but if BrisBet were to regain the rights to offer wagering on New York tracks, wouldn't it be nice if they offered rebates on bets made on the Belmont Stakes Day card as a show of good faith to their loyal customers who have been inconvenienced twice this year? The first being the delayed contract renewal for AmericaTab back in February when the NYRA and the NY state wagering board had a breakdown in communication.

[NoCal Boy]

Youbet is not going to go belly up. Based on what? They arguably have the best site in the business and $20MM in cash on their books and this is after paying TVG something like $20MM a year for exclusive tracks that are likey to end in the near to mid term. If anything, TVG is in big trouble as their financial model is broken. They can not seemingly afford to drop exclusivity fees and make it work. As it is, they will have a big hole to plug with ATab dropping them and who knows what Youbet will do next.

[Bobzilla]

The possibility of YouBet going under was mentioned in post #5. Seeing that I will probably have to become a YouBet member in another week it's good to know they're at least solvent. Thanks for the info.

[Spendabuck85]

Would still like to know where the original Brisbet info came from as I mentioned in an earlier post that nothing about this is on their website and have received no direct communication from them.

[NoCal Boy]

here is an article about it. If Youbet does the same (and I doubt they will because it also screws the tracks and horsemen that are exclusive to TVG), then TVG is toast.

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=38529

[bigmack]

It's a fluid situation but as of right now 3:30 Pac Time on a rainy day in SoCal, youbet is saying they haven't pinned down the agreement with Chuch'll

[PaceAdvantage]

Another thing to note is that for all this time, AmericaTAB has been covering the TVG surcharge of $0.25/bet $20/Mo. for its customers seamlessly. I doubt that AmericaTAB is the bad guy here. Sounds like TVG is taking an us or them stand and are going to go down fighting.

I didn't say AmericaTAB is the bad guy here. The whole industry shares the blame for "evolving" into this idiotic system of "exclusive tracks" and now this Churchill/Magna partnership....

The simple fact is that cutting off all these major signals at once isn't going to get them any points in the "Goodwill" department. They could have done this gradually...perhaps keep paying TVG for the bigger signals, such as NYRA, Monmouth and Hollywood.....

This will do nothing but force people to find another account wagering provider. I suppose they feel that the savings will offset the potential loss of customer base to the competition....

[Spendabuck85]

Thanks for the link.

[kev]

It might suck for some this summer, but come year end TVG will not have what? FG,AP,HOO,HOL,CRC and doesn't NTRA gets the choice where their going at the end of the year? I could be wrong. TVG just lost OP-HAW-EVD, I'll say they will be done by the end of 2008?

[schweitz]

I didn't say AmericaTAB is the bad guy here. The whole industry shares the blame for "evolving" into this idiotic system of "exclusive tracks" and now this Churchill/Magna partnership....

The simple fact is that cutting off all these major signals at once isn't going to get them any points in the "Goodwill" department. They could have done this gradually...perhaps keep paying TVG for the bigger signals, such as NYRA, Monmouth and Hollywood.....

This will do nothing but force people to find another account wagering provider. I suppose they feel that the savings will offset the potential loss of customer base to the competition....

I have been using AmericaTab/BrisBet since day one and expect this to get worked out either before the cut-off date or soon after. At least that is how these things have worked out in the past.

[Ron]

Who sent you the note from youbet? seems odd as one would think they would have announced it unless it is not "official" yet, but all but a done deal.

Member Services. They finally responded to my emails.

[mannyberrios]

Maybe you guys should try Phone Bet. I joined last Janurary, and they are really good. They dont show Aqu. ,but I hope they show Bel., Sar. (please). Pha. Phone Bet is real good, give them a try.

[GMB@BP]

I am so tired of this crap, this is the worst friggen sport and game to be a part of. Honestly, they want you to risk thousands of dollars on a product that is so average, using a on-line wagering system that they cant even agree on to the point you want to walk away and just say "F-This".

[point given]

Looks like the Callaways get alot of use this year. Screw them, I will be taking off and doing more enjoyable things than get involved in their turf battles. This sport continues to bury itself with no outside help needed. Maybe Steve Wynn was right when he said at the NY franchise hearings that "horse racing is a failed sport " . Why should the customer be put thru this to participate ? Why should we care anymore ?
Went to Gulfstream yesterday , or should I say Calder East, before going to watch the Mets/Marlins game. Tried to retrieve my "Good Luck Club" money for the season. Outside track windows for players club said to go into the casino to get it, OK. Enter the casino and get stopped by the sport jacketed security who wanted to inspect my bag, OK. Incesssant noise of slot machines pinging away. Waited on a cashiers line , then told that they don't do that here, you got to go to the players club window down there at the end of the casino. Another line. Incessant noise continues. Finally get the coupon and told I have to go to the Silks room on the north side building to cash it. Walk into the Silks simulcast room with my same bag, no security guys at the door, no inspection. Get on line to get the $$$, wrong line, you've got to go to the IRS window. Wait online, get the $$$ and run. What a user friendly place. Now , BRIS does this ! How do they expect people to support a game which treats its customers with so little respect. They can run their races in front of 50 people, while slots spin away fueling the purses, while their audience and customers exit the premises. Enough.

[garyoz]

This Board contributed to a very successful boycott of Magna a few years ago that forced Stronach to open GP and SA to Youbet, AmericaTab, etc. At his point I'm not even sure who to boycott. Perhaps CDSN, maybe AmericaTab? This coupled with the licensing for the New York tracks makes things look bleak.

When are the tracks ever going to listen to the customers? A negative expectation game (.18) and as a player you get jerked around. They must think the players are really stupid and a bunch of degenerates. The management deserve the death spiral they are facing.

Do they think you are going to open individual accounts with CDSN, the NYRA successor and whomever else? I think that this is curtains for TVG, depending on how the NYRA franchise falls out. Guess they think they are giving the players a break, to allow us to play.

This game has so many problems--drugs, rebates, idiotic management, politicians, etc. Would you recommend anyone spend serious time taking up this game? They will never attract newbies--

[bigmack]

I think that this is curtains for TVG
Deservedly so. Get them out this picture. Make their involvement as trice as possible.

[Zman179]

I'm no fan of how racing is managed and all, but I am in favor of AmericaTAB's stance in this tête-à-tête against TVG. It does hurt me big time as I bet on NYRA (I'll have to pay for pp's now...boohoo,) but I can see where ATAB gets slaughtered with these exclusitivity agreements in that they have to pay a higher fee PLUS pay 25¢ per wager/$20 per month per customer to TVG.
Exclusivity is no way to attract new customers to racing, it can only chase them away by making things inconvenient (i.e. the ADW problems experienced by California bettors.) Open up the market and let every ADW company get a chance to take every product; this can only help the racing fans in increased amenities (aka free stuff) and improved customer service so as to keep, and expand, their existing clientèle.
As far as AmericaTAB goes, I'll continue to bet with them on the other tracks that they offer. With free video and pp's, that's 100 times more than what I get from betting with NYC OTB, TVG, or NYRA. Bottom line: TVG needs to take a hike.

[linrom1]

The whole parimutuels wagering model is broken. All signal providers should be proportionally responsible for value of all purses and portion of racetrack operating expenses and TV broadcast costs based on the portion of the overall pool that they account for. They can keep any excess as profit. Let us see how long these parasites would stay in business.

TVG signed an exclusive marketing contract with NTRA in late nineties and spend considerable amount of money to bring wagering into your living room at a time when racing was collapsing. The amount of goodwill that TVG has contributed to racing is immeasurable. They have increased national and international racing exposure where racing industry itself failed to do so for decades.

[skate]

we'll look at it this way, at least we found the Nappy headed Hos.:lol:


hey, just kidding, look, sit yourself back and have a beer.

this would be a good time to show your composure, look up a new track, expand yourself. we've got a smorgasbord out here and you're nibbling on my ear.

hey, the guys over in Iraq can't bet either.

and and and , we have a great sport HERE!

[NoCal Boy]

It appears TVG is now playing ball with Youbet to a degree. Youbet is carrying the NJ signals after an agreement was reached earlier this week according to the Meadowlands website. Youbet already had the right for 8.5% but said no, so this is the first time I can recall that TVG actually came to the table and negotiated (presumably) a lower rate. Why else would there have had to be an agreement finalized between TVG and Youbet?

[linrom1]

When TVG's exclusivity will lapse, Youbet, AmericaTAB and others will have to negotiate directly with racetracks. There won't by any intermediary like TVG to act as a go between and smooth out the edges. If you think that things are bad now, just wait to see what happens then. You'll need a guide to figure out who has got what and Federal intermediation to settle the impasse. By Federal Law, offtrack sites get nothing unless horsemen agree to it and that's just for starters.

Ironically, it would not surprise me if of all these Internet wagering sites disappear without TVG.

[NoCal Boy]

lol!!!

[Indulto]

... hey, the guys over in Iraq can't bet either.That thought crosses my mind every day.

[Pace Cap'n]

hey, the guys over in Iraq can't bet either.



Hadn't really thought about that. Are you sure?

[Ron]

Not while they're shooting, but they do have access to the internet other times.

[bobphilo]

[QUOTE=skate]
hey, the guys over in Iraq can't bet either.
QUOTE]

That's the least of their problems.

[Dave Schwartz]

hey, the guys over in Iraq can't bet either.

I believe "gambling sites" are blocked.

[highnote]

Maybe TrackNet Media was developed as a buffer against the new owner of NYRA? Maybe this is a defensive move -- or offensive -- or preemptive --depending on how you look at it?

When the new NYRA franchise is awarded and slots are online, the new franchisee is going to have cash to burn. Maybe the new NYRA will start their own wagering site and try to do exactly what TrackNet Media is doing?

[Indulto]

Maybe TrackNet Media was developed as a buffer against the new owner of NYRA? Maybe this is a defensive move -- or offensive -- or preemptive --depending on how you look at it?

When the new NYRA franchise is awarded and slots are online, the new franchisee is going to have cash to burn. Maybe the new NYRA will start their own wagering site and try to do exactly what TrackNet Media is doing?SJ,
I recently noticed that new NYRA-1 accounts are available to Connecticut residents as well as New York residents. Why CT and no other states? You've been saying you can't bet on the Internet in CT. As NYRA now awaits such approval in NY, will it also need approval in CT?

[garyoz]

[QUOTE=When the new NYRA franchise is awarded and slots are online, the new franchisee is going to have cash to burn. Maybe the new NYRA will start their own wagering site and try to do exactly what TrackNet Media is doing?[/QUOTE]

I'd think so. Or at least structure deals for their signal so that they are making the same amount of money. Probably have quid pro quo deals with other tracks that provide a formula for swapping signals. The TVG model is under assault--IMHO the future of horse racing video is IP streaming.

[highnote]

SJ,
I recently noticed that new NYRA-1 accounts are available to Connecticut residents as well as New York residents. Why CT and no other states? You've been saying you can't bet on the Internet in CT. As NYRA now awaits such approval in NY, will it also need approval in CT?


Good question. The CT Attorney General seems intent on stopping the expansion of gambling. It's ironic that he is worried about a few people betting on horses over the internet given that CT has the largest casino in the Northern Hemisphere -- Foxwoods.

[garyoz]

Good question. The CT Attorney General seems intent on stopping the expansion of gambling. It's ironic that he is worried about a few people betting on horses over the internet given that CT has the largest casino in the Northern Hemisphere -- Foxwoods.

Intent on protecting the casino interests is more like it.

[camzrazr]

Let's see: for years, constant, inane personal chatter during post parades, usually in bad American English. The black guy trying to convince us he was really black, with out-of-date hip-hop jargon. The girls made up to look like they had second jobs, at night. Some of the boys made up to look like five-year olds, with multiple, grease-shined cowlicks. The commentator who owned a grade one horse, whose trainer was one of the great drug suspects on that coast, in concert with unstinting praise heaped on notorious horse-indifferent (if not horse-hating) drug trainers all over the country.
And in an industry with serious family- and community-destructive addictive gambling problems among a minority of its bettors, the mope from Minnesota tagging every other line with "send it in...send it in," along with an unending parade of shill exotic bets.
TVG, for whatever short-term, profit-hungry reasons, started all the madness of exclusive contracts, bettors-be-damned. That they should now fade into the sunset would be a rare and wonderful example of an entity getting exactly what it deserves. Here's hoping....
(And, yes, to be fair, they did and do some very good work in a very difficult climate/landscape.)

[PaceAdvantage]

(And, yes, to be fair, they did and do some very good work in a very difficult climate/landscape.)

HAH! So glad found the time to throw that very brief 'aside' in there....

[highnote]

Intent on protecting the casino interests is more like it.


Excellent point! :ThmbUp: I'm always looking for ammunition when I write him letters telling him how wrong his actions are!! :ThmbUp:

[pandy]

You can use www.ibetmohegan.com which is Pocono Downs in Pa. They take most of the tracks but the website isn't that great.

[TonyK@HSH]

You can use www.ibetmohegan.com which is Pocono Downs in Pa. They take most of the tracks but the website isn't that great.


The Mohegan site looks just like www.ebetusa.com which would be another alternative. Ebetusa also takes most tracks and supplies limited video.

TonyK

[samyn on the green]

Intent on protecting the casino interests is more like it.Very insightful post. The Conn AG along with the interest of the people is bought and paid for.

[Valuist]

The whole parimutuels wagering model is broken. All signal providers should be proportionally responsible for value of all purses and portion of racetrack operating expenses and TV broadcast costs based on the portion of the overall pool that they account for. They can keep any excess as profit. Let us see how long these parasites would stay in business.

TVG signed an exclusive marketing contract with NTRA in late nineties and spend considerable amount of money to bring wagering into your living room at a time when racing was collapsing. The amount of goodwill that TVG has contributed to racing is immeasurable. They have increased national and international racing exposure where racing industry itself failed to do so for decades.

There's no "goodwill" in the exclusivity contracts that TVG was having tracks sign. Now, everyone is opting out. Gonna be interesting w/CD, AP, Crc all going to HRTV. Supposedly they are going to lose Los Al for nighttime as well. They might as well move to New Jersey because that's all they're going to have left. TVG made their bed; now they can lay in it.

[samyn on the green]

This is a good post. TVG does not get the credit they deserve. TVG single handedly took racing from 12 hours a year on TV to 5,000 hours a year. For years I was a fringe horseplayer. Going once or twice a year for thw Belmont or Wood Mem. TVG brought the game to my living room and now I am a full throttle handicapping fanatic. Yes some of the hosts are annoying and yes I think they push too many exotic bets, but TVG must be given credit for taking action for bringing the game to the masses others rested on their laurels. The whole parimutuels wagering model is broken. All signal providers should be proportionally responsible for value of all purses and portion of racetrack operating expenses and TV broadcast costs based on the portion of the overall pool that they account for. They can keep any excess as profit. Let us see how long these parasites would stay in business.

TVG signed an exclusive marketing contract with NTRA in late nineties and spend considerable amount of money to bring wagering into your living room at a time when racing was collapsing. The amount of goodwill that TVG has contributed to racing is immeasurable. They have increased national and international racing exposure where racing industry itself failed to do so for decades.

[garyoz]

Excellent points--but not enough new fans have been attracted. The tracks appear to want out of the model which will probably mean no TVG. Don't know how the tracks will plan to drive players to their web sites in order to wager. TVG is the "face" and organizing force for horse racing, if it does go away who will supply the narrative for the industry? The result will just increase the downward spiral and fragmentation. But, the industry has always lacked vision.

The major trend that has occurred since TVG was launched is the dominance of the rebate shops and the whales. So, I guess the degree of their influence can be debated.

[NoCal Boy]

TVG should combine with Youbet in some manner and create one giant ADW of over $1B in handle. Work with tracks to have manageable signal fees and take advantage of distribution that Magns and Churchill can only dream about. Interesting to see Youbet and TVG working together in NJ and at EVG.

[real quiet]

I saw this linked on another forum. I guess it is not a done deal that youbet will have CD or the Derby available for wagering;


http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070423/BUSINESS/70423048

[mhrussell]

I saw this linked on another forum. I guess it is not a done deal that youbet will have CD or the Derby available for wagering;


http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070423/BUSINESS/70423048

I just received this reply from YouBet.com Customer Service:

"Thank you for contacting Youbet.com.

Please be advise the issue with the survey issue has been escalated. No, we were unable to reach an agreement with Churchill Downs (TrackNet) to let us offer you the Derby this year. In return for letting us carry the Kentucky Derby, Churchill wanted us to drop races that other services carry for the remainder of the racing season. We didn’t think customers would like the trade of one race vs. entire meets at top tracks like Aqueduct, Belmont, Saratoga, Del Mar, Santa Anita, Keeneland, etc. We will carry the Preakness and Belmont Stakes, however.

Should you require further assistance, please reply to this email or contact Player Services at 1-888-968-2388. Representatives are available daily from 7 am - 10 pm PT, to provide you with excellent customer service.

Thank you for choosing Youbet.com*."

[highnote]

Boycott Derby wagering is my suggestion.

I wouldn't mind it if I didn't bet the Derby. Like Jim "The Hat" Bradshaw says, "It's just another race."

When this industry learns to treat it's customers with a little respect then this customer can support the industry. Until then, what customer wants to be treated like shit?

[Valuist]

Boycott Derby wagering is my suggestion.

I wouldn't mind it if I didn't bet the Derby. Like Jim "The Hat" Bradshaw says, "It's just another race."

When this industry learns to treat it's customers with a little respect then this customer can support the industry. Until then, what customer wants to be treated like shit?

Very tempting. I probably will bet the Derby but that will be it for Churchill. Arlington, which I've been playing for 25 years, also will be boycotted.

[highnote]

This just in from BRISBET:

They say they that developments in ADW environment have forced them to make some decisions that will affect our ability to wager on certain racetracks.

No one forced them to make any decisions. They chose to make those decisions. Nice try with the spin, though.

What did MEC/CDSN say to AmericaTab that "forced" them to make some of these decisions?

See the full comment from BRISBET below:
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Dear Customer,

Despite AmericaTAB's best efforts to retain the most
comprehensive racing content possible, recent developments
in the account wagering environment have forced some
business decisions that will soon affect your ability to
wager on certain racetracks.

Effective Thursday, May 3, there will be changes to the
AmericaTAB racetrack lineup. These changes are due to a
recent decision to enter into an agreement with the newly-
formed TrackNet Media Group LLC, a joint-venture between
Churchill Downs, Inc., and Magna Entertainment Corp.
AmericaTAB recently became the first account wagering
company to sign a content agreement with TrackNet Media,
making it a preferred TrackNet partner and giving our
customers access to wagering on all Churchill Downs and
Magna racetracks.

At the same time, AmericaTAB elected not to renew a sub-
licensing agreement to allow AmericaTAB to carry racetracks
whose internet and phone wagering rights are exclusive to
another Advanced Deposit Wagering company. We believe this
decision will enhance the ability of the horse racing
industry to become an open and competitive content provider
to all sources and will best serve the horseplayer, which
remains our main concern.

At the time of this writing, effective on May 3, the
following racetracks will not be available for wagering
through AmericaTAB for the month of May:

Through May 31, 2007:
Domestic:
Calder Race Course
Emerald Downs
Hollywood Park
Arlington Park (until early Aug.)
Los Alamitos
New Jersey (Med, Mth)
New York Racing Association (Belmont Park)
Prairie Meadows
International:Japan Racing

This is a fluid situation, and one that could change
significantly in the coming weeks and months. We regret
that these business developments and decisions will affect
you, and again, please be assured that AmericaTab continues
to explore all possible means to regaining product as
quickly as possible.

Our goal remains to offer our customers more racing product
than any other account wagering company, along with
maintaining the best customer service in the industry.

Also, keep in mind that we have an upcoming promotion
during Kentucky Derby week. For all active customers, we
are giving away a commemorative Mint Julep Derby glass
during April 29 - May 5. Simply make an EZMoney deposit of
$250 during that timeframe, or wager $499 or more on the
Churchill Downs signal to qualify.

Should you have any questions regarding the upcoming
schedule changes, please feel free to contact our Customer
Service department at 1-800-597-5661. We appreciate your
patience and understanding.
Sincerely,

Ted Mudge
President
BrisBET.com

[Steve 'StatMan']

This just in from BRISBET:

They say they that developments in ADW environment have forced them to make some decisions that will affect our ability to wager on certain racetracks.

No one forced them to make any decisions. They chose to make those decisions. Nice try with the spin, though.

What did MEC/CDSN say to AmericaTab that "forced" them to make some of these decisions?

They're dropping the TVG exclusive track signals per TrackNet's demands, the ones that YouBet refused to drop in exchange for the KY Derby Signal (see mhrussell's post #63).

[Indulto]

This just in from BRISBET:

They say they that developments in ADW environment have forced them to make some decisions that will affect our ability to wager on certain racetracks.

No one forced them to make any decisions. They chose to make those decisions. Nice try with the spin, though.

What did MEC/CDSN say to AmericaTab that "forced" them to make some of these decisions?

See the full comment from BRISBET below:
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... At the time of this writing, effective on May 3, the
following racetracks will not be available for wagering
through AmericaTAB for the month of May:

... Arlington Park (until early Aug.)Arlington Million Day is Aug. 11. Will TVG still have it for that day?

[skate]

[QUOTE=skate]
hey, the guys over in Iraq can't bet either.
QUOTE]

That's the least of their problems.


bob;
that'll be the point, then.


thanks

[highnote]

I see Bloodhorse has an article about Twinspires.com being ready on May 2. Will customers be able to deposit to their Twinspires account in time to bet the Derby. ?

[GoBabyGo]

I see Bloodhorse has an article about Twinspires.com being ready on May 2. Will customers be able to deposit to their Twinspires account in time to bet the Derby. ?


yeah, in all these great states:

TwinSpires is currently authorized to accept wagers from customers in the following states: Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, South Dakota, Washington and Wyoming. TwinSpires customers in Florida may place wagers by phone only.


i hope all those big bettors in south dakota make up for the bets these guys pissed away not letting other people take their tracks how about a 25% cut in purses lookin. :lol:

[bobphilo]

Originally Posted by bobphilo
[QUOTE=skate]
hey, the guys over in Iraq can't bet either.
QUOTE]

That's the least of their problems.
[QUOTE=bobphilo]


bob;
that'll be the point, then.


thanks

Point taken.