where does it 'all'come from?

[skate]

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since the economy is poor, according to the press, polls, news reporters.
and since big business is pro republican and the little guy is being left behind economically and not getting enough help from the peolpe that do have the money.

how do the democrats raise so much money, and from whom?

hollywood would be one goood source. and the guys that coined the phrase
'nappy-hos'. i understand they do have money.

but how does hillary get more donations $31 million, than the top three republicans, combined, $29 million.

factual poll

[ljb]

Getting scared ?

[Dan Montilion]

Think the 3 year old class is weak? Take a look at that group...

[skate]

Getting scared ?

:jump: :lol: :rolleyes:

she's been my choice for years, i can't wait .

but i8f you think itill be easy, just you wait.

hey, you got uncle george keeping 30% of voters and with that 30%, Rudy would only have to come up with 21% and we'd be laughing no more.

what now?

[hcap]

He ain't my uncle george !!!!

[skate]

woooo, i forgot to include Hicups:faint: .

im still working out just how to restore you to society.

you gotta practice your math. promise?

[hcap]

Ok, will do.

But you have to practice your
1-writing
2-spelling
3-reading comprehension
4-grasp on reality
5-ability not to make a racket as you nod your head and the loose screws richochet.

[delayjf]

Hcap,

He asks a very compelling question. Your distain for Corp America is no secret, so how could you justify your support for Hillary or Obama knowing the extent of their corp backing?

Don't you find it odd that a major contributor to her campaign (George Soros) is also a major shareholder in Halliburton??

[skate]

but Delay;

thats an awful stain your putting on her and all being at the same time. go easy.

give her time 'for make-up'.

[JustRalph]

she still can't win the south.............no matter how much she spends

[GaryG]

she still can't win the south.............no matter how much she spendsI don't think osama would run too strong south of the M-D line either...:)

[hcap]

I don't necessarily support either clinton or obama. Actually I would like to remove guys like soros from the entire process. I do support public funding only and full disclosure.

However, corps have been involved heavily in both parties. Whoever makes the highest value connections usually gets the prize. Public support adds to the mix. Repugs have their sugar daddies as well. But I doubt soros is the key here.

Could be dems are just more popular than the repugs? Six years of bush fatique is more than enough to move both the corps and public into the dems corner

[ljb]

she still can't win the south.............no matter how much she spends
The thing I like most about her is how she riles up the misogynists be they from the south, north or anywhere.

[Tom]

Funny, when the repubs rake in big bucks it is a bad thing, but when dems to it, it is a good thing.

Could this be thier secret corporate sponsor? All things that spin! :lol:
http://www.nidec.co.jp/english/index.html

[PaceAdvantage]

Scared? I couldn't be more elated at this point ljb.....you guys have been making this whole Presidential Election thing way too easy lately....

My guess is the Ivory Tower air is way too thin for folks on the far-left to engage in practical thinking....thus they bring forth candidates like Kerry (couldn't beat GWB), HC and BO.

If you guys had any brains, you'd put big Al up there...at least he'd have a fighting chance given all the goodwill he's gotten from the folks who bought into this "Save the Planet" thing....but then again, when you get down to brass tacks, the environment has never been a strong platform either....

Any way you slice it ljb, a Republican is going to be in the WH once again. All they gots to do is put a little "scare" into the American public, and they'll run to Rudy in a heartbeat....and if it ain't Rudy, then whoever the Republican candidate may be....

To put it in terms you might be able to understand, you used the term "Anyone but Bush" during 2004. When it comes to national security, a tweak here, and a tweak there....a good ol' negative campaign ad, and it will be "Anyone but a Democrat" for the White House in 2008 when the folks head to the polls.

Mark these words buddy.

And by all means, send ol' Nancy to more countries on the state-sponsor of terrorism list. But next time, please tell her to don a full burqa....it will be a bigger hit on the left.

[Tom]

.....and ask her to wear one of those "palestinian vests" while she's at it!

[ljb]

Scared? I couldn't be more elated at this point ljb.....you guys have been making this whole Presidential Election thing way too easy lately....

My guess is the Ivory Tower air is way too thin for folks on the far-left to engage in practical thinking....thus they bring forth candidates like Kerry (couldn't beat GWB), HC and BO.

If you guys had any brains, you'd put big Al up there...at least he'd have a fighting chance given all the goodwill he's gotten from the folks who bought into this "Save the Planet" thing....but then again, when you get down to brass tacks, the environment has never been a strong platform either....

Any way you slice it ljb, a Republican is going to be in the WH once again. All they gots to do is put a little "scare" into the American public, and they'll run to Rudy in a heartbeat....and if it ain't Rudy, then whoever the Republican candidate may be....

To put it in terms you might be able to understand, you used the term "Anyone but Bush" during 2004. When it comes to national security, a tweak here, and a tweak there....a good ol' negative campaign ad, and it will be "Anyone but a Democrat" for the White House in 2008 when the folks head to the polls.

Mark these words buddy.

And by all means, send ol' Nancy to more countries on the state-sponsor of terrorism list. But next time, please tell her to don a full burqa....it will be a bigger hit on the left.
Whatever?

[skate]

I don't necessarily support either clinton or obama. Actually I would like to remove guys like soros from the entire process. I do support public funding only and full disclosure.

However, corps have been involved heavily in both parties. Whoever makes the highest value connections usually gets the prize. Public support adds to the mix. Repugs have their sugar daddies as well. But I doubt soros is the key here.

Could be dems are just more popular than the repugs? Six years of bush fatique is more than enough to move both the corps and public into the dems corner

could be that the democrats had more contributions (as in MONEY) during the last pres. election ALSO. Fact.

hicupps, you seem headed for self distruction. somehow, i do not think simple facts sink into your complicated brain.

we'll pray

[hcap]

Same source as your original graph. Updated
Dome big donors ID'ed
Looks like romney outdoes clinton on financial corp donors
However,

" Mrs. Clinton was the biggest winner on Wall Street. Her top source of contributions included Morgan Stanley ($77,000), Goldman Sachs ($63,000) and Citigroup ($63,000)."

"Wall Street has historically been the largest single source of political contributions, so candidates who can successfully raise money there often have more resources to fund their campaigns than other rivals. Donations from financial-services firms could be even more important during the 2008 presidential campaign as employees of hedge funds and private-equity firms begin opening up their wallets.

Indeed, each of the top 10 sources for political donations in the first quarter were financial-services companies and their employees, according to PoliticalMoneyLine, a nonpartisan research firm that tracks campaign contributions.

Goldman Sachs Group Inc. employees donated a total of $437,000 to the main presidential candidates, making the company the No. 1 corporate contributor. Goldman employees gave $131,000 to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a Republican; $120,000 to Illinois Democratic Sen. Barack Obama; $63,000 to Mrs. Clinton; and $52,000 to former North Carolina Democratic Sen. John Edwards."

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB117677059183372030-XkpdJT_w6SYvcZHSDuF7bdvrd40_20080416.html?mod=tff_ main_tff_top

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/images/NA-AM611_WALLPO_20070416192834.gif

Don't know about last presidential race.
Do you have stats?

[Lefty]

lbj, misogynists? Anybody doesn't like Hillary is a misogynist now? The name calling never stops with youse guys. Maybe we just don't like her because of her politics, hmmm? Guess if we don't like Obama we're racists, eh what?
BTW, Hillary will raise taxes if elected but the irony is Geo. Soros keeps most of his money offshore so that it can't be taxed.

[kenwoodallpromos]

"http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/search.asp?txtCID=N00000019&name=%28all%29&employ=%28any+employer%29&state=%28all%29&zip=%28any+zip%29&submit=OK&amt=c&sort=A"
Sevewral top donating companies are involved in construction and start-ups in Palestine and Jordan/Iraq.
Do not expect her to end the US in the Middle East!

[kenwoodallpromos]

"NANCY PELOSI (D-CA) (over $10k)
Top Contributors
1 Occidental Petroleum $17,000
2 Kleiner, Perkins et al $16,700
3 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $15,000
3 Sheet Metal Workers Union $15,000
5 Time Warner $13,200
6 AT&T Inc $13,000

Also lots of unions. Top= Gore's oil cpmany!!

[skate]

Same source as your original graph. Updated
Dome big donors ID'ed
Looks like romney outdoes clinton on financial corp donors
However,

" Mrs. Clinton was the biggest winner on Wall Street. Her top source of contributions included Morgan Stanley ($77,000), Goldman Sachs ($63,000) and Citigroup ($63,000)."



Goldman Sachs Group Inc. employees donated a total of $437,000 to the main presidential candidates, making the company the No. 1 corporate contributor. Goldman employees gave $131,000 to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a Republican; $120,000 to Illinois Democratic Sen. Barack Obama; $63,000 to Mrs. Clinton; and $52,000 to former North Carolina Democratic Sen. John Edwards."

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB117677059183372030-XkpdJT_w6SYvcZHSDuF7bdvrd40_20080416.html?mod=tff_ main_tff_top

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/images/NA-AM611_WALLPO_20070416192834.gif

Don't know about last presidential race.
Do you have stats?


:ThmbUp: this is great work done by el hcap. hey if the market drops 500 points and my horse comes in 12th out of 11, i consider this to be A Good Day, indeed.

of coarse, we have some work yet to be done. if we could find the source for the remainder of money(total contributions) . ie. we have a wide (liberal) margine between Romeny and Hill.

your figures are great, but they do raise more interest in the yet wider margine between these people.

that is, for Hill to surpass Romney, in the amount indicated by her overall donations, she is making up a lot of ground (from whom?).

at least, so far, we can see that the Employees (in this economy) are able to come up with a lot of Extra Money.

i'll get back (i think) with the figures on last election.
i might have posted them here, not sure. of coarse the Rep. had only one cannibal, while the Dems. had many, but the money given to both parties was higher on the Dems,. side.

[skate]

ok ok ok , figures rounded, but not even close.

do ya want em?


http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/index_2004.asp


here's Skate-ly figures for the 04 election:
Cool guys;
Bush-367, million


thugs;
Kerry-328, million
Lieberman-19,
Clark- 29,
Dean- 52,
Edward- 33,
others- 40,


Result:

Rep, got $367, million

Dems, got $501, million

Problem, since "They" said the economy was so poor, and since "T"hey" said
the Rep are for the rich, the Dems for the poor (those in need).
Question, where do they come up with the $130, million more than the rich guys. i mean, is it from China or what?

Bottom line, let's, at least be honest and go from there.:kiss:

[Tom]

No race involved wtih Obama....he is a liberal, and that alone is enought to hate the guy.
The more he talks, the dumber he sounds.
It was only a matter of time....his campaign will be needing Viagra by the fall.

[skate]

not being disagreeable, here.

but, we can't forget the close field he is in.

sorry, this is why i do not vote.

i bequeath my vote to the ever so true, turner around of opinion, my friend 'hcap'.

[Tom]

:faint::faint::faint:

oh, skate.
oh......no.......

[skate]

just kidding!!!

[Tom]

Whew!

[skate]

Funny, when the repubs rake in big bucks it is a bad thing, but when dems to it, it is a good thing.



just once, i'd like to here that from the Big Media people.


:lol: , woo, just in time!!! on the kidders.