well , there goes another liberal

[skate]

Imus gets s... canned, poor guy. no more radio either.

i gotta admit, he was one of my favorites.

i really believe hes positive towards minorities and for the good of humanity.

[ljb]

Imus a liberal ????

[skate]

well, with somewhat, tung in check(cheek).


but let me say, he was (in a big way) a Kerry fan.
also, harold ford , Lieberman, and very much a fan of the late 'Martin Luther King". many more names can be added, John Mccain, but never "the Boss" uncle george or Chainsaw Cheney, never .

SO , lib it bees, for mees.

and i like the guy.

most posters, it seems, will give opinions, and know nothing about which they speak.

[GaryG]

You got that right skate....he was a big time supporter of McCain in 96 and Kerry in 2004. Now that the justice brothers control the media who knows what will be next. Hardened my attitude though, and yes that WAS possible.

[ljb]

well i am glad to see you guys supporting Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. The two driving forces in Imus's firing.

[Show Me the Wire]

ljb:

The end does not justify the means. I do not mind seeing Imus off the air, but I mind that it was accomplished through censorship and intolerance. Therefore, I do not support either Jackson or Sharpton.

How is the pupppy?

[Tom]

The "Just Us" Brothers - the twins of deception? The Gemini Jerks?
Al and Jesse? :lol:

I had a bowl of Fruit Loops this morning that had more integrity than these two dipsticks combined. When I poured on the milk, the moral content zoomed past them both.


Yesterday - Imus raised a million bucks for charity.
Al Sharpton still did not apologize tot he Duke white boys for his racial comments with no evidence whatsoever.
Jackson tried to skirt the issue by saying, well, they didn't rape her, but the paid to watch her dance nekked. Jesse, forget about your love child from a staffer, you hippocrit?

[ljb]

The puppy is fine thanks to a couple here who's advise was followed. My comment here was just questioning Imus being labeled a liberal. He was fired for monetary reasons. I also just found out the root of his exposure came from "Media Matters. org" . Others flagged by this group are: Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Glen Beck and Sean Hannity. Hardly a group of liberals.
Al Sharpton is funny. Jesse Jackson has been effective in getting hostages released. Imus being canned does not bother me. I was not a big fan of his show.

[GaryG]

Imus is in no way a conservative....he is a maverick. He has plenty of friends in Washington from both sides.

[melman]

ljb
You find Al Sharpton funny?? Try telling that to Seven Pagones, who won a civil judgment from Sharpton over the Twana Brawley case. Sharpton would neither apologize nor pay out the judgment against him that Pagones won. Maybe you have forgotten that Sharpton and two cohorts used an unbalanced young girl to boost their profiles, at the expense of a man whose life they virtually ruined for no reason. I would hardly call that "funny".

[ljb]

I was not referring to the complete Al Sharpton, just the one I see in the debates and on talk shows. Do not want to get into debate regarding characteristics and or personality flaws of individuals. Watch this guy on tv, he comes up with some good one liners.

[PaceAdvantage]

Do not want to get into debate regarding characteristics and or personality flaws of individuals.

Except ones with an (R) next to their names, and/or anyone in the Bush Adminstration, right LJB? You're a riot.

[ljb]

Ones with an (R) require no debate. Thanks for the compliment.

[Lefty]

His last post proves what an open minded guy lbj is.

[skate]

questioning Imus being labeled a liberal. He was fired for monetary reasons. I also just found out the root of his exposure came from "Media Matters. org" . Others flagged by this group are: Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Glen Beck and Sean Hannity. Hardly a group of liberals.



"he was fired for Monetary reason" , not really( because he was fired for what he said), but , what does that have to do with the fact that he was very much "pro Kerry", you see, that was the original point.

if he does not say what he said, then he does not get fired.

i just hate seeing you go 'off track' by such an extent.

gets funny, when you try to put him with Limbaugh etc.:D .

[ljb]

Sean Hannity has come to the defense of Imus. Hardily a liberal. Imus also supported Santorium. Again I ask, Imus a liberal ?

[lsbets]

Sean Hannity has come to the defense of Imus. Hardily a liberal. Imus also supported Santorium. Again I ask, Imus a liberal ?

Alan Colmes also came to Imus' defense, and Imus supported Kerry. So what?

Imus, from what I could tell, was probably like most people - somewhere in the middle. He was a very convenient, non politiacl target to use as a test run to see if the strategy of purging the airwaves of views contray to the left would work or not. Now that the strategy has proven succesful, those on the left who despise freedom and desire a form of "progressive authoritarianism" will be going after Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, etc .......

[skate]

Sean Hannity has come to the defense of Imus. Hardily a liberal. Imus also supported Santorium. Again I ask, Imus a liberal ?

come on, you keep going away from 'context' here.

i guess, i really thought i should have included all the liberal kowtowers.
take my word, im an Imus fan, i know more about Imus, than those that do not listen to him, simple.

Gregory, Russert, Schaffer, Dodd, Ricardson (Gov), Fienmen, Ford (Tn), His Wife, his brother and yes, he also liked people that were respectable.


he did not care for UncleGeorge nor BigDick Cheney.

now...what is it, you want from the skate?

Nifong, another liberal

[delayjf]

Sharpton would neither apologize nor pay out the judgment against him that Pagones won.

I trust Pagones slapped him with a nice big fact lein (plus interest) :jump:

[Lefty]

Lbj, Imus not a lib. You're hilarious. He was invited to MC a party for Bill back during Bill's Presidency. He has given airtime to libs to promote their books and campaigns. Not a liberal. LOL

[Lefty]

lbj, get your facts strght. Hannity has not defended Imus or his comments. He has asked where do Jackson and Sharpton have the moral authority to demand Imus or anyone else be fired.

[ljb]

spin, spin, spin. I still think you should take gonzo's job.

[ljb]

Alan Colmes also came to Imus' defense, and Imus supported Kerry. So what?

Imus, from what I could tell, was probably like most people - somewhere in the middle. He was a very convenient, non politiacl target to use as a test run to see if the strategy of purging the airwaves of views contray to the left would work or not. Now that the strategy has proven succesful, those on the left who despise freedom and desire a form of "progressive authoritarianism" will be going after Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, etc .......
I hope you are right.

[Lefty]

I cite a fact and you call it spin. Prove it, son.

[Lefty]

lbj, did i read that right. You are ok if they go after Limbaugh and Hannity? You libs get scarier all the time. Guess you're cool with Rosie though, huh?

[ljb]

Yes Lefty, You read it right. Those Hatemongers should be banned from the airwaves.

[delayjf]

I say we go after the Un-American amoral socialist perverts first.

[Lefty]

Yes Lefty, You read it right. Those Hatemongers should be banned from the airwaves.
Another liberal for free speech. Are you including Rosie and Al Franken and Sharpton and Jackson among the hatemongers?
lbj, download a copy of the Constitution. You won't have to read far. It's number one.

[Tom]

Anyone against free speech should be banned !!!

[delayjf]

Don't you just love it when they talk about how patriotic they are?? :lol: :lol:

[boxcar]

I hope you are right.

Of course, you do. At heart you're a facist and would dearly love to see all opposing viewpoints to Liberalism shut down on the airwaves.

Boxcar

[46zilzal]

Every point of view needs to have a spectrum of positions, otherwise no one ever advances.

[Greyfox]

Every point of view needs to have a spectrum of positions, otherwise no one ever advances.

Ooh. Marxism views the progress of humanity towards goals is accelerated by human conflict. i.e. "Progress through conflict."
That doesn't sound like you 46z.

Montaigne said
"The most universal quality is diversity." I get it. That's what you're saying.

[skate]

Every point of view needs to have a spectrum of positions, otherwise no one ever advances.

ok sure enough.

so now we proceed;
to Induction, from particular facts.
and Deduction, from general ideas, which were given and taken away, from THE facts..

[46zilzal]

I am not quoting anyone. All points of view on every point need be expressed.

When I was a junior I went to see the movie Triumph of the Will and heard George Lincoln Rockwell (then head of the American Nazi Party) speak. He was full of hate and lies, but I appreciated the fact that he had a forum so the audience had a first hand chance of judging for THEMSELVES what that fellow and his followers were all about.

How can one understand something for themselves without hearing all points of view?

[Greyfox]

How can one understand something for themselves without hearing all points of view?

Top notch question 46z. We agree.

[delayjf]

Yes Lefty, You read it right. Those Hatemongers should be banned from the airwaves.

How can one understand something for themselves without hearing all points of view?

I think we have the potiential for a great celebrity death match here (PA Style)

Tom you bring the popcorn
Lefty you bring the pizza
I'll bring the beer. :lol: :lol:

[skate]

I am not quoting anyone. All points of view on every point need be expressed.


How can one understand something for themselves without hearing all points of view?


ok fine, , we should include All facts, but because of the mush, we should fine tune.

its the Mush overcoming the correct point (fact) ,= problem.

so, hear All points, take All points into consideration. but this does not always happen.

[ljb]

I think we have the potiential for a great celebrity death match here (PA Style)

Tom you bring the popcorn
Lefty you bring the pizza
I'll bring the beer. :lol: :lol:
Not gonna happen. I agree with 46. But I would still like to see those hatemongers taken off the air.

[46zilzal]

Hate mongers are TRYING to get your emotions in high gear (remember Ilia Nastase trying to keep his opponents angry?) so you blunt your logic circuits. An old ploy.

[lsbets]

Yes Lefty, You read it right. Those Hatemongers should be banned from the airwaves.

As I said - "progressive authoritarianism". The left in America does not believe in our most basic freedoms. They get scared of those who succeed, so they take snippets out of context to label folks "hatemongers" and say they should be banned. The modern evolution of Stalinism is the fringe left embodied by ljb.

Un-American certainly applies to those who do not believe in free speech.

[46zilzal]

As I said - "progressive authoritarianism". The left in America does not believe in our most basic freedoms.

Typecasting is akin to racial profiling: prone to sample error.

[lsbets]

Typecasting is akin to racial profiling: prone to sample error.

Not in this case - in 24 hours ljb has advocated an abolition of free speech because he doesn't like what others say and has also advocated doing away with the 2nd amendment.

When Bush said they hate our freedoms, I didn't realize he was talking about fringe liberals.

[46zilzal]

Folks can rant about anything from any street corner. Fine with me.

[Tom]

Not gonna happen. I agree with 46. But I would still like to see those hatemongers taken off the air.

I'd be happy if you critics would cite an example of two of hate speech by Rush, O'Riely, or Hannity. Just calling them hate mongers dones't make it so.
Now, you want hate talk, check out Airhead America - particulary Randi Rhodes. Frankly, I say let them all talk, Rosies, and the little fat bimbos, and Knucklehead Ed too. Nothing makes them looks more ridiculous than themsleves. :lol:

[skate]

i have reservations about where this country is headed, from a working mans outlook.

but not so from the lips of limbaugh, since the early 90s, hes had Nothing but positive thoughts stated about the USA.
Riley is right behind.

Rosie is negative, simple, and Hollywood is negative to an extent and Jesse J., Al S. are too too negative. they can not , will not, admit to the very positive side of 'future outlook'.

[ljb]

Limbaugh and Riley do not have the working man's interest at heart.

[GaryG]

The operative word is "working" as opposed to "welfare"...

[Tom]

Limbaugh and Riley do not have the working man's interest at heart.
Oh, contrare.
They have the essence of working men's hearts - conservatism. The ability to take responsibility for one's self, one's actions, to not rely on others, to be able to fend for one's self.
What, you thought a UNION has the working man's best interest at heart? :lol:
The closest they come to that is they have interest on his DUES at heart :lol:


Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.
Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime.
Give a union man a fish and he will shut down the docks on you. Demand cole slaw, lemon, extra butter for his roll. :bang:

[GaryG]

The working folk in my area are almost unfailingly republican. You do count farmers and ranchers, right lbj? Democrats are mighty scarce. The "new" demo party has nothing for the old style Dixiecrats. If you are old enough you remember when it was called the "solid south". Pretty solid on the red side now.

[skate]

Limbaugh and Riley do not have the working man's interest at heart.

so now, you've limited your idea as to just who is it that has "working man's interest AT Heart"?


aside from, skate and Jim Cramers...

[Lefty]

Limbaugh and O'Riley are the ESSENCE of the american dream. They both have "bootstrapped" themselves into millionaires. Why, lbj, would you say such a nutty thing. You know nothing of the two.

[Tom]

Now Lefty, you know the real American spirit is in guys like Ted and Kerry - self made men! :lol:

[delayjf]

and my favorite Rockerfeller