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rusrious
02-28-2007, 10:57 AM
Hey Folks, I have a dumb Q.. Can someone tell me the formula to figure out Boxing prices? Like say for instance, I want 5 horses boxed for TRIF... How would I figure that out, or is there a chart that I can download somewhere...


Thanks, and good luck today.



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the Bid
02-28-2007, 11:07 AM
www.edbain.com has a betting calculator available for download.

BIG RED
02-28-2007, 11:12 AM
This was just over in the handicapping section

http://www.kimstarr.org/misc/tools%26utilities.html

pic6vic
02-28-2007, 11:50 AM
There is a simple way

Take the number of horses to box(5). Take The exotic bet (trifecta 3 places)

Since this is a bet with 3 places you take 5X4X3= 60 combinations

superfecta 4 places 5X4X3X2 = 120 COMBOS

exacats 2 places 5X4 = 20 COMB

The explanation is not very good, but the math is simple for all combination when boxing.

rusrious
02-28-2007, 02:36 PM
Simple enough, that is exactly what I needed, thank-you sir..
So, there will always be a 4 there, like 5*(4)*3,?

I got it..


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K9Pup
02-28-2007, 04:58 PM
Simple enough, that is exactly what I needed, thank-you sir..
So, there will always be a 4 there, like 5*(4)*3,?

I got it..


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Only in superfecta wagers. No reason why you can't box 3 in a tri or exacta. For the tri the cost would be 3*2*1 = 6. For the exacta it would be 3*2 = 6 also.

You can also think of a box bet as a BIG wheel. Box 1234 in a super is just like the wheel
1234
1234
1234
1234

In this case you have 4 ways to pick the winner....
In the case where you have the winner, you now only have 3 ways to pick place
And of course you now only have 2 ways to pick 3rd.
Which leaves 1 way to pick 4th.

So the cost of a 4 horse super box would be 4*3*2*1 = 24

Greyfox
02-28-2007, 05:10 PM
For vertical exotics, where X = # of runners in the top line that you have chosen to box

Exactas X x (X -1)
Tris X x (X -1) x (X-2)
Super X x (X -1) x (X -2) x (X -3)

rusrious
02-28-2007, 05:47 PM
Guys, thanks alot for the info.. You have been of much help..




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BIG RED
02-28-2007, 05:49 PM
Don't forget to multiply by bet amount!