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PaceAdvantage
02-12-2007, 04:35 PM
To quote the immortal Astro!

Temperature Believed to Have Impact on Polytrack (http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37529)
Though the evidence may be largely anecdotal, it appears swings in temperature can impact Polytrack and its consistency. Blood-Horse (http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37529)

JimG
02-12-2007, 05:29 PM
You would think with all the money being spent on the surface, the tracks would have sense enough to research this before investing.

JustRalph
02-12-2007, 05:39 PM
I don't know a damn thing about race track surfaces.......but a cursory look at the ingredients can lead you to some pretty simple conclusions if you ask me............ see post below from a few weeks back.......how in the hell can this not be obvious

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=352834&postcount=41

ceejay
02-12-2007, 05:59 PM
I also think that polytrack/cushion will have problems at high temperatures. As I understand it Equitrack did. The wax and rubber will behave differently @ 105F than 70F.

Tom
02-12-2007, 07:00 PM
You would think with all the money being spent on the surface, the tracks would have sense enough to research this before investing.


:lol::lol::lol:

Dave Schwartz
02-12-2007, 07:58 PM
What I recall from making pars at RP back in the early '90s was that it became very unpredictable.

We are prepared to look at a paceline, see the track was wet and expect that the track might be very slow.

But RP got slower when it got HOT - something that was not indicated in the pacelines.


However, I have not seen an issue with the reliability of ratings thus far on Polytrack.


Dave Schwartz

SMOO
02-13-2007, 01:06 PM
You would think with all the money being spent on the surface, the tracks would have sense enough to research this before investing.

Yes, they should have tracked all the various possibilities. Poly want a tracker?

Hosshead
02-13-2007, 06:30 PM
I don't know a damn thing about race track surfaces.......but a cursory look at the ingredients can lead you to some pretty simple conclusions if you ask me............ see post below from a few weeks back.......how in the hell can this not be obvious

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=352834&postcount=41You called it Ralph. Sounds logical (as ceejay/Dave mentioned) that the surface would get slower when the weather/rubber gets hot.
But what do you expect when using old ground up tires to make a track.
They might have to start using steel belted radials to get some consistency!

Robert Fischer
02-13-2007, 07:06 PM
Sounds like whatever they added to reduce kick-back sticks and "balls up" on the hooves. :rolleyes:


Who knows what is really going on with this. In the UK they have polytrack and some weather (not as cold?).
Turfway puts in this "polytrack" and all of a sudden there are unique kickback problems.
Then we do not hear about any kickback or Sticky problems at Keeneland , or Woodbine, or Hollywood park.

why?
Is Turfway using an inferior surface?

ceejay
02-13-2007, 08:24 PM
(not as cold?). Nor as hot.

I also worry about respiratory issues with horses inhaling the kickback.