KY Derby Futures

[bigmack]

Hey, it's the only line I could find. If anyone has a real McCoy, bring it on.

http://www.horsehats.com/DerbyContenders.html

[OTM Al]

I got the complete printout from Ballys as of last week if you are interested in any particular horse

[Ron]

The Green Monkey 200-1

:lol:

[bigmack]

I got the complete printout from Ballys as of last week if you are interested in any particular horse
How out of whack is it with the 'hohats' listing Al. If you get a chance to post the top 10, I'd be much obliged

[Robert Fischer]

Dreaming of Anna and Pirates Deputy would be a great bet-against at around 50-1.

PD did not stretch out well at all in the last. He may end up a 7f -1mile type of closer.

[TurfRuler]

The 450 nominees are:


The late nomination period, at $6,000 per horse, will close on March 31.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/racing-news/2007/February/04/Record-450-horses-nominated-to-Triple-Crown.aspx

[OTM Al]

I'll get back to everyone in a couple hours with those Bally's odds after I escape my freezing cell at work. That is if the trains can get me home as they sure had me wondering if I was getting to work at all this morning.....

[OTM Al]

My printout is in alphabetical and remember it was printed a week ago, so the GP and SA races have probably changed things a bit. I'll give the top 10 on the hohat and what they were at at Ballys

Nobiz 5/1
Hard Spun 10/1 (was going to place one on this guy but not at that price)
Tiz Wonderful 10/1
Birdbird...40/1 (honestly I think this is closer to the truth than hohats)
Circular Quay 18/1 (it tempted me)
Ravel 40/1
Scat Daddy 25/1
Stormello 20/1
Great Hunter 30/1
Any Given Saturday 30/1 (like his name....)

The only other notable at low odds was Day Pass at 15/1. He's in Dubai, so I'd say no way with your money to that one. They still had The Spankin, er Green Monkey at 45/1 which was the dumbest thing I've seen.

I was going to make a small bet, but just didn't like the prices on any in the end.

[TurfRuler]

Here is what I start with every year since 2003.

http://www.chef-de-race.com/dosage/classics/2007/2007_classic_contenders_expanded.htm

[OTM Al]

Its a good place to start. Was just looking at it yesterday. I will start on my tracking tomorrow when the first futures pool comes out. It helps narrow down the main contenders. Of course I will add a horse I think deserves to be included that is being overlooked, ala Smarty Jones in 2004. Don't have any of those yet this year though

[TurfRuler]

I also add to the list as the days go by, ala Bernardini, after the Kentucky Derby.

[PriceAnProbability]

Hey, it's the only line I could find. If anyone has a real McCoy, bring it on.

http://www.horsehats.com/DerbyContenders.html

Take WHAT A TALE at 125-1

Bargain. Won't be more than 12-1 on race day.

Back it up with TIZ WONDERFUL, who won't be more than 6-1.

[Cesario!]

Take WHAT A TALE at 125-1

Bargain. Won't be more than 12-1 on race day.

Back it up with TIZ WONDERFUL, who won't be more than 6-1.

Honest mistake by P&P? Just in case you're serious, you should know....

http://racing.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37169

[bigmack]

KDFW POOL 1 WAGERING INTERESTS:

#, Wagering Interest, ML odds

1. Adore the Gold, 20-1
2. Any Given Saturday, 20-1
3. Belgravia, 20-1
4. Buffalo Man, 30-1
5. Circular Quay, 15-1
6. Day Pass, 15-1
7. Dreaming of Anna (f), 15-1
8. Drums of Thunder, 30-1
9. E Z Warrior, 15-1
10. Exhale, 20-1
11. Forefathers, 30-1
12. Great Hunter, 30-1
13. Hard Spun, 20-1
14. Lawrence the Roman, 30-1
15. Liquidity, 20-1
16. Nobiz Like Shobiz, 8-1
17. Notional, 15-1
18. Out of Gwedda, 30-1
19. Ravel, 15-1
20. Scat Daddy, 30-1
21. Stormello, 20-1
22. Street Sense, 12-1
23. Zanjero, 30-1
24. All Other 3-year-olds, 7-2

[PriceAnProbability]

Honest mistake by P&P? Just in case you're serious, you should know....

http://racing.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37169

Well I like What A Tale better now.

When did this happen?

I couldn't get down anywhere on the futures so I wasn't on top of it as I should have been.

[bigmack]

Well I like What A Tale better now.
When did this happen?

I couldn't get down anywhere on the futures so I wasn't on top of it as I should have been.


The term "moron party" refers to the tendency for racetrack and horse racing crowds on Saturday to be a bit below-average in ability, thus creating opportunity (and presumably a better ROI) for the regular, sharper horseplayers.

Very entertaining.