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RobinFromIreland
01-25-2007, 12:42 PM
Goldophin confirms DC for the Dubai World Cup to take on Invasor.
"We've got plenty of options," Crisford (Godolphin said. "But the plan at this time is to prepare him for the Dubai World Cup.

"He's an incredibly exciting horse to have in the barn. He likes to train very slowly every day and requires very little training and very little work."

Early prices (Corals)

11/10 DC
13/8 Invasor
10/1 bar

classhandicapper
01-25-2007, 06:28 PM
I hope they both show up on the top of their game. :ThmbUp:

Tom
01-25-2007, 07:22 PM
Invasor...he is the best. :)

PlanB
01-25-2007, 07:24 PM
Are there stewards in Dubai? Has there ever been a DQ on their big day?

Robert Fischer
01-25-2007, 07:25 PM
This is 10f? (correct me if I am wrong)

I don't like DC at this distance. Also a bit of a long layoff for Invasor to come in fully ready, but I am sure they are keeping him on his toes.

I would tend to go for Invasor, or another horse that comes in sharp.

samyn on the green
01-25-2007, 09:02 PM
Great matchup between the two boss dirt horses in the world. The fastest horse in the world vs the Eclipse Champ, looking forward to this match up.

There is is 3 furlong homestretch at Nad Al Sheba and the race should be fairly run.

Discreet Cat has Impressed me as the greatest horse of the last 10 years so without a rabbit or a viscous duel, Invasor is running for place.

DJofSD
01-25-2007, 09:43 PM
Invasor -- he is dee best! Just like da Bears!!!

Cratos
01-27-2007, 05:59 PM
Goldophin confirms DC for the Dubai World Cup to take on Invasor.
"We've got plenty of options," Crisford (Godolphin said. "But the plan at this time is to prepare him for the Dubai World Cup.

"He's an incredibly exciting horse to have in the barn. He likes to train very slowly every day and requires very little training and very little work."

Early prices (Corals)

11/10 DC
13/8 Invasor
10/1 bar
Invasor ran a very good 1 ¼ mile race to win last year’s Breeders’ Cup Classic, but for him to win the DWC in March he will have to be the second coming of Secretariat because the ‘Cat is the best horse in training and the1 ¼ mile distance will not limit his ability to win impressively.

Tom
01-27-2007, 06:53 PM
Invasor -- he is dee best! Just like da Bears!!!

Da 'Sor! :D

triguero1954
03-29-2007, 01:42 AM
What an exiting race. I was disappointed that Storm Mayor won't be running. I don't know enough about the other runners. Which one could be the one spoiling the party?:confused:

ghostyapper
03-29-2007, 09:10 AM
What an exiting race. I was disappointed that Storm Mayor won't be running. I don't know enough about the other runners. Which one could be the one spoiling the party?:confused:

He might not be as talented as invasor or discreet cat but premium tap has turned into a damn fine horse. I could see him spoiling the party.

The Judge
03-29-2007, 12:00 PM
He has beat everything place in front of him so far but he hasn't run fast enough for my money. With Discreet Cat we know that horse is fast 1:32 mile the only issue is can he continue to run fast for another 1/4 mile. Wish he had another race under his belt.

I'll be looking at the Cat with others not Invasor.

Tom
03-29-2007, 12:18 PM
You'll still be looking Sunday, then! ;):D

Invasor....he is the BEST!:jump:

DJofSD
03-29-2007, 12:54 PM
To me, Invasor has the class edge -- the kind of class that becomes important at the red striped pole when he looks that other horse in the eye and lets him know 'you're toast, I'm going to win this race, get the h*ll out of my way'.

Cratos
03-29-2007, 02:37 PM
The ‘Cat ran in the UAE Derby last year at 1800 meters (approximately 1-1/8m) after having only two lifetime starts. What did he do? He destroyed the mighty Invasor by 6 lengths even though at the time the ‘Cat was 5 weeks short of his 3rd birthday and Invasor was about 3 ½ years old. This year at the 2000 meter distance (approximately 1-1/4m) the ‘Cat is not yet 3-years old and coming off one of the best performances run in North America in many years. The way the ‘Cat might lose this race is if they make him run early, but he ran the 2nd quarter in the Cigar Mile in 22.03 and still came home in 24 and change while registering a 1:32.46 final time for the mile.

Charlie D
03-29-2007, 03:07 PM
The race itself is fascinating and everything points to the CATas far as i can make out, except the minor doubt about the distance, but:

With the exception of one or two( who were probably well ahead of their opposition ) the Godolphin horses have not been finishing their races and just falling into a heap when asked for effort at the business end, add to this Discreet Cat missed it's prep race and what would have probably have been a canter for him imo and you have to have serious doubts from a punting prespective

3 wins from 42 runs does not bode well imo

I'll be on his side come the night, but keeping my wallet firmly closed

Racer98
03-30-2007, 08:23 PM
Invasor -- he is dee best! Just like da Bears!!!

In that case he's doomed! ;)

Can't wait. Will ESPN Televise it? Or Versus? or who? (Please don't say HRTV or TVG. I have neither.:blush: )

BIG RED
03-31-2007, 09:50 AM
I think Invasor will take a fall this time. I like DC, and he likes it there!

Charlie D
03-31-2007, 02:34 PM
3 wins from 42 runs does not bode well imo
closed


Make that 3 wins from 52 runs :eek:

BIG RED
04-01-2007, 05:51 AM
Kent Desmormeaux – Premium Tap –“The winner was too good. He (Premium Tap) was a little spread out (in the gate), they had him blindfolded. I was like, wait, wait, wait. I pulled the blindfold off and throw in out the back. I no longer get a hold and we’re gone. That was the only thing. I enjoyed the ride. Turning for home, I was looking behind me. He set sail. He (Invasor) couldn’t get me until at least the 3/16, then ate me up. The winner is a freak.”

OOPS

The Judge
04-01-2007, 10:45 AM
I said Ivasor hadn't run fast enough well he just did 1:59.94 second fastest time for the race. Hope he stays around for the BC and it would be nice to see the Kentucky Derby winner in the race with him.

SAL
04-01-2007, 12:59 PM
Not to discredit Invasor in any way, but it seems like Discreet Cat never showed up in this race. Dead last in the early going doesn't seem to be the proper running style for him.

Stevie Belmont
04-01-2007, 01:12 PM
You know what, even if Discreet Cat did show up, it would have been very very difficult to beat Invasor. He is a stamina oozing machine. You know the new owner of Premium Tap wanted this race badly, Invasor went toe to toe with him wearing him down and drawing off. It was a great effort, by the best dirt horse in the world. They don't make them like this anymore. He could win a 5 mile race.

Too bad they don't race them like they used to, this one could go every 3 weeks and not miss a beat. The horse does not tire.

Perlnalysis
04-01-2007, 01:59 PM
Well unfortunately as is often the case, this one did not quite live up to the hype. Discreet Cat never was himself in this race. Of course, part of the reason had to do with the difficult tactical position he found himself in. His only chance was probably to go out early and try to wire them. It would have been tough to imagine him circling the field but you still hoped maybe he'd throw in a dazzling quarter in the middle of the race and at least show his face near the front. Something was amiss on this day. Interesting to see what they'll do with this one. You'd love to see them ship him here for the Met Mile and start over again. He probably wants less than 10 panels, but you can't conclude it from this race. The real Discreet Cat did not show up.

Invasor goes straight to the hall of fame off this performance. He broke beautifully, and beat a horse in Premium Tap who also ran good enough to win. The way he drew off in the final 100 yards was so impressive.

I love the Nad al Sheba dirt course by the way. I think it's the fairest course in the world. The 6 furlong straightaway gives everyone fewer excuses, and the 10 panel course is as true a dirt test as you can have.

freehouse2002
04-01-2007, 02:50 PM
Didn't live up to the hype? Maybe not to they hype of Invasor vs. Discreet Cat, but Premium Tap is no slouch. They went toe to toe from the top of the stretch til about a furlong out. They were about ten clear of the third horse. It was an exciting race, just not with the two everyone thought would be fighting it out. Personally, I preferred PT over DC as I'm still not convinced DC could get the distance.




freehouse2002

dylbert
04-01-2007, 03:17 PM
Not to discredit Invasor in any way, but it seems like Discreet Cat never showed up in this race. Dead last in the early going doesn't seem to be the proper running style for him.Invasor is a champion whereas Discreet Cat is typical one-dimensional horse. He is, and will probably continue to be, one-turn specialist in 7- to 9-furlong range.

Yes, Discreet Cat is very nice horse and will add to breed. In long-term, he may become better broodmare sire than sire. Especially if owner seeks runners who can get 10 furlongs or better.

Invasor ran sub-2 minute 1-1/4 mile race without Lasix. This is truly amazing in today's overdrugged racing environment.

Indulto
04-01-2007, 03:28 PM
You know what, even if Discreet Cat did show up, it would have been very very difficult to beat Invasor. He is a stamina oozing machine. You know the new owner of Premium Tap wanted this race badly, Invasor went toe to toe with him wearing him down and drawing off. It was a great effort, by the best dirt horse in the world. They don't make them like this anymore. He could win a 5 mile race.

Too bad they don't race them like they used to, this one could go every 3 weeks and not miss a beat. The horse does not tire.SB,
I hope we haven't seen Invasor's last race. Having avenged his previous, but lone defeat in the desert to Discrete Cat, he clearly has nothing left to prove, and an impeccable reputation to tarnish. That combination is usually a sure sign that stud duty awaits momentarily.

His first sons should be named Inexorable, Inevitable, and Invincible; the fillies Incredible, Invasive, and Indiscrete.

Stevie Belmont
04-01-2007, 03:37 PM
I hope we have not seen his last either, it's possible, but he is closing in on Cigars mark for earnings. And that is another incentive to keep him running. The way this one is going, that should be in the bag if all goes well.

triguero1954
04-01-2007, 03:51 PM
He might not be as talented as invasor or discreet cat but premium tap has turned into a damn fine horse. I could see him spoiling the party. The real 'Cat' didn't show up. Is hard to figure out what the heck went wrong. They might have given the wrong strategy instructions to the jockey. Last throughout the race, who the heck are you kidding? I'm sure he will be back. I think the best instructions you can give a jockey would be: you know the horse, run your race. :bang:

Stevie Belmont
04-01-2007, 04:17 PM
The word is he had some type of a breathing issue. Saw this somewhere.

Spendabuck85
04-01-2007, 04:28 PM
Discreet Cat throat issue

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/editorial/full_edition.cgi