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Snag
01-13-2007, 08:08 PM
At last. President Bush should have started his speech out with this type of comments. If you want to say NO....offer something different.......

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070113/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_7

46zilzal
01-13-2007, 08:10 PM
slick......Try to have someone else figure out HIS monumental errors.

Tom
01-13-2007, 08:22 PM
slick......Try to have someone else figure out HIS monumental errors.

If they don'thave an alternative plan,they shoudl shut up. We have a name for people who chronically whine and complain, but have zero to offer as constructive.......46ers.

Sick? That term pretty much describes those who sit on the sideline and throw stone. Maybe a bit to generous.:kiss:

46zilzal
01-13-2007, 08:23 PM
As if anyone is going to consult the off topic area of Paceadvantage before their next move....

JustRalph
01-14-2007, 01:02 AM
As if anyone is going to consult the off topic area of Paceadvantage before their next move....

and therein lies the fallacy of this war! :lol: :lol:

Secretariat
01-14-2007, 02:27 AM
Plan? There's been loads of plans. Most recently the Iraqi Study Group had a bipartisan list of recommendations. Instead, GW starts this BS no one else has a plan. No the problem is he doesn't want to listen to anyone else's plan but his own. It's always been that way with him. Go back and look at the Iraqi Study Group's plans. THey make a heckuva lot more sense than creating a massive battle in Baghdad with many lives lost for nothing.

Tom
01-14-2007, 11:59 AM
Plan? There's been loads of plans. Most recently the Iraqi Study Group had a bipartisan list of recommendations. Instead, GW starts this BS no one else has a plan. No the problem is he doesn't want to listen to anyone else's plan but his own. It's always been that way with him. Go back and look at the Iraqi Study Group's plans. THey make a heckuva lot more sense than creating a massive battle in Baghdad with many lives lost for nothing.


Hehehe. Sec, we mean "viable" plans.
If you thinkg the Iraq Surrender Report was a viable plan, then perhaps you consider sending in the "Justice League!" Aquaman is already heading to the Tigress River.:lol:

Secretariat
01-14-2007, 12:49 PM
Ahh, Tom....now it's "viable" plans....I see. In other words a bipartisan plan is not "viable" but one formulated by the mad neoconservatives that got us in this mess to begin with is? Thanks. Check and mate.

Tom
01-14-2007, 12:51 PM
Ahh, Tom....now it's "viable" plans....I see. In other words a bipartisan plan is not "viable" but one formulated by the mad neoconservatives that got us in this mess to begin with is? Thanks. Check and mate.

Hey mate, yer check was returned for insufficient funds! :lol:

Snag
01-14-2007, 02:11 PM
Plan? There's been loads of plans. Most recently the Iraqi Study Group had a bipartisan list of recommendations. Instead, GW starts this BS no one else has a plan. No the problem is he doesn't want to listen to anyone else's plan but his own. It's always been that way with him. Go back and look at the Iraqi Study Group's plans. THey make a heckuva lot more sense than creating a massive battle in Baghdad with many lives lost for nothing.

Sec, The Iraqi Study Group did have a litst of "recommendations". That is no where near a plan. You are trying to spin this and it doesn't work.

46zilzal
01-14-2007, 02:20 PM
the rutabaga wouldn't listen anyway. Reminds of patients we used to call "shoppers." they would go to doctor after doctor until THEY HEARD WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR.right, wrong..... it didn't matter as if they never really wanted an opinion in the first place.

46zilzal
01-14-2007, 03:09 PM
the other guys have a plan (from the Boston Globe)
"One Western military specialist based in Tehran said on condition of anonymity that over the last year, Iran was sharpening its abilities to wage a guerrilla war,” the Boston Globe adds. “But most analysts agree that the biggest trump card Iranians could play is to unleash havoc in neighboring Iraq, where Iraqis who spent years in Iran as exiles are about to assume a dominant role in the government.”

In other words, the U.S. will be confronted with a large number of resistance fighters in Iraq, conceivably upward to a million or more, and not the paltry 200,000 or so it currently faces and finds overwhelming. On the day after the Pentagon stupidly bombs Iran’s illusory nuclear facilities there will be hell to pay in Iraq.

PaceAdvantage
01-14-2007, 05:18 PM
On the day after the Pentagon stupidly bombs Iran’s illusory nuclear facilities there will be hell to pay in Iraq.

You think so, eh? If not, you wouldn't have posted this.

JustRalph
01-14-2007, 07:11 PM
In other words, the U.S. will be confronted with a large number of resistance fighters in Iraq, conceivably upward to a million or more, and not the paltry 200,000 or so it currently faces and finds overwhelming. On the day after the Pentagon stupidly bombs Iran’s illusory nuclear facilities there will be hell to pay in Iraq.

this is the same stuff we heard about the Republican guard etc. You remember them, the ones in the toyota pickups that were taking on the tanks? Keep rooting for them...... I hope they take on the Marines in Iraq. I could use a little more footage of those assholes being wiped out.

Secretariat
01-14-2007, 07:14 PM
Sec, The Iraqi Study Group did have a litst of "recommendations". That is no where near a plan. You are trying to spin this and it doesn't work.

I'm not trying to spin anything. I believe Bush has no plan except to cause more harm than he already has. His idea of a surge has been rejected by many in the military who see it as a poor recomendation for success, and in fact Maliki six weeks ago was not in favor of more US troops in Baghdad . GW's problem all along has been he has no plan, but simplistic stupid tough guy rhetoric.

The Iraq Study Group recommendations represent a better plan than anything coming out of the White House. In fact the American public thinks so as well according to this Gallup poll:

"December 12, 2006
Public Trusts Iraq Study Group More Than Bush on Iraq
Americans favor group's key recommendations

by Frank Newport
Americans are more likely to trust the Iraq Study Group than President George W. Bush to recommend the right actions for the conflict in Iraq, 66% to 46%. "

...

But then again GW doesn't really listen to the public.

skate
01-14-2007, 08:30 PM
Sec, The Iraqi Study Group did have a litst of "recommendations". That is no where near a plan. You are trying to spin this and it doesn't work.

beauteous!
Snag.

it seems so simple, what you've said, yet 'they just keep on spinning'.

Secretariat
01-14-2007, 11:17 PM
beauteous!
Snag.

it seems so simple, what you've said, yet 'they just keep on spinning'.

skate, if you disagree i know i'm on the right track.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

skate
01-15-2007, 05:42 PM
i see that you are laughing and many tears are in your eyes, because i agreed.

take another look at your track