It's not a Christmas tree, dammit!

[JPinMaryland]

Some SOB tried to offer me a "christmas tree" a few days ago at one of those tree stands. I told him to shove it:

"It's not a freakin' Christmas tree, you dumb bastard. It's a yule tree from pre christian Germany when the German tribes would sacrifice slaves and animals, Then some Roman guy took away their oak trees made them use fir trees or something. Apparently you can't hang a roasting cat from a fir tree like you can an oak tree….”

He said he was sorry about the decline in paganism but that he was just distributing Christmas trees in the american tradition based on our Judeao Christian origins.

"No, Goddamit, christmas is not a judeao christian tradition, it's based on pagan rituals. So is the trinity and this winter solstice birthday thing. It's not Jesus's birthday, no one knows Jesus's birthday. The Puritans banned trees of this sort because they didn’t want pagan traditions interfering with their celebration. Hell, read Wikipedia or something.”

He told me he was giving away the trees at this point if I wanted one and to have a “Merry Christmas.”

“Goddammit it’s not a ‘Christmas’ it’s Yuletide you stupid punk. Got it? “yuletide” I hate these people. I HATE THEM, every year it’s the same old story making war on pagan holidays. I wonder if I can sue them over it??

[bigmack]

Remember in The Graduate when the man pulled DHoffman aside and said "One word: Plastics?"

Consider me pulling you aside and saying "One word: Pharmaceuticals"

http://www.kmhk.kmu.edu.tw/medhome/Intra_med/med_o/search/images/x/Xanax%200.25mg2.jpg

[JPinMaryland]

Those squirrels in my attic are the ones going to need pharmaceuticals. I got Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath CDs, set on random mode, for those rodents. I think Crazy Train is coming on for the fifth time now...

[bigmack]

Those squirrels in my attic are the ones going to need pharmaceuticals. I got Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath CDs, set on random mode, for those rodents. I think Crazy Train is coming on for the fifth time now...
I don't know how effective it was w/ "Pineapple Face" http://www.psywarrior.com/rockmusic.html

In fact, the squirrels are probably dancing to the tunes ala the gopher in Caddyshack.

[Ponyplayr]

I don't know if pharmaceuticals are what you need...I'm thinking Fire Extinguisher. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53493

[Tom]

Natural selection.
Fools like this guy dilute the gene pool.
No sympathy for this fruticake.
If our tax dollars are covering his ass, pull the plug. (Whoa! I just got a rush - I felt like a....a.....democrat!)

[wes]

Sprinkle some Viagra on their food. It will be hard for them to climb with the extra limb.

wes

[JPinMaryland]

Plan B is Tom's option: 12 gauge. But I'm pretty sure Pink Floyd will get them..

[Steve 'StatMan']

I don't know if pharmaceuticals are what you need...I'm thinking Fire Extinguisher. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53493

Aww. What a waste of an American Flag and a tree (be it Christmas or Yule).

[JustRalph]

Tom's post reminds me of a news article from years back. Monkeys were taking over the downtown area of some Asian country where the monkeys were considered "good luck" businesses had started moving out of the downtown area because the employees were being attacked and harassed on their way into work. The economy was being damaged. The article listed stats on how many jobs were lost etc.

These monkeys were numbering in the hundreds in a five square mile area. The state was asking that people stop feeding them on their lunch breaks and such. I was sitting in a police car next to my supervisor (Sgt.) who showed me the article. He asked me how a modern country with a thriving downtown business area could be completely unaware of the existence of the "shotgun" ?

[Bala]

......"No, Goddamit, christmas is not a judeao christian tradition, it's based on pagan rituals. So is the trinity and this winter solstice birthday thing. It's not Jesus's birthday, no one knows Jesus's birthday. What you write is in fact true. But you are missing the big picture.

Early Christians in Rome were thought of as nothing more than vermin. Slaves to be used for entertainment - most often fed to hungry wild bests in Roman Colosseum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Jean-Leon_Gerome_Pollice_Verso.jpg). Those same early Christians had a coup d’état (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d'état) of sorts.

December 25 is not an arbitrary date. It was in fact one of the most important days in pagan society at the time. Those early Christians usurped the pagan gods and claimed the date for their own. A crude example may be .... my God can beat up your God. As silly as that sounds, rituals were extremely relevant to all people groups in ancient times. {contrast this to the commercialism of our time.}

It turned out to be a brilliant coup. Allow me to ask you – do you pay homage to Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, etc..... They are after all Gods of the ancient pagan world. I'm willing to bet you don't. And this is the rest of the story of Dec 25. The Christian worldview now dominates those false dates.

As far as when JC birthday was – Christians are expressly forbidden to Idol worship. Pictures, status, etc.... We are told to worship the living God in spirit and in truth. For a real Christian, everyday belongs to the infinite creator, therefore everyday is Christmas.




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It is an interesting historical footnote that the private ownership of gold
was banned by Lenin, Hitler, Mussolini, Mao Tse Tung and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

[Valuist]

JP Maryland-

Crazy Train was from Ozzy's band. Dio was fronting Sabbath by that point.

[njcurveball]

[QUOTE=Bala]

As far as when JC birthday was .

[QUOTE]

The key point in the scripture is that there was no room at the Inn. Many scholars believe that many Jewish pilgrims came to Jerusalem for the Feast of Tabernacles. Thus the overflow into Bethlehem.

At the time this fell in September. Many scholars also believe Jesus was born around 5 B.C. Talk about an PRE-MATURE BIRTH!

However, the key scientic fact is that it took them over 1,500 years to figure out the Earth was revolving around the Sun. So there were many many calendar changes through those times.

So it is actually a possibility that a day in September in 5 B.C., could actually fall on December 25th today.

There are many religious reasons why they picked December 25th, but that would take about 3 or 4 books!

Merry Christmas to you!
Jim

[JPinMaryland]

Tom's post reminds me of a news article from years back. Monkeys were taking over the downtown area of some Asian country where the monkeys were considered "good luck" businesses had started moving out of the downtown area because the employees were being attacked and harassed on their way into work. The economy was being damaged. The article listed stats on how many jobs were lost etc.

They were actually adopted by a girl in TX, if I recall the story. THese were snow monkeys in one of the northern Jap. towns. They were wrecking all kinds of havoc.

Ralph you will love this...the girl heard about the story and asked her dad who was a multi millionaire if they could find a place for them otherewise they would be toast. ANd they did, they created some sort of ranch for them out in TX. Apparently snow monkeys can adapt to warm weather something the curators were not sure about at the time. I think there are about 2,000 or maybe 4,000 of them there.

I guess they have done a lot of research on them and they have found that they organize themselves into social structures w/ a pecking order. They even have a "king" and "queen" who are the preeminent monkeys of the society. Video clip showed the king and queen making a procession down the line of monkeys, interesting...

[JPinMaryland]

here is one article about them, they came from Japan in 1972 then had to be relocated again 20 years later:


http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid%3A283057

[bigmack]

Rthey created some sort of ranch for them out in TX. Apparently snow monkeys can adapt to warm weather something the curators were not sure about at the time. I think there are about 2,000 or maybe 4,000 of them there.
The story is bit more macabre:

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid%3A283057

[JPinMaryland]

....or macque?