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PriceAnProbability
12-24-2006, 12:55 AM
I pick five hoop games today. Five-team parlays pay 20-1.
Four of the games win. Fifth game (first chronologically) was Texas, getting 4.
They lost by six.
In OVERTIME!
K9Pup
12-24-2006, 08:50 AM
Fifth game (first chronologically) was Texas, getting 4.
They lost by six.
In OVERTIME!
They lost by six after being up by 15 at half!!
I pick five hoop games today. Five-team parlays pay 20-1.
Four of the games win. Fifth game (first chronologically) was Texas, getting 4.
They lost by six.
In OVERTIME!
You should have factored that into your power rating. :cool:
How do you make an odds line for TWO competitors? :bang:
Then lose!
Handiman
12-24-2006, 01:18 PM
P&P,
You've been picking horses that lose consistiently enough you have whined about it here on the board. Now you have basketball kicking your butt. Think maybe you should find a different avocation?
Although I must say, it is rather delightful to listen to you whine and post "I quit." After putting money on a future glue factory hall of famer, and within hours, put up a post about you absolutely won't release any of your valuable hidden handicapping secrets so as not to destroy your prices.
So which is it? Are you going to 'Quit' or are you going to remain a handicapping dynamo, selecting losers, whining about it, but keep your handicapping secrets so your price isn't destroyed?
Handiman:confused:
bigmack
12-24-2006, 01:27 PM
You should have factored that into your power rating.
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How do you make an odds line for TWO competitors?
Then lose!
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You've been picking horses that lose consistiently enough you have whined about it here on the board. Now you have basketball kicking your butt. Think maybe you should find a different avocation?
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PriceAnProbability
12-24-2006, 04:48 PM
How do you make an odds line for TWO competitors? :bang:
Then lose!
This is a quirk in basketball betting, where the favorite can cover the spread in overtime, where if the game didn't go to OT, the dog would have covered. The dog was obviously the right side.
You can get bad racing luck at the track, but rarely will you lose a race just as you were about to win. This is like a horse breaking down three steps from the wire with a 10-length lead, in my case at 20-1 because it killed a five-team parlay.
If I post about my wins, you'll call it redboarding, and the last time I gave out a longshot winner here, I wound up getting flamed and then banned.
Well, you won one because a horse broke down, and you lost one because a game went to overtime. Sounds like you are even on the luck scale.
If I post about my wins, you'll call it redboarding, and the last time I gave out a longshot winner here, I wound up getting flamed and then banned.
Why do you think we care about your losses?
Valuist
12-25-2006, 01:04 AM
I'm not betting basketball now but when I did there was nothing I hated more than overtime. I bet more dogs than chalk, and more unders than overs. The squares love chalk and overs. I'll never forget having a Bulls/Charlotte game UNDER that was way under but went to OT. It was still under after 1 OT. Finally, in the closing seconds of the second OT, it goes over.
IMO, college basketball is one of the tougher sports to bet. Basketball has so many sides that come down to the last minute, and college kids are so unpredictable that their emotions often get the best of them.
PriceAnProbability
12-25-2006, 01:37 AM
Why do you think we care about your losses?
"We?"
http://m-w.com/dictionary/we
:)
Dick Schmidt
12-25-2006, 02:24 AM
Anyone who takes 20-1 on a five event parlay is either mathematically challenged or has a death wish. Save up your betting money for a bit and get the word "SUCKER" tattooed on your forehead. Trust me, that's what the bookies see.
Dick
Incompetence is a double-edged banana.
PaceAdvantage
12-25-2006, 03:34 AM
If I post about my wins, you'll call it redboarding, and the last time I gave out a longshot winner here, I wound up getting flamed and then banned.
Yup, that's EXACTLY how it went down.....:rolleyes:
Trax21
12-25-2006, 09:18 AM
Anyone who takes 20-1 on a five event parlay is either mathematically challenged or has a death wish. Save up your betting money for a bit and get the word "SUCKER" tattooed on your forehead. Trust me, that's what the bookies see.
Dick
Incompetence is a double-edged banana.
Wouldn't that depend on how historically successful his single game picking percentage is? If he has a 50%, 55% or 60% hit rate? or other? Assuming that his hit rate will continue.
ryesteve
12-25-2006, 10:07 AM
Wouldn't that depend on how historically successful his single game picking percentage is? If he has a 50%, 55% or 60% hit rate? or other? Assuming that his hit rate will continue.
Given any hit rate that's within achievable bounds, you'll do better betting the games individually into a -104 line than you would if you combine them into sets of 5 and play them as 20-1 parlays.
PriceAnProbability
12-25-2006, 10:49 AM
Anyone who takes 20-1 on a five event parlay is either mathematically challenged or has a death wish. Save up your betting money for a bit and get the word "SUCKER" tattooed on your forehead. Trust me, that's what the bookies see.
Dick
Incompetence is a double-edged banana.
This isn't true of players who have higher winning percentages, since you are parlaying positive ROIs onto each other.
One can also do a round-robin of the five teams for $6 and make about 15-1 if all five win, and even money if four win. This also saves money on days where the record is 2-3, 1-4, or 0-5.
JustRalph
12-25-2006, 12:05 PM
Yup, that's EXACTLY how it went down.....:rolleyes:
Wow, you must be magic? You are banned, yet you still post? Who the hell were you before?
Why do you think we care about your losses?
Why does he think we care about his winners? :confused::eek::lol:
Handiman
12-25-2006, 02:29 PM
What winners......he played a 5 team parlay and lost. That's like running and jumping from one roof top to another and all you have to do is clear 5 feet to make it...but alas he only cleared 4 feet. See you at the bottom. SPLAT!! :cool:
Handi
The most important thing you teach a horse player, or any gambler for that matter, is how to lose. This vital lesson should be ingrained in his or her style.
How to win, and how to lose. Lessons 1 & 2.
A perfect example of an improperly trained gambler is Phil Helmut. He learned everything but skipped/missed lessons 1 & 2. The results are self-evident.
This thread has nothing to do with Handicapping and everything to do with poor losing skills.
Cesario!
12-25-2006, 02:48 PM
The most important thing you teach a horse player, or any gambler for that matter, is how to lose. This vital lesson should be ingrained in his or her style.
How to win, and how to lose. Lessons 1 & 2.
A perfect example of an improperly trained gambler is Phil Helmut. He learned everything but skipped/missed lessons 1 & 2. The results are self-evident.
This thread has nothing to do with Handicapping and everything to do with poor losing skills.
Agree with you 100%.
Seth
PriceAnProbability
12-25-2006, 03:27 PM
What winners......he played a 5 team parlay and lost. That's like running and jumping from one roof top to another and all you have to do is clear 5 feet to make it...but alas he only cleared 4 feet. See you at the bottom. SPLAT!! :cool:
Handi
Actually, losing in OT with an underdog was the point of the post. There's also nothing wrong with five-teamers, or round-robins so four of five pays off (I'm not looking for 3-2 or worse anyway).
xciceroguy
12-26-2006, 12:48 AM
That's nothing. I had the Miami Heat last years chcmpionship game and played the over. Dwayne Wade missed 2 FREE THROWS!!!!!!!! at the end. All i needed was 1 more point to be scored and he missed both!!!!!! Talked to myself the rest of the night............unbelievable.........
PriceAnProbability
12-26-2006, 03:25 PM
That's nothing. I had the Miami Heat last years chcmpionship game and played the over. Dwayne Wade missed 2 FREE THROWS!!!!!!!! at the end. All i needed was 1 more point to be scored and he missed both!!!!!! Talked to myself the rest of the night............unbelievable.........
Suppose you had played the UNDER and lost in OVERtime....that would have been analagous.
Not that what happened to you didn't totally suck!
formula_2002
12-27-2006, 07:12 PM
I pick five hoop games today. Five-team parlays pay 20-1.
Four of the games win. Fifth game (first chronologically) was Texas, getting 4.
They lost by six.
In OVERTIME!
Curious, what were the odds for each individual game?
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