Weakening America one step at a time

[luv_america]

I know you folks on the left will cheer this, but we've lost yet another true patriot and an overqualified government administrator. John Bolton should be cheered for his service to this country.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/04/D8LQ37GG1.html

Bolton's only crime is that he wanted to hold the UN accountable for its actions and make its attempted enforncement of pronouncements more effective.

I'm scared that the best and brightest among us will stay as far away from politics as possible as to not go through this character assisnation as Bolton has.

[Murph]

I'm scared that the best and brightest among us will stay as far away from politics as possible as to not go through this character assisnation as Bolton has.Hasn't this been happening since the Watergate scandals? I believe this is how we ended up with presidents like GW and Slick Willy.

Murph

[46zilzal]

rats jumping off the sinking ship....there will be more as the last election's penchant for republican candidates wanting less and less to do with the rutabaga widens.

[luv_america]

46,

we know you hate America. Please move to Canada.

[46zilzal]

46,

we know you hate America.
same old tired b.s. "yur either with me or aggin' me."

jingoism is not an attractive trait.

[luv_america]

jingoism is not an attractive trait.

rats jumping off the sinking ship....there will be more as the last election's penchant for republican candidates wanting less and less to do with the rutabaga widens.

Jingoism. Please look at yourself who calls the President of the United States a rutabaga (btw, some of us are actually offended by that regardless of who the President is), and Republicans as rats. Is that not jingoism, or is that reserved for the almighty 46zilzal "critic of all"?

[46zilzal]

extreme chauvinism or nationalism marked especially by a belligerent foreign policy ....


nope this definition is from the dictionary....suggest you know of what you are speaking before you do.

The English lexicographer Samuel Johnson once remarked, "Patriotism is the last resort of scoundrels." Indeed, appeals to patriotic pride were used during the 20th century to legitimize some of the most unspeakable crimes in human history. Flag waving and the use of other symbols of national pride in place of reasoning is an old tradition in America as well, and we should not imagine that we are immune to the evil that the appeal to such strong emotions can cause.

[46zilzal]

First, the word jingo came from the Basque word Jainko, meaning God, so the expression "by Jingo!" is the same as "by God!" Brewer's states that this term started to be used when Basque soldiers were imported by Edward I (1239-1307) to fight in Wales.

Between that time and the Russo-Turkish War (1877-78), the adjective "jingo" was used to describe a rather vulgar person (someone who would say "by Jingo").

Jingoism means extreme nationalism characterized by shows of excessive patriotism, usually associated with going to war. This word came about when England was considering involvement in the Russo-TurkishWar. A music hall song of that time proclaimed:

"We don't want to fight: but if we do, by Jingo,
We've got the ships, we've got the men, and got the money, too!"

Jingoism became the term for the sentiment expressed in the song and a jingoist is a person who embodies that sentiment.

[luv_america]

Excellent. Then I am guilty of Jingoism. I love this country, its opportunity, and its freedoms. There ain't no better place, or better people than us Americans. We are the most peace-loving, giving, caring nation in the world. Over and over our good people have sacrificed so that others could live the kind of lifestyle and have the freedoms that Americans have. There is no other country in the whole history of civilization that has done what Americans have.

Its a shame that a few bad apples have to try and tell everyone that we're so terrible to the rest of the planet (notably only when a Republican is running things) . Here's another example of another idiot American who goes overseas and all of the sudden is refined (good pot over there i guess), and prefers the Brits inner peace to our way of life. Thanks Gwen.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/02/061202162419.xtnkgaet.html

[Lefty]

rats jumping off the sinking ship....there will be more as the last election's penchant for republican candidates wanting less and less to do with the rutabaga widens.
Once again 46, you don't know what the fig you're talking about. Bolton is not a "rat" leaving a sinking ship; he's leaving because he wasn't able to get cdonfirmed by the Senate. He was blocked from that for over a yr by demorats and rinos. Now we will get some "weak as water" dem in there and we will certainly lose even more of our sovereignty to the U.N.
Losing Bolton is a great loss. We have lost a strong voice for America.

[46zilzal]

[QUOTE=luv_america]Excellent. Then I am guilty of Jingoism. I love this country, its opportunity, and its freedoms. There ain't no better place, or better people than us Americans. We are the most peace-loving, giving, caring nation in the world. Over and over our good people have sacrificed so that others could live the kind of lifestyle and have the freedoms that Americans have.


lots of evidence (via the CIA) to the contrary.

More examples of the Dumbing Down of America

If you were a horse, there would be a special notation of HUGE blinkers ON.

[46zilzal]

just a few CIA's "peace loving" actions

The Directorate for Plans was responsible for what became known as the CIA's Black Operations. This involved a policy that was later to become known as Executive Action (a plan to remove unfriendly foreign leaders from power). This including a coup d'état that overthrew the Guatemalan government of Jacobo Arbenz in 1954 after he introduced land reforms and nationalized the United Fruit Company.

Other political leaders deposed by Executive Action included Patrice Lumumba of the Congo, the Dominican Republic dictator Rafael Trujillo, General Abd al-Karim Kassem of Iraq and Ngo Dinh Diem, the leader of South Vietnam. However, his main target was Fidel Castro who had established a socialist government in Cuba.

[46zilzal]

Once again 46, you don't know what the fig you're talking about. Bolton is not a "rat" leaving a sinking ship; he's leaving because he wasn't able to get cdonfirmed by the Senate. He was blocked from that for over a yr by demorats and rinos.
blocked by many of his own party and there were a lot more of them around

[Snag]

The English lexicographer Samuel Johnson once remarked, "Patriotism is the last resort of scoundrels." Indeed, appeals to patriotic pride were used during the 20th century to legitimize some of the most unspeakable crimes in human history. Flag waving and the use of other symbols of national pride in place of reasoning is an old tradition in America as well, and we should not imagine that we are immune to the evil that the appeal to such strong emotions can cause.

What unspeakable crimes in the 20th century were caused by patriotism?

I'll bet you can't name two.

[luv_america]

No one can name two unless you are an American-hating, blame America first, socialist hack.

I am amused by the lefts inability to embrace this country as the best thing on the planet. Just look at the leaders and countries that they embrace for their inspiration.

[JPinMaryland]

Can you give me one logical reason why you would "love" an abstract entity that has no feelings for you and was created specifically to benefit people?

Do you have more love for americans than other peoples? Why? What is the logic?

[bettheoverlay]

What unspeakable crimes in the 20th century were caused by patriotism?

I'll bet you can't name two.

Well, the Japanese and the Germans sure got carried away with their patriotism, to name the two most prominent.

[Lefty]

blocked by many of his own party and there were a lot more of them around
Yes, the friggin Rinos I mentioned. Read carefully, stinky cabbage.

[Tom]

46,

we know you hate America. Please move to Canada.

Move further North - you are still too close! :lol:

[Snag]

Well, the Japanese and the Germans sure got carried away with their patriotism, to name the two most prominent.

Are you really sure you want to equate World War II to crimes caused by patriotism? Becareful supporting 46's comments. He has been known to make stupid analagies.