Gordon Jones

[banacek]

I was just looking at some old threads and noticed one about Gordon Jones quitting his radio show because he wanted to spend more time working on his new book. That thread was from 2003:confused: . His site (thoroughbredinsiders) only lists his first book (from the mid-70s if I remember correctly). Does anyone know if he still plans on publishing another book? I would love to read more from Gordon. (and how about Andy Beyer? Is he done with books?)

[Dan Montilion]

I think Gordon has been writing those books for years.

[Lefty]

Yep, been talking about and writing em for over 20 yrs. He still does the radio show and does selections for Sam's Town.

[Pgh. Gere]

Gamblers' Book Club has "Gordon Jones To Win" as back in print, with the date as May 2004. The picture of the cover is the same as the original, so don't know if anything inside has been revised or updated.

[Lefty]

Gamblers' Book Club has "Gordon Jones To Win" as back in print, with the date as May 2004. The picture of the cover is the same as the original, so don't know if anything inside has been revised or updated.

Only the Speed Charts have been updated.

[Maxspa]

Banacek,
My trips to Las Vegas always included a day at Sam's Town because Gordon was there and so was his handicapping prowess. I found him to be a gentleman with a passion for handicapping and wagering on the horses. He always had time to chat and make you feel welcome.
Then I joined Handicapper- Insiders! How Gordon ever got mixed up in that boilermaker outfit, I'll never know. With the extreme pressure on a daily basis to step up the quality choices ladder at a significant price increase, I stopped cold, let the outfit know what I thought and my trips to Sam's Town were no more!
Maxspa

P.S. I think Gordon loves handicapping the horses on a daily basis more than
writing those books!

[banacek]

Then I joined Handicapper- Insiders! How Gordon ever got mixed up in that boilermaker outfit, I'll never know. With the extreme pressure on a daily basis to step up the quality choices ladder at a significant price increase, I stopped cold, let the outfit know what I thought and my trips to Sam's Town were no more!


yeah, I sent them my email when they started up and was supposed to get a bunch of free selections. I got nothing, but I did get a call from some guy and he was trying to get me to sign up for paid picks. I said I'll see how your free picks do if I ever get any. I'm still waiting.

I would enjoy reading more from Gordon, though.

[SignUpKing]

NOTE: Throughbred Insiders only uses Gordon's name, not his picks. (I am a longtime friend of Gordon -- he knows how to beat the game.)

[rrbauer]

P.S. I think Gordon loves handicapping the horses on a daily basis more than
writing those books!

For sure Max. I worked with Gordon on a project for his Pick-6 club when it was based at Hollywood Park, some 25 years ago. He was "writing" his book on beating small tracks at that time....never reached print that I know of. Dick Mitchell told me once that about the most you could make from a horse-race handicapping book was $25K and that was with a name publisher and broad distribution. With the big P6 pools in California, I figure that Gordon saw more revenue potential in P6 scores than he did from book sales.

[Maxspa]

Richard,
Thanks for your comments re: Gordon Jones! When I used to go to Sam's Town, Gordon had many people wanting his handicapping expertise. He would get several phone calls etc. during the racing day! Even with many interruptions he was always a gentleman. I had great respect for him as a person until the Insider business! Sometimes even with the use of one's name not one's handicapping prowess it produces a blurred image!
Great meeting you at the PA Saratoga get-together!
Maxspa

[silverfox]

Faded away into the sunset.

[banacek]

Well, I'd sure like to read another book by Gordon. Actually, other than the reissuings of books by DRF (e.g.Modern Pace Handicapping), we are really at a slow period for new handicapping books. I'd love to read another book by Andrew Beyer..no matter what you think of him, he's a great read. His last one was in what 93???

Calling Dick Schmidt and Dave Schwartz (and others), authors wanted!

[judd]

joann jones is his daughter hrtv

[rrbauer]

Richard,
Great meeting you at the PA Saratoga get-together!
Maxspa

DITTO Max! Especially now that I understand the "spa" part. :lol:

[bigmack]

Four titles were declared to be "published shortly" in 2005.

SURE PROFITS WITH LOSING HORSES
HOW TO PLAY MORE HORSES FOR LESS MONEY
LONGSHOTS I HAVE KNOWN
EASY PICKINGS

Within his accomplishments he: Hit the Pick Six 350 times during the first six years the wager was offered in Southern California.

[GaryG]

He was working on Easy Pickings 20 years ago....it was about the CA fairs, He loved those fair meets.

[Indulto]

http://www.fairplex.com/fp/HorseRacing/index.asp (http://www.fairplex.com/fp/HorseRacing/index.asp)

Why California’s No. 1 Horse Owner Never Skips a Meet at Fairplex Park (http://www.fairplex.com/fp/HorseRacing/docs/gj/FPLX-DRF-GJ1.pdf)

Who's the 'Fairest One of All' at Fairplex Park - Lava Man or Free House or Squirtle Squirt? (http://www.fairplex.com/fp/HorseRacing/docs/gj/FPLX-DRF-GJ2.pdf)

How Gordon Jones Sets His New Records at Fairplex's 'Better Bettors' Forum'! (http://www.fairplex.com/fp/HorseRacing/docs/gj/FPLX-DRF-GJ3.pdf)

Here's a 'Jeopardy' Quiz for Horseplayers with 16 Matinees to Collect Your Prizes! (http://www.fairplex.com/fp/HorseRacing/docs/gj/FPLX-DRF-GJ4.pdf)

It's 'Legalized Stealing' When Horses Dash a Half Mile at Fairplex Park (http://www.fairplex.com/fp/HorseRacing/docs/gj/FPLX-DRF-GJ5.pdf)

Hornblower Jay Cohen Never Misses a Beat at Fairplex Park with His Horn or His Humor! (http://www.fairplex.com/fp/HorseRacing/docs/gj/FPLX-DRF-GJ6.pdf)

When Del Mar's Summer Season Ends Trevor Denman Always Goes to Fairplex Park! (http://www.fairplex.com/fp/HorseRacing/docs/gj/FPLX-DRF-GJ7.pdf)

Who's the Real King of Fairplex Park - - Martin Pedroza or David Flores? (http://www.fairplex.com/fp/HorseRacing/docs/gj/FPLX-DRF-GJ8.pdf)

[Topcat]

thanks I always enjoyed Gordon-I used to go every Sunday to his pick 6 club-his daugther hlped him out and we were all much younger then.

[Tom]

Is he still on the radio ( internet) on weekends?

I heard a tape by him from one of the Handicapping Expos, where he talks about a way he "improves" the Beyers at small tracks - very interesting stuff. I love listening to the guy. He also talks about his grow up plays, and a few others.

[levinmpa]

Is he still on the radio ( internet) on weekends?

I heard a tape by him from one of the Handicapping Expos, where he talks about a way he "improves" the Beyers at small tracks - very interesting stuff. I love listening to the guy. He also talks about his grow up plays, and a few others.

Gordon is on a couple of shows every weekend.

Vegas Track Talk: Saturday & Sunday 7:30AM - 8:00AM Pacific "The show that dares to keep score". Gordon is up over $1000 for 2007. www.klav1230am.com

Thoroughbred LA: Sunday 9:00AM - 10:00AM Pacific He has a short segment with host Mike Wilman, usually toward the end of the hour. www.830klaa.com

He's also a featured handicapper occasionally with Sam Spear on At the Track. Saturday's at 7:00AM - 8:00AM Pacific. www.knbr.com

Vegas Track Talk has an email address that you can probably direct a question to: vegastracktalk@yahoo.com

[Tom]

Thank you.

[silverfox]

Have receive emails from Gordon Jones service.Selling $100 inside information picks,pump and dump service.

[GaryG]

Thanks levinpa....much appreciated. I will be listening.

[cj]

It's 'Legalized Stealing' When Horses Dash a Half Mile at Fairplex Park (http://www.fairplex.com/fp/HorseRacing/docs/gj/FPLX-DRF-GJ5.pdf)

(http://www.fairplex.com/fp/HorseRacing/docs/gj/FPLX-DRF-GJ6.pdf)

I figured I would check one out, and this one seemed interesting. Apparently, horses that hit the turn first win most of the races. Wow, what a revelation. I just need to find that window that stays open until the turn.

[Lefty]

cj, must be a lot of em. When my picks hit the turn in front the odds go dn. Had one the other day that broke the gate at 4-1 odds and won paying 9-5. It happens so much that i'm getting thoroughly disgusted.

[DanG]

When my picks hit the turn in front the odds go dn. Had one the other day that broke the gate at 4-1 odds and won paying 9-5. It happens so much that i'm getting thoroughly disgusted.
I have the same perception Lefty.


Side note; (I hope he doesn’t mind me replaying this story; if he does it will be the last heads-up I get! :D ) A member / advertiser on this board was kind enough to give me a heads up on a horse he owns running at PHA the other day. I was working on closing day DMR and forgot about it until just before post. 10-1 MLO and 2 minutes before the bell was 9/2. I didn’t bet; she went to the lead and while on the backside the odds shot to 10-1. She galloped at $22 +.

Whenever I see this I try and remind myself, for every late drop there must be an equal / proportionate rise in others odds. We would all love to know exactly what are price is at the start, but the mid+ price animals do drift up more than are subconscious will admit to sometimes... IMHO.

[njcurveball]

cj, must be a lot of em. When my picks hit the turn in front the odds go dn. Had one the other day that broke the gate at 4-1 odds and won paying 9-5. It happens so much that i'm getting thoroughly disgusted.

What was the morning line on this horse? Many people take ML favorites and expect the odds NOT to drop.

NOW if this was a 20-1 ML horse who just ran last in 3 straight races, then you might be onto something.

I have a standing bet with my brother. I will gladly sit with him and write down the odds when they open the gate and compare them to close. I will gladly pay him for all the winners that dropped if he pays me for all the losers. Check it out sometime, you might be surprised.

[SignUpKing]

Have receive emails from Gordon Jones service.Selling $100 inside information picks,pump and dump service.

The service only uses Gordon's name, not his picks. But still . . .

[Fred]

NOTE: Throughbred Insiders only uses Gordon's name, not his picks. (I am a longtime friend of Gordon -- he knows how to beat the game.)

Why would someone let their name be used when they are not making the actual picks.



Freddy

[DanG]

Why would someone let their name be used when they are not making the actual picks.

Freddy
Their getting paid is a pretty good guess.

[Lefty]

Hey guys, you can contact Gordon at
vegastracktalk@yahoo.com
Let him know how you feel about this situation.

[SignUpKing]

Why would someone let their name be used when they are not making the actual picks.



Freddy

An income source without effort.

[silverfox]

If you play her pick on tv you will end up in poor house.Remember her in 70-80s she helped her dad .She was a great looker then,she must be close to 50 still,a nice looking women.

[Lefty]

silver, to be fair, if you play any of these tv pundits pks you will lose. I met Joanne in early 80's. She was 16. She just had a baby about a yr ago. The father is Clinton Potts the jockey.

[LARRY GEORGE]

i just seen gordon jones over at fairplex he was some tv picks with joann

[SignUpKing]

silver, to be fair, if you play any of these tv pundits pks you will lose. I met Joanne in early 80's. She was 16. She just had a baby about a yr ago. The father is Clinton Potts the jockey.

In their defense, who can win having to pick a horse every single race?

Gordon Jones wins. So does Joanne Jones, when she can solely focus on betting.

I know them both well.

[silverfox]

Received letter from tout Gordon inside information For $100.

[silverfox]

Answer no.

[GaryG]

Answer no.What do you base your answer/opinion on?

[Lefty]

silver, Gordon is a topnotch handicapper that sells his picks, but i blve those picks from Inside info are not his but they use his name. I have known him since 82

[Dr Win]

I am looking for:

How to Profit From Pars by GordonPine

anyone have idea
where-how to find??

thank you

[Maxspa]

Dr. Win,
You might try Gordon Pine's website at www.netcapper.com. If they don't have what you are looking for, you can contact him personally by email. He's a great guy and will be very helpful!
Maxspa

[Dr Win]

thank you

[Sailwolf]

How did this thread go from Gordon Jones to Gordon Pine?:eek:

[David-LV]

Gordon Jones is the number one handicapper in the world when handicapping short price horses. He really has talent second to none for seperating the good favorites from the bad favorites. :jump:

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David

[David-LV]

Sams Town on Wed. Oct. 17 opened a brand new ultra modern race & sports book.
There are high definition tv's at each seat. They have two giant screens plus fifteen 104" plasma tv's plus another 25 or so smaller plasma. A great snack bar.

This is one beautiful race & sportsbook that must be seen.

On the first day that the room was opened Gordon put in a pick 5 group ticket at Santa Anita. The results were an opening day special because Gordon hit the $29,360 pick 5. Each $20 dollar bill received back $480. :jump:

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David

[Kelso]

There are high definition tv's at each seat. They have two giant screens plus fifteen 104" plasma tv's plus another 25 or so smaller plasma. A great snack bar.


Never been to a sports book ... or to an OTB, for that matter. Is cheering considered poor form, or is there continuous noise with so many events on so many screens?

Thank you.

[Maxspa]

All,
I'm glad to hear that Sam's Town has reinvested some of their profits into a new Sports Book . Imho it was long overdue!
However, Gordon Jones is responsible, in no small part, for this huge upgrade! Without his winning seminars a new sports book would not have even been on the agenda.
Maxspa

[DanG]

All,
I'm glad to hear that Sam's Town has reinvested some of their profits into a new Sports Book . Imho it was long overdue!
However, Gordon Jones is responsible, in no small part, for this huge upgrade! Without his winning seminars a new sports book would not have even been on the agenda.
Maxspa
When I lived there you literally needed a gas mask to go in Sam’s Town. For whatever reason everyone had at least 4 smokes’s ignited at the same time!!! (That’s no exaggeration) :eek: :eek:

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/cgo0023l.jpg

[Lefty]

Max, couldn't agree more. Gordon has a huge following.

Kelso, i find most of the loudest cheering is usually done by the favorite players.

[David-LV]

Gordon Jones long time top handicapper, radio personality, & writer has won the Orleans Qualifier and the $12,425 plus a spot in the Horse Players World Series on Thurday, November 29th.

Congratulation. http://www.homebased2.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

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David

[GaryG]

Gordon Jones long time top handicapper, radio personality, & writer has won the Orleans Qualifier and the $12,425 plus a spot in the Horse Players World Series on Thurday, November 29th.

Congratulation. http://www.homebased2.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

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DavidCouldn't happen to a more deserving guy....:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

[Maxspa]

All,
After all these years, he has never lost the thrill one gets from winning a horse race!
I watched him a few times at Sam's Town and he truly loves the handicapping challenge.
Maxspa

[Tom]

Great news - Gordon is a nice guy - glad he is getting rewarded for all his work. :ThmbUp::jump:

[Lefty]

The old man just keeps on going. What's truly amazing is that he does all of his work by hand, spends hrs at it and never seems to experience any burnout.
Congrats Prof.

[Tom Barrister]

The racebook end of things is generally noisiest when SoCal is running. Most of the cheering happens, of course, in the last 30 seconds of the race.

If you want noisy, go into the sportsbook whenver an NFL game is being played. Every play is cheered and applauded by somebody, and it's usually the favorite and over parlayers who do the most cheering.

[banacek]

The old man just keeps on going. What's truly amazing is that he does all of his work by hand, spends hrs at it and never seems to experience any burnout.
Congrats Prof.

Agreed. I sure hope he finishes those books someday!

[GaryG]

If you want noisy, go into the sportsbook whenver an NFL game is being played. Every play is cheered and applauded by somebody, and it's usually the favorite and over parlayers who do the most cheering.High fives and male bonding like no place else.....after every play

[judd]

is joanne his daughter on hrtv ??? :)

[BillW]

is joanne his daughter on hrtv ??? :)

Yes

[ranchwest]

If you play her pick on tv you will end up in poor house.Remember her in 70-80s she helped her dad .She was a great looker then,she must be close to 50 still,a nice looking women.

I find her insight to be pretty good. Of course, if my choice is her or one of the other TV "gurus", I'll choose her any day. Easy on the eyes.

[keenang]

The first time I met him was in the 80's. He was the host for a tournament at the Union Plaza downtown. He was and still is the best host in for anything relating to handicapping.

Geno

P.S. In the Arlington Million one year he said there was only one horse that had a chance against John Henry . Sure enough that horse won and paid a BIG, BIG price and exacta. I did not have it. :blush:

[Donnie]

Anyone here ever read his money management book? I think it's called Smart Money The Art and Science of Money Management at the Track.

[David-LV]

Next week Gordon will be shooting for the big one in Coast's Horse Player World Series.

Good luck to all the qualifiers.:) :)

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David