simulcast manners

[1st time lasix]

Why do so many horseplayers feel that it is OK to scream at the tv monitors....tell everyone within a hundred feet of them what they are playing....and curse loudly when they lose????? It is as if they can change the outcome based on how obnoxious they act. I am not saying that a venue should be a library....but how about some common decency!

[Dave Schwartz]

Lasix,

Personally, I find that it adds to the flavor of racing. I have been known to get a little excited myself with a big hit in the stretch run.

What always used to drive me nuts (and I think this is what you're talking about) are they guys that scream in every race, whether they've got a live horse or not.

When their horse is on the lead they are jabbering about how smart they are. When their horse is no where to be found they are screaming about how the jockey sold himself like a cow.

That, combined with the foul language and cigarette smoke keeps me at home.


Regards,
Dave Schwartz

[46zilzal]

I love to shout:"They can't hear you!"

[boomman]

Lasix: Although I agreed with you totally on a different thread about being even keeled emotionally if you wanted to be a professional player, I remember the TV ad when the NTRA first came into play saying" If you're going to yell and scream, we're going to have to ask you to stay"! Although I wasn't too hip on the "Go Baby Go" ad campaign, I thought the "stay" ad was quite catchy and appropriate. Even though I don't go to simulcast theaters (as the home computer is just WAY too convenient) I often catch myself yelling at the monitor in the privacy of my own home! It's fun and exciting. The flip side of course, is some guy yelling for a horse that wins and then can't show you a winning ticket on it (just yelling to show-off) or a guy cussing and being obnoxious, that's where I draw the line. I was at the Aladdin in Vegas for the Breeder's Cup, and because of the silly all-the-same saddle cloth rule, folks didn't know where there horses were, so they stopped screaming trying to hear Trevor. Unfortunately, he didn't know "who was who" in a few cases either, lol. But when the screaming and excitement stopped, I found myself missing it! Boom

[KirisClown]

I have no problem with the screaming and yelling, it sort of adds to the excitement level...

The only thing I have a problem with at OTB is the odor... some of that money being used to bet would be better invested in a bar of soap.

[Indulto]

Why do so many horseplayers feel that it is OK to scream at the tv monitors....
... I am not saying that a venue should be a library....but how about some common decency!1st time lasix,
You must still be waiting for your 1st time longshot. :lol:

As an on-track bettor myself, I suggest 1st time earplugs. :D

When was the last time decency was common anywhere? I'm still hoping breeders will restore common recency. ;)

Seriously, I've always felt the audio should be broadcast simultaneously for local pickup on pocket radios or cell phones with earpieces. Trakus helps somewhat, but from KEE it appeared to include too much info as to be intrusive live. Great for replays though.

[Stevie Belmont]

How about when you are in a teletheatre and the monkey brain next to you has his TV on full blast? How is that for decency?

[Sly7449]

Greetings,

Many years ago, I decided that General Admission was not the place to be.

Long lines.

People handicapping in Line and even at the Window

Countless folks (buddies) cutting the line to give their bets to a buddy in line.

Folks (strangers) always bothering me about who I like.

Can I get a Cigarette.

Let me hold a buck.

Lets' go half with this bet.

AND THE YELLING :bang: .

I paid the little extra to go to the Club House, where, OHHHH, it was sooo tranquil. :jump: :jump: :jump:

That's the place to be.

L8R

Sly

[Indulto]

How about when you are in a teletheatre and the monkey brain next to you has his TV on full blast? How is that for decency?I guess that would be common indecency, like neighbors playing stereo with volume and bass on full at all hours, and why even home viewing has its drawbacks. I find it less offensive when I'm winning.

[dylbert]

Our simulcast site closed in August. I don't miss the yelling, I don't miss the smoke. I do miss the convenience (1 hour plus to next betting parlor). And, I do miss chatting with more friendly players. I'm 50 year old and sometimes I was among youngest players. I liked hearing angles from older gentlemen.

Back to yelling... I had to restrain myself from laughing at most of these morons! Some would start yelling as horse broke from the gate... That might work for quarter horses, but it is downright silly at 10 furlongs! LOL!

And, of course, my favorite yeller is little old lady who has $2 show on the chalk that get's up on last jump to beat (win) against my 12-to-1 shot... YIKES!!!

My grandmother who passed away last Christmas Eve was dedicated show bettor -- but, she was killer at hitting just-short-of-signer daily double! She "corrupted" me as 14 year old betting on greyhounds in West Memphis. Nothing like barbeque, dog races and hot Krispy Kreme doughnuts after midnight... She taught to appreciate these finer things in life!

[DeoVolente]

How about when you are in a teletheatre and the monkey brain next to you has his TV on full blast? How is that for decency?

That's a big problem in the rooms at the Meadowlands and when you complain to their personnel they tell you they can't do anything.

[sjk]

I watch the races at home almost all of the time. I think yelling at the horses is an important part of enjoying the races. If you have seen enough races over the years you have a pretty good idea of your chances when they hit the 3/16 pole and you should be able to enjoy yelling at them.

Cashing the tickets is great but yelling at the horses makes it better.

[gillenr]

Since I bring a plug-in headset, I try to teach manners thusly:
"please turn it down, it is bothering me"
When that doesn't work, I reach over & turn their set off - it helps I'm 6'3' 275#.

[Tee]

Yell all ya want, just don't yell for half the field, holler I've got it & then not have a winning ticket. :lol:

There's a real life person behind that story, like you guys couldn't tell. ;)

There's also another individual attached to the above person who couldn't stand getting his horse "yelled" out of the money & then having the "yeller" not have the winning ticket.

I could never figure out how those horses thousands of miles away could hear us. That tidbit of knowledge doesn't stop me from a little vocal exuberance though. :)

My favorite has to be the guy that is 100% sure the jocks are stiffing the horses, the trainers are as well, everything is rigged. Yet he is at the track day after day after day.

He makes his selections and wagers off of a sheet of entries & really doesn't know how to read the pp's.

I ran into him Sunday, it was the highlight of my week. :mad:

[Tee]

One that does get under my skin a bit.

The guys that roots for your horse to be disqualified when the inquiry goes up & he has no interest in the race.

The joys of being out with the betting public.

People wonder where I have been when I've set foot in the local otb only a handful of times in the past year.

[cj]

My favorite has to be the guy that is 100% sure the jocks are stiffing the horses, the trainers are as well, everything is rigged. Yet he is at the track day after day after day.

He makes his selections and wagers off of a sheet of entries & really doesn't know how to read the pp's.

I ran into him Sunday, it was the highlight of my week. :mad:

How is Adam doing?

[Tee]

How is Adam doing?

He probably misses you more than you will ever know!! :lol:

I haven't seen Adam in forever, don't know if he is even around. There were a couple guys I saw Sunday that I hadn't seen in some time that the world isn't treating very well. Was somewhat depressing to witness.

So you ready for a trip back to the new & improved Cheyenne Off Track Betting? :D

I'll come and see you when you get back to the states. Perhaps organize a trip to Saratoga, if the golf game totally goes in the crapper. :)

[Smiley]

I agree with the OP. My husband and I would got to a Casino to watch our horse race on tv if he was racing too far away to travel or it wasn't on TVG.

He would be horrified at the men cursing and swearing loudly at the screens. They don't care too much that they are in the presence of ladies. I guess maybe I'm old fashion but a man shouldn't curse in front of a woman- not like that anyway!!

It got so bad that I had to decide between being wicked uncomfortable or getting to watch my horse.

Even worse, some views started saying mean things about my gelding (of course, not knowing we were the owners) I was like, "Hey, I love this horse..he is my baby so lay off"!! Gees! :-0

[rastajenk]

I'd rather have people yelling and getting in to it than to have them stoically sit there and express no interest.

However, there is one type that is all too common that I would do without, and that's the type that wishes a bad fate for the leading horses when they're not his. You know: "Break a leg you sumbeech! Fall down, gaddummit!" Not enough to just run out of gas and back up, they need something catastrophic to help them win their bets. Usually the same ones implore the jocks to whip their own choices harder and harder - "Get the whip out, man! Beat him! Beat on him, NOW!" Those kinds are ugly to witness and usually leave any newbies present wondering if they've made the proper entertainment choice.

[Valuist]

I always thought "Go Baby Go" was such a ridiculous phrase. If they wanted to make it realistic, it would be "Cmon you f-ing eight....."

[Binder]

I just got very tired of
the type that see me with a laptop
they come around and ask "who do you like at Philly"

I guess I will bet the 3 at 6/1 and the 4 at 5/2

the race goes off and the 3 wins and pays $14.00
the guy gets mad screams at the TV and makes me feel bad
why ?? I bet the 4 only or worse they both lose
They hardly ever come out and blame me but the way they carry
on like they just lost there life savings really hurts my feelings

Even when they win you migth get a offer for a coffee
or soda but not always and if anything they will come around
again until they lose

Now either I stay home and bet online or constantly move around to be off
alone at the simo center
Doc Sartin warned me about "friends" a very long time ago
I never listened to him till It hurt me
GS
Bill

[1st time lasix]

[QUOTE=Binder]I just got very tired of
the type that see me with a laptop
they come around and ask "who do you like at Philly"


Now either I stay home and bet online or constantly move around to be off
alone at the simo center
Doc Sartin warned me about "friends" a very long time ago

I can't wager from home so I am forced to go to an upstairs clubhouse of a local dog track in order to play the game. I tend to sit at the end of the bar because I really like the service and friendship of the bartender there. I also have a special lamp that allows me enough quality light to read pp's without losing my eyesight. As a regular and fairly sucessful player I am constantly asked "Who you do you like?" "Who is it at Keeneland or Churchill?" "I am down to my last twenty $....so let's split your bet!" etc. Now I don't mind offering a friendly idea..... but it is generally the wrong question....it should be: who is the overlay or who is at higher odds than they should be and how are you structuring your play? Maybe the question should be....is this favorite vulnerable? They don't really get it. Is there anything worse than having someone then comeback as your 6-1 play finished second only to have some clown slur "nice pick' in a sarcastic tone! Of course I don't mind people being enthusiatic....it is the low life jerks who think they are the only ones that matter. They tend to shout across the room and use language not fit for a public place. Shouting at a tv "drop dead" or "break a leg" directed to a horse on the lead just irritates me to no end.

[Tom]

Binder....last time I went to and OTB with my laptop, this guy comes over and says,"What's that ya got there, a computer?"

"No," I said,"It's a piano. I'm Stevie Wonder!" At which point I start "playing" the keyboards and moving my head around in circles, eyes closed. like the real Stevie. "I don't know wehre my speakers went, haven't seen them all day!"

At which point he teaches me some new words and even some sign language!:eek::lol:

[saratoga guy]

I don't mind a little excitement and enthusiasm -- the poroblem is, some folks don't have any inner voice keeping them to polite limits.

A little yelling is OK -- just not in my friggin' ear!

And don't come up during the running of the race and nudge me while yelling, "Do you believe that ride?!?"

"Uh, fella, I didn't bet your horse, and I'd kinda like to concentrate on mine!"

[pressman]

Im a screamer Its entertnainment Its hard not to get excited about your horse LIVE A LITTLE

[Dave Schwartz]

Years ago I developed a system for dealing with the "who-do-you-like?" guys. A simple answer:

"I like the favorite."

If pressed, "I always bet the favorite."

Trust me... they will leave you alone.


Then, when they see you screaming your lungs out on a $40 horse, they know you simply will not provide them with answers... and they will continue to leave you alone.


Dave

[BlueShoe]

At many otb sites that have individual terminals the major problem for myself is the noise between races.I can tolerate the nitwits behaving like jackasses for the 1 minute and 10 seconds or 1 minute and 43 seconds of a race,but it goes beyond that.At the facility that I usually attend we have the ones that keep the volume on their set cranked up as loud as possible at all times.They insist on hearing the pre race chatter from TVG or the local feed and make sure that everyone else hears it also.Since the regular channels are fed in,we also have the sports fans that turn up the noise on the baseball/football/basketball game that they want to watch.We have one guy that watches "raslin,and another that likes I Love Lucy reruns.Then there are the cell phones.Oh how I wish that they would be banned as they are in Nevada race/sports books.Have guys that take off from work to play the horses-and then spend all their time taking and making calls about work on their cells.Yours truly is way too old to be getting in brawls,but on more than one occasion have come very close to lowering the boom on some anal person after asking them politely to please turn down the volume and getting profanity or some other hostile response.

[Indulto]

I can't wager from home so I am forced to go to an upstairs clubhouse of a local dog track in order to play the game. I tend to sit at the end of the bar because I really like the service and friendship of the bartender there. I also have a special lamp that allows me enough quality light to read pp's without losing my eyesight. As a regular and fairly sucessful player I am constantly asked "Who you do you like?"
I don’t bet at home because if I did 1) I WOULD start sitting around and betting in my shorts (and my wife would leave) and 2) I would soon develop a case of the shorts betting on short fields (and then I’D never be able to leave). :D

Since going to the track motivates me to leave the house, it enables my wife and I to practice non-mutual and mutuel perversions separately. Indeed she would be delighted to be rid of me on weekdays as well, but sitting on the 405 freeway during rush hour to get home from HOL is no incentive unless I could drive that non-short distance in my shorts, or else be accompanied by an attractive horseplayer of the opposite sex allowing me to use the diamond lane for the engagement. :lol:

So I practice abstention until the weekends to preserve both bankroll and enthusiasm. While the $3 difference between grandstand and clubhouse at HOL is the biggest bargain on the West side of Los Angeles, the grandstand is preferable during live racing for those of us who still get a kick out of watching the horses in the paddock from a different perspective than P-Val. When racing isn't live, the clubhouse is much more well lit and marginally quieter.

In more than 40 years of going to the track, the phrase “Who do you like” is still music to my ears. More often than not it leads to a pleasurable exchange of opinions, frequently resulting in either solidifying my selection in my own mind or alerting me to something I overlooked. And sometimes I even make a new acquaintance.

The roar of the crowd generally drowns out obnoxious individuals when watching live racing outdoors. It IS aggravating not to be able to hear the race calls during simulcasts, but it was amazingly quiet on Breeder’s Cup day because nobody could tell what their horse was doing without the announcer (and sometimes not even then).

Obviously, it’s easier to stand FOR something than NEAR it, but ask yourselves one question: “Whose money would I win – and when – without all those looking for luck in all the wrong places. ;)

[Stevie Belmont]

Some of the OTB's in New York are nothing more than hangouts for the homeless and depraved. Cramped and smelly with zero amenities for the customer. Bathrooms are a disgrace. it's hard to believe that these places are even permitted to operate under these deplorable conditions. Ive been to few when in the city.

It's these facilities that give racing a black eye.

The one I think on 38th street is not bad if you pay the 5 bucks to go upstairs. And you get track prices.

The Playwright downtown is a very nice OTB/Pub where one can get a drink and a meal and watch the races on nice flat panels. Also have a nice lively nightclub downstairs

[Stevie Belmont]

Couple of pics from inside the Playwright
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/SooperMan/playwright-1.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/SooperMan/playwright.jpg

[1st time lasix]

The local dog track facility I must go to for wagering puposes is a real dump....owned by a third generation of a family that really doesn't care. Recently the county gave them permission to play cards at limited stakes so they surprisingly just spent some money on a new poker room that opened to a standing room crowd. That gives the real horse players {who really are the patrons that have kept the place alive} hope that they will eventually redo the clubhouse. There isn't one TV screen in the clubhouse that was built after 1990 and they don't even have enough of them to cover the tracks we can play! The tote machines are generally broken and the inside ceiling is stained from roof leaks. The lighting is pretty dim and the bathrooms are disgusting. You can just imagine what it is like downstairs on the first floor. One of the tellers was murdered last month in the parking lot by some crack bum. It seems to me that there ought to be a place that you wouldn't mind bringing a date/wife. I am jealous of you guys that enjoy turf clubs/teletheathers/ casino books at the nice facilities. After a Saturday afternoon here....I feel like I need a shower.