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ljb
10-21-2006, 02:10 PM
Well guys you all remember the last election when the talking heads on Faux would respond to a market drop with "they are afraid Kerry is going to win."
Now it seems the story has changed. As this link shows...
http://www.newshounds.us/2006/10/21/new_fox_line_wall_street_wants_dems_to_win.php#mor e

Secretariat
10-21-2006, 02:14 PM
Well guys you all remember the last election when the talking heads on Faux would respond to a market drop with "they are afraid Kerry is going to win."
Now it seems the story has changed. As this link shows...
http://www.newshounds.us/2006/10/21/new_fox_line_wall_street_wants_dems_to_win.php#mor e

Funny, but Sad.

46zilzal
10-21-2006, 02:18 PM
watching good old Gordon Gecko (a great NASTY character) in Wall Street as he explains to Charlie Sheen after his company tries to take over his (Sheen's) father's airline, gut it, force it to default in bankruptcy so he gets all the money: "You think you live in a democracy pal? The top one percent in wealth CONTROL this country. Wake up."

DJofSD
10-21-2006, 06:32 PM
Fox (faux), NBC, CBS, ABC, whatever, know cr*p about the market or how it works. They can barely report the salient information pertaining to the market activities from day to day.

Do you really think they understand how the market works? How many reports and editors have even taken an economics class?

The market just doesn't want anything to change -- they like the status quo. No changes to the military/industrial complex -- they like all the contracts and money rolling in and with the prospect of 'forever war' the largess will continue. No change to the 1996 Telecommunication Act -- let the monoply of the various segments continue. Let the M&A in the telecommunications sector continue.

46zilzal
10-21-2006, 06:41 PM
The market just doesn't want anything to change -- they like the status quo. No changes to the military/industrial complex -- they like all the contracts and money rolling in and with the prospect of 'forever war' the largess will continue. No change to the 1996 Telecommunication Act -- let the monoply of the various segments continue. Let the M&A in the telecommunications sector continue.

let the fat cats get fatter and control governement to a greater degree? sure

PlanB
10-21-2006, 06:48 PM
I do NOT agree. Wall St --- not the generic use of that term, but rather
downtown NYC --- is preparing for total new markets. ex: MOVIE PRODUCTION.
#2 ex: GENE Manipulation. We're talking many Billions here. Many. These
areas are outside politics mostly.

twindouble
10-21-2006, 07:10 PM
Fox (faux), NBC, CBS, ABC, whatever, know cr*p about the market or how it works. They can barely report the salient information pertaining to the market activities from day to day.

Do you really think they understand how the market works? How many reports and editors have even taken an economics class?

The market just doesn't want anything to change -- they like the status quo. No changes to the military/industrial complex -- they like all the contracts and money rolling in and with the prospect of 'forever war' the largess will continue. No change to the 1996 Telecommunication Act -- let the monoply of the various segments continue. Let the M&A in the telecommunications sector continue.

The incumbent politicians throw us nothing but bull shit to get our votes, then they go back into their offices, lock the door and masturbate over what's "really" going on and what they have in mind to do. Anyone new to Washington ends up doing the same thing or that was their plan to begin with. That's the only way they get support form their party, $$$$$$$$, you owe me. Economics to them is simple, fill my pockets with money including friends, family and all the pork I can get.

ljb
10-21-2006, 07:44 PM
Are you guys suggesting that faux was bullsh----ing us again ?

DJofSD
10-21-2006, 08:15 PM
total new markets. ex: MOVIE PRODUCTION.

Traditional movie making and production and distribution is doomed. It's slowly going the way of the music industry.

kenwoodallpromos
10-22-2006, 11:45 AM
Just like MSNBC, Newshounds is a Fox wannabe/willneverbe, so they survive by mentioning Fox hundreds of time. They and MSNBC need to get a life.

Lefty
10-22-2006, 11:55 AM
Well guys you all remember the last election when the talking heads on Faux would respond to a market drop with "they are afraid Kerry is going to win."
Now it seems the story has changed. As this link shows...
http://www.newshounds.us/2006/10/21/new_fox_line_wall_street_wants_dems_to_win.php#mor e
Please note the whole panel was not agreed on this and the writer of the article accused Fox of propaganda while she put her own political bias into the article. Evidently the writer believes terrorists should have rights and was against the wall to keep illegals out. She said it would also keep us in. Is she nuts? Are there a lot of us sneaking into Mexico?

Tom
10-22-2006, 12:24 PM
Please note the whole panel was not agreed on this and the writer of the article accused Fox of propaganda while she put her own political bias into the article. Evidently the writer believes terrorists should have rights and was against the wall to keep illegals out. She said it would also keep us in. Is she nuts? Are there a lot of us sneaking into Mexico?


If dems win, there will be a lot of us sneaking in! :eek:

But anyone want to bet on the wall?

>2,000 mile border
>700 mile fence
>Funding for 350 miles of it
>In the hands of Chertoff, to be issued as he sees fit.

It is not a wall, it is a bone. "
"Roll over, sit. Good citizen, good citizen."

46zilzal
10-22-2006, 01:27 PM
first race at Belmont as the big favorite.
1st race - Belmont Park - October 22, 2006
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
4 Democrat 3.60 2.70 2.30
9 Ready Read 7.80 5.20
7 Killer Speed 4.20

$2 Exacta 4-9 34.00
$2 Trifecta 4-9-7 145.00

kenwoodallpromos
10-22-2006, 02:20 PM
first race at Belmont as the big favorite.
1st race - Belmont Park - October 22, 2006
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
4 Democrat 3.60 2.70 2.30
9 Ready Read 7.80 5.20
7 Killer Speed 4.20

$2 Exacta 4-9 34.00
$2 Trifecta 4-9-7 145.00
_______________
Sounds like most Demo Presidents- "Never won 2 races" LOL!!

46zilzal
10-22-2006, 02:22 PM
the record is held by FDR winner of 4.

Tom
10-22-2006, 04:18 PM
_______________
Sounds like most Demo Presidents- "Never won 2 races" LOL!!

:lol::ThmbUp:

DJofSD
10-22-2006, 04:34 PM
the record is held by FDR winner of 4.

Yes. And here's another historical fact: George Washington was the first president of the United States.

46zilzal
10-22-2006, 04:48 PM
Yes. And here's another historical fact: George Washington was the first president of the United States.
I used to think that too, but it was some guy named Samuel Huntington when the U.S. was under the Articles of Confederation.

Tom
10-22-2006, 05:56 PM
FDR....4 terms.
After 4 terms by a Dem, we said ENOUGH and passed an ammendment!

BTW, Compare the social, financial, and world events of FDR's presidency to that of Bush II. We stayed the course, didn't we? Looked bleak at times, didn't it? Most people couldn't even afford a rutabega.

bigmack
10-22-2006, 05:59 PM
I used to think that too, but it was some guy named Samuel Huntington when the U.S. was under the Articles of Confederation.
That sickly fellow was better suited as Gov of CT, and he was President of the Assembled Congress. If you want to count all those earlier "Preses" Washington would be the 11th. But like the good students we are we recognize Georgie as the 1st.

46zilzal
10-22-2006, 06:17 PM
FDR....4 terms.
After 4 terms by a Dem, we said ENOUGH and passed an ammendment!


by just about ALL historian's estimates, FDR was one of the greatest presidents the country ever had. He got things done but when he over-stepped his boundaries, the supreme court shut his programs down.

Tom
10-22-2006, 06:18 PM
Lots of Georgies on that list. First and current......no wonder 46 is trying to spin history...must be killing him!:lol:

46zilzal
10-22-2006, 06:28 PM
you might take all this seriously, but it is entertainment to me.

Lefty
10-22-2006, 06:38 PM
the record is held by FDR winner of 4.
Then he was instrumental in the law limiting the pres to 2 terms. It was okay for him but not everybody else. Typical...

ljb
10-22-2006, 07:10 PM
Then he was instrumental in the law limiting the pres to 2 terms. It was okay for him but not everybody else. Typical...
Lefty, Lefty, Lefty,
FDR was not to blame for limiting the pres to 2 terms. As any neocon knows it was Clinton's fault. :lol: :lol: :lol:

PlanB
10-22-2006, 07:34 PM
Lefty is an illusion, like a 25 year-old virgin. He's a HOAX. No one could
be that un-informed. Just sound bytes with no education. Just iggy him
in the best way: allow yourself 1 reply for his every 10 posts. He never
says that much anyway.

Lefty
10-22-2006, 08:04 PM
Lefty is an illusion, like a 25 year-old virgin. He's a HOAX. No one could
be that un-informed. Just sound bytes with no education. Just iggy him
in the best way: allow yourself 1 reply for his every 10 posts. He never
says that much anyway.
I'm uninformed? Yuk, yuk. I give you facts and you return b.s. Where am I uninformed? You'Re short on facts and long on insults. So, tell me, where am I uninformed?

twindouble
10-22-2006, 08:22 PM
I'm uninformed? Yuk, yuk. I give you facts and you return b.s. Where am I uninformed? You'Re short on facts and long on insults. So, tell me, where am I uninformed?

Lefty, ljb is like a bad rash, it feel good when you scratch it but the sucking think keeps coming back. You can apply all the common sense lotion, and down right burning truth and he'll still find a way to get under your skin. :D Hell, we would miss him if the rash cleared up. :lol:


T.D.

Tom
10-22-2006, 09:14 PM
I agree with IGGY for more than a few here. Just seeing the "____________ is on your ignore list" makes more sense than what they have posted.
But you guys keep quoting them and that beats my IGGY.:mad:

46zilzal
10-22-2006, 10:24 PM
rutabaga just tells 'em what they want to hear. Let's forget about that little thing that is a msierable failure!
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/22/bush.economy.ap/index.html

Lefty
10-22-2006, 10:30 PM
skunkcabbage, the economy is good(maybe not for socialists like you, but for capitalists it's good)but the miserable mainstream media in this country won't herald it(boy they did with Clinton though)so The Repubs better get the msg out. I know good news distresses you, but that's the way it is.

PaceAdvantage
10-22-2006, 11:11 PM
Lefty is an illusion, like a 25 year-old virgin. He's a HOAX. No one could
be that un-informed. Just sound bytes with no education. Just iggy him
in the best way: allow yourself 1 reply for his every 10 posts. He never
says that much anyway.

You're one to talk. 75% of the time I have not a clue what you are saying. Whatever brand of English you're using, they don't sell it where I live....

ljb
10-23-2006, 09:14 AM
skunkcabbage, the economy is good(maybe not for socialists like you, but for capitalists it's good)but the miserable mainstream media in this country won't herald it(boy they did with Clinton though)so The Repubs better get the msg out. I know good news distresses you, but that's the way it is.
Lefty,
Here is a quote regarding economic conditions in the U.S.
The United States has more people below the defined poverty line than 26 other countries; however, the measures used to establish a poverty line are controversial and may not always be comparable among countries. What is clear, however, is that the United States has the widest rich-poor gap of any high-income nation today, and that gap continues to grow.[2] The ten percent of Americans with the highest incomes earn 15 times more than the bottom ten percent.

The global economy has grown sevenfold since 1950. Meanwhile, the disparity in per capita gross domestic product between the 20 richest and 20 poorest nations more than doubled between 1960 and 1995.

Of all high-income nations, the United States has the most unequal distribution of income, with over 30 percent of income in the hands of the richest 10 percent and only 1.8 percent going to the poorest 10 percent.

Lefty
10-23-2006, 11:22 AM
Lefty,
Here is a quote regarding economic conditions in the U.S.
The United States has more people below the defined poverty line than 26 other countries; however, the measures used to establish a poverty line are controversial and may not always be comparable among countries. What is clear, however, is that the United States has the widest rich-poor gap of any high-income nation today, and that gap continues to grow.[2] The ten percent of Americans with the highest incomes earn 15 times more than the bottom ten percent.

The global economy has grown sevenfold since 1950. Meanwhile, the disparity in per capita gross domestic product between the 20 richest and 20 poorest nations more than doubled between 1960 and 1995.

Of all high-income nations, the United States has the most unequal distribution of income, with over 30 percent of income in the hands of the richest 10 percent and only 1.8 percent going to the poorest 10 percent.
lbj, yeah, there's an unequal distribution of the wealth. That's because some people access their opportunities and some do not and then expect help from those that do.
Poverty is how you define it. Is the homeless factored in? Have to be and i've seen enough homeless in the casinos in vegas to know a whole big bunch have chosen the life style and spend their money on gambling drugs, cigs, booze etc and then expect the rest of us to help them. There are a lot of people who live in so called poverty that have cars and tv's. We prob have the richest poor people in the world. Think about it.
When you say unequal distribution of wealth i ask you this. How is that changed?
The barometers that the mainstream press and everyone else used to point out how great the economy was during Clinton are now pooh poohed. Bias? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

JustRalph
10-23-2006, 02:09 PM
Lefty,
Here is a quote regarding economic conditions in the U.S.
The United States has more people below the defined poverty line than 26 other countries; however, the measures used to establish a poverty line are controversial and may not always be comparable among countries. What is clear, however, is that the United States has the widest rich-poor gap of any high-income nation today, and that gap continues to grow.[2] The ten percent of Americans with the highest incomes earn 15 times more than the bottom ten percent.

The global economy has grown sevenfold since 1950. Meanwhile, the disparity in per capita gross domestic product between the 20 richest and 20 poorest nations more than doubled between 1960 and 1995.

Of all high-income nations, the United States has the most unequal distribution of income, with over 30 percent of income in the hands of the richest 10 percent and only 1.8 percent going to the poorest 10 percent.

yeah, it's called Capitalism......... get over it.

ljb
10-23-2006, 02:52 PM
Lefty and JR,
You guys are overlooking some obvious facts here. Basically the policys and laws implemented by our gov't for the last 30 years have created an environment that causes the wealth of the nation to float up. We as middleclass Americans are suffering along with the lower class Americans. Until you realise that the top 1 percent of this country are taking from not only the poor but also the middleclass, you will probably continue to support your own downfall. Too bad.

Lefty
10-23-2006, 05:29 PM
Lefty and JR,
You guys are overlooking some obvious facts here. Basically the policys and laws implemented by our gov't for the last 30 years have created an environment that causes the wealth of the nation to float up. We as middleclass Americans are suffering along with the lower class Americans. Until you realise that the top 1 percent of this country are taking from not only the poor but also the middleclass, you will probably continue to support your own downfall. Too bad.
Socialist B.S. This country has more opportunity than any other. Do you realize there are more millionaires today than 10 yrs ago. Where did they come from? Obviously the middle and lower classes. They accessed their opportunities.

JustRalph
10-23-2006, 07:26 PM
Lefty and JR,
You guys are overlooking some obvious facts here. Basically the policys and laws implemented by our gov't for the last 30 years have created an environment that causes the wealth of the nation to float up. We as middleclass Americans are suffering along with the lower class Americans. Until you realise that the top 1 percent of this country are taking from not only the poor but also the middleclass, you will probably continue to support your own downfall. Too bad.

The policies of this country over the last 40 years have condemned a whole group of people to sucking at the breast of the rest. It used to be called the War on Poverty. You took two generations and taught them that the only way to get by was by relying on Government. Now it is culturally ingrained. Damn shame.......

Tom
10-23-2006, 07:30 PM
Still, NAFTA and CAFTA were direct shots fired on the middle class by ingmorant presidents who care not on ioat about us. NAFTA has not helped our economy or people in the least. And Bush's guest worker program is the thrid stage of mental illness. Our economy is BETTER, not ACCEPTABLE.

PlanB
10-23-2006, 07:53 PM
Tom how expressive you are. You're aces, Tom, unconcerned with grammar,
spelling, for sure, and to HELL with logic, it only gets in the way mostly.

ljb
10-23-2006, 07:57 PM
Socialist B.S. This country has more opportunity than any other. Do you realize there are more millionaires today than 10 yrs ago. Where did they come from? Obviously the middle and lower classes. They accessed their opportunities.
There are more new folks living in poverty then their are new millionaires. Where did they come from ? Obviously the middle and lower classes.

PaceAdvantage
10-23-2006, 08:01 PM
Funny, the Barron's article comes out over the weekend predicting GOP retaining control of Congress and perhaps the Senate, and the Markets respond rather positively Monday morning.....

ljb
10-23-2006, 08:03 PM
The policies of this country over the last 40 years have condemned a whole group of people to sucking at the breast of the rest. It used to be called the War on Poverty. You took two generations and taught them that the only way to get by was by relying on Government. Now it is culturally ingrained. Damn shame.......
See JR, You are believing the line promoted by the corporate giants. Very few folks want to suck on the gov't teat. Most just want a fair chance to provide for themselves and their familys. Speaking of relying on Government how much do you suppose the defense contractors have got from the gov't since the neocons gained control ?
Defense contractors like say Halliburton (Cheney).
Corporations and big money are screwing the middleclass and those living in poverty, it will come to your door also. Hopefully you will be able to recognise it before it is too late.

PlanB
10-23-2006, 08:03 PM
LOL. Lefty's not real, in any evolutionary sense, he's a BOT, programmed
to contradict, and "he's" the Right's Model #102, Bush himself being #100.
Only Condi (#105) and Madonna (#106) are more advanced. Condi plays
the piano & Madonna adopts refugees.

Lefty
10-23-2006, 08:22 PM
LOL. Lefty's not real, in any evolutionary sense, he's a BOT, programmed
to contradict, and "he's" the Right's Model #102, Bush himself being #100.
Only Condi (#105) and Madonna (#106) are more advanced. Condi plays
the piano & Madonna adopts refugees.
hey planb aka derek, but I say very real things, quite unlike you.

Lefty
10-23-2006, 08:30 PM
There are more new folks living in poverty then their are new millionaires. Where did they come from ? Obviously the middle and lower classes.
Wrongo again. A lot of the so-called poverty striken or the ones that feel you and i owe them something and find it unneccesary to get off their lazy asses and get educated and go to work and save and work for a brighter future. Some do, mostly, I think,they are the children finding themselves born into such a mess aspire to higher goals. Most who are in the middle class do not let themselves wallow in poverty.
A while back there was a homeless man on tv saying "you people are not doing enough for us" He looked able bodied and in his thirties or forties. Why the hell should i do anything for him? Let him get off his lazy ass and do for himself.

Tom
10-23-2006, 08:40 PM
Originally Posted by ljb
There are more new folks living in poverty then their are new millionaires. Where did they come from ? Obviously the middle and lower classes.

MEXICO

PlanB
10-23-2006, 08:42 PM
Lefty is routinely outside the thread. PA, move Lefty's typos to the Obama
4 PreZ section. Lefty, not to get too personal, but are you Black? It's
just a feeling, nothing too serious I hope.

Lefty
10-23-2006, 08:47 PM
Lefty is routinely outside the thread. PA, move Lefty's typos to the Obama
4 PreZ section. Lefty, not to get too personal, but are you Black? It's
just a feeling, nothing too serious I hope.
Nope, but I do live in a predominately black and hispanic neighborhood. But if I were, what's it have to do with anything? And you have the temerity to say i'm outside the thread?

DJofSD
10-23-2006, 08:51 PM
The United States has more people below the defined poverty line than 26 other countries; however, the measures used to establish a poverty line are controversial and may not always be comparable among countries. What is clear, however, is that the United States has the widest rich-poor gap of any high-income nation today, and that gap continues to grow.[2] The ten percent of Americans with the highest incomes earn 15 times more than the bottom ten percent.

The global economy has grown sevenfold since 1950. Meanwhile, the disparity in per capita gross domestic product between the 20 richest and 20 poorest nations more than doubled between 1960 and 1995.

Of all high-income nations, the United States has the most unequal distribution of income, with over 30 percent of income in the hands of the richest 10 percent and only 1.8 percent going to the poorest 10 percent.

Behind all of the comparisons and the attempt at guilt is a hidden message. This message is in its essance a religous message. But yet this message comes from the political side that wants to eliminate religion when it gets in the way of their other agenda, the elimination or denial of God.

How ironic.

PlanB
10-23-2006, 08:55 PM
LOL, okay, Lefty, I apologize ( A P O L O G I Z E) ; chalk it up to my imagination
with YOU wearing low-hanging gold necklaces & an urban cap. Outside
Bellagio's spinning & spinning until you lost 2 fillings. hey, a guy's gotta imagine?
PS: LEFTY I'M JUST FUNNIN with you. When I come to Vegas in May, let's
meet & my treat.